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Old 10-01-2007, 05:47 PM
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it is not at all appropriate to post other people's Pms without their express permission. though technically not against terms of use, it is very bad form. it also subjects you both to being held responsible for the content. ie any libel. i highly suggest you not post someone else's pms and CERTAINLY not scans of anything they sent you. you can easily be set up for big trouble. you are desperately unwise to be middle man.
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Old 10-01-2007, 06:07 PM
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it is not at all appropriate to post other people's Pms without their express permission. though technically not against terms of use, it is very bad form.
it also subjects you both to being held responsible for the content. ie any libel. i highly suggest you not post someone else's pms and CERTAINLY not scans of anything they sent you. you can easily be set up for big trouble. you are desperately unwise to be middle man.
However, I did not posted his pm till I receive permission from him. In his PM, it also stated that he is willing to do what ever to help. How is it libel when evilsax is only describing how he lost his money to some scam? I posted the pm because I believe that it will help others from losing money into these types of fraud again. You are right that I should not be the middleman because I feel like I could misprepresent evilsax's original message. If any of you is interested in evilsax's whole story, the best thing I recommend is for you to pm him.

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However, I did not posted his pm till I receive permission from him. In his PM, it also stated that he is willing to do what ever to help. How is it libel when evilsax is only describing how he lost his money to some scam? I posted the pm because I believe that it will help others from losing money into these types of fraud again. You are right that I should not be the middleman because I feel like I could misprepresent evilsax's original message. If any of you is interested in evilsax's whole story, the best thing I recommend is for you to pm him.
let this evil guy take care of it then, steph is right...it's not good to be the middle man on this one. if he wants to come forward post whatever, so be it and he will be responsible for that. i personally would not get involved.
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:11 PM
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let this evil guy take care of it then, steph is right...it's not good to be the middle man on this one. if he wants to come forward post whatever, so be it and he will be responsible for that. i personally would not get involved.
You should pm him for a scan of the check. That thing looks very legit.
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I'll be happy to. Last June some people from a company called "Alphatex Fabrics" -which is probably a fraudulent company-emailed me claiming they wanted to hire me to be a "payment officer." They said that they had a buisiness in the UK which did business with American companies who were their clients. The only problem they told me was that it takes too long in the UK to cash foreign checks-up to a month they claimed-so they would send me the checks of their clients. I was supposed to cash these checks in my bank, take out a 10% comission and wire the remainder to them at a location they gave me. I got a check in late June for $3,550 that had CMU written on the top-in other words it was a CMU check. It was signed by ***** *********. I did as Alphatex asked me and took out my commission and wired the remaining $3,200 to someone in Atlanta. This check then bounced so it was charged to my account. That's why I say I was ripped off for over $3,000. This is a scam that a lot of Americans have fallen for, there are many people like me who have lost $3,000, some have lost a lot more than I did for once the first one bounced I got out. As some other people have eluded to, Dateline MSNBC did an expose about these sorts of scams this year called "Nigerian 419 mail scams" though they aren't all Nigerians.
I emailed ***** Lewkoski himself and he claims to have nothing to do with it, but it's his signature on the front. I hope I 've made myself more clear East-West. I would urge you if you are attending CMU or anyone else who is to leave this school immediately and demand your money back. Mr. ********* will no doubt not want to do so but if everyone gets on him and also lets everyone know in your country he will be under a lot of pressure. As I said before there are two victims here-Americans like myself who fell for this scam and people who have paid up to $8,000 for one half semester-which is very expensive even if this were a real medical school by the way. Again I hope I have made myself more clear but please feel free to ask me whatever you like. Whatever I can do to maybe see if anyone can get their money back.

If you have any questions, you should just pm evilsax.

Looks like you got scammed. I would think it would be tough for you to prove that CMU and/or RL was involved.

I guess if you were to be involved in the cheque cashing business again, you should wait for the cheque to clear before forwarding the balance.
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:26 PM
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I don't understand

Has evilsax been banned from valuemd? Why didn't he just post what he had to say, as well as his scanned cheque (not that I'm recommending this) instead of dumping this in your lap?

I understand that you're trying to prevent others from falling for this, but it seems to me that evilsax would much prefer that you tell his story and let you run the risk of infractions/libel, instead of him facing the fire himself.

Why would you take this sort of risk for someone whose trustworthiness you've openly questioned?

Just my opinion.

(Rhetorical questions, btw)
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You should pm him for a scan of the check. That thing looks very legit.
nah, i'm good...i really have bigger things to worry about.

if he posts it on here, i'll take a look at it but i'm not going to go out of my way to get it.
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