First, Neil, I am not having any difficulty with my degree. Again, more ignorant assumptions. You are simply opinionated, that's it. I suggested doing a randomized, double blind prospective study and you reply with more opinions! You think you already know the answers without thoroughly and systematically researching a topic.

The people who post on here are very slanted and biased. Of course, they do not all agree with me. In fact, I don't think one person, including yourself, has replied to my original post regarding conducting a study that attempts to correlate pre-med education w/ physician competence. Instead, all I have read are replies that attempt to bash my school and justify the current status quo. Yours and others attitudes and beliefs seems to be that licensing boards are OK with licensing grads without a traditional 4 year, pre-med background so why question or test this accepted standard? Well, Neil and others, there is something called PROGRESS that you clearly fail to recognize. You spend too much time and energy attempting to defend your school. Stop! Simply post a lucid reply that addresses the topic instead of being so defensive! Can you guys from Charles University actually do that? Did they teach you anything about conducting research for the sake of progress at your school? Apparently not! But, then again, that's what you learn at a real 4 year undergraduate program who's focus is on education and progress as opposed to job training and board preparation. I am not too familiar with Charles U's curriculum. However, based on it's students replies in this forum, it is clear that it's education program is lacking in substance. I hope that the students from Charles U on this forum don't represent the cream-of-the-crop at Charles U. You are not representing your school in a positive manner. You are actually an embarrasement to Charles U faculty and administration. Please transform into scientific thinkers before practicing medicine. You are liable to hurt someone if you don't. Good luck.

IUHSMS4

Actually, iuhs guy, i think you are wrong.

It is very widely known that premed education has no correlation with physician competence. it, using the MCAT as a judge, only has a correlation to an ability to pass the USMLE, which also do not correlate with competence according to most. In fact, a great deal of influential people believe that a good MCAT and USMLE score only really indicates ones ability to successfully take a standardized test. While one does have to have a minimum level of knowledge to even be able to pass the exam in the first place, that minimum is usually much much lower than what would be considered a "competent physician" and does not take into account all of the other factors that play into true competence other than frank memorization ability.

I think that you should conduct your own study and let us know what you find. however, before you do that, you should actually talk to docs who have been practicing for many years and ask them what factors they think effect ones competence. You may be surprised where they rank pre-med education.

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I have been reading this thread with great interest. Can I just say that, I applied to various American Universities after I finished my "O Levels" / Ordinary Level / GCSEs, for those who do not know what this is, its the stage between 13 - 16 yrs of education, in my country anyway, as well as in the UK.
I was accepted at all the Universities I applied to including Hartford in Connecticut to start and undergrad, they even offered me $5000 scholarship.
Here in the UK, to get to Uni, you MUST complete your A Levels after your O Level / GCSE, which is 2 years, and pass with at least AAB.
Getting into Uni in America is too easy, and education is either slow / easy in comparison to UK.
I like Americans in general, but may i just say that i worked with Americans a lot and we used to get emails from american customers from our website asking if £50 [pounds] is the same as $50 [dollars], we got these All the time!!

woah... sounds very harsh... I can tell you that everyone is given a fair chance to enter whatever field they want. Trust me, there are processes in place to weed people out, who do not belong there. This "open door" policy is what I think you are referring to as "too easy". Trust me, you will get devoured eventually if you walk in anywhere with that attitude.

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ANYBODY UP FOR SOME SUSHI ?

As you all seem to understand, Iuhs has been incorrect on many occasions, why entertain him?

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