What are greenbook rotations?

[drfisher]

OK managed to find a copy for only $40 and its available online as well so won't actually have to buy it.

How do I arrange my own rotations though? I was under the impression it was possible to arrange your own rotations and you can get them for free.

Also when it comes to applying for residency, I want to apply for the least popular posts so that I can increase my chances of matching. How can I tell which ones are least popular?

[drfisher]

It is availabe online here in case anyone wants to know http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/2997.html

Can anyone answer my questions in my previous post for me? Feel free to PM me if you don't want the information to be public knowledge!

[The Republic]

My answer to the greenbook question can be obtained by clicking on the "greenbook" link in my signature.

[julestx]

Depending on your State, rotations are what is greenbook, not hospitals. A 'greenbook hospital' is too general for future licensure in certain States (such as Texas and Penn). Why buy the green book listings when you can look it all up on www.acgme.org/adspublic click on the listings by sponsor (on the left) and then choose your state and hospital from the drop down menus.

drfisher - There is a decent explanation for setting up your own rotations at: http://groups.msn.com/aucspousesclub-clinicalsciences - Good Luck.

[The Republic]

Originally Posted by julestx

Depending on your State, rotations are what is greenbook, not hospitals. A 'greenbook hospital' is too general for future licensure in certain States (such as Texas and Penn). Why buy the green book listings when you can look it all up on www.acgme.org/adspublic click on the listings by sponsor (on the left) and then choose your state and hospital from the drop down menus.

drfisher - There is a decent explanation for setting up your own rotations at: http://groups.msn.com/aucspousesclub-clinicalsciences - Good Luck.

Texas is strange. On one hand they say every rotation must be part of a greenbook residency, but on the other hand they accept Ross degrees to be valid in Texas without question, even though Ross has some rotations that are not green.

[ResearchingGuy]

Pretty much the same info (by the same organization) is available at the FREIDA website (just google FREIDA). You can find out about institution and medical school affiliation as well.

Best of Luck!

[ULTRON]

The green book keeps changing from year to year.

Originally Posted by studentMD

u cant download a copy of the greenbook.. its 1397 pages

u can buy it from ie amazon
its actual name is graduate medical education directory.. theres a new copy each yr..

or u can visit ur medical school library.. they should have a copy there..
and often times the hospital library will also have a copy..

[rangness]

why would a hospital have a clinical rotation for students if it was not greenbook? Who does that benifit? who does it hurt?

[Clinical Director]

a hospital may sponsor clinicals for students and/or graduates for many reasons: education, catering to other local teaching hospitals but not wanting to undergo the ATHA requirements, wanting to maintain its dedication to the commnity by having some teaching activity there, and last but not least, its staff physicians may want it. none the less, some of these rotations are quite amazing... i've seen inpatient rounds that beats the heck out of some of the better known teaching patient rounds. the other benefit may be that you won't always be treated as a third class medical student in a non-teaching hospital and get a lot of attention there. some teaching programs (i.e. surgery) a medical student (not even mentioning an IMS) is always standing around to watch, or at best 3rd to 5th assist.

anyways, the common trend is to go to teaching hospitals, but the AOA is now adapting some new ways of conducting clinicals for their students, i.e. utilizing the community base of attending physicians rather than just teaching hospitals... this, i believe, will be the trend of the future... lets see what happens.

dr. mizani

[swhealon]

Is there an up-to-date reference that shows the requirements of every state's licensing board vis requiring clerkships to be greenbook by specialty? Surely someone has compiled a current listing of each states requirements?