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Old 09-11-2007, 05:21 PM
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What would be the legal team's reaction to that email?
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I am updating the information I get from the government of Curacao since everything else will be more of the same...speculation. Here is a copy and paste of an email I got from the office of Inspector-General in Curacao. His initial are R.d.R and carries the title of Inspector-general of Curacao. It was received this morning. Interesting it seems to be that CMU , per the letter of this email, jumped the gun and has been operating without a license. It strikes me that they also use , very loosely the term...."within a few days" which basically translates into at "godspeed" or "whenever we can" . Let's not rush into conclusions and accusations, I am just trying to be a mere objective spectator and critic here, reason why I am posting this. As I see it, as of this precise moment, they do not have a charter (we all know that) nor a license (some of us thought they had one, but no, they don't). If so, they should have not began operations and their marketing should have been postponed to, "opening soon" and not accept a dime until they got at least the license. My .02c of course. Feel free to disagree, after all thats the reason we are here for, isn't it?



"Greetings,

The C.M.U will receive a charter as soon as the island government of Curacao gives a license to operate in Curacao. They are in the process of obtaining one. Hopefully within a few days all the paper work will be finished.
When the CMU has these permits they can operate in the same way as all the other (off-shore) universities in the Netherlands Antilles.

Kindest regards,

********************
Inspector-General "
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you realize RL will come on here and say that yes, we know this but we are affiliated with CIU and for right now, their charter is good enough (even though the charter doesn't say they can grant doctor of medicine degrees)

then we're back to square one...this is never going to end.
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Old 09-11-2007, 05:27 PM
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funny...

Docpluc, it's funny because in my original email I specifically asked about the connection with CIU and asked this person if in fact CMU was authorized to operate under that charter to issue medical degrees and the person as you can see did not acknowledged it. As you say, back to square one, sort of because the government is saying CMU MUST get their own license and charter.(my interpretation)


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you realize RL will come on here and say that yes, we know this but we are affiliated with CIU and for right now, their charter is good enough (even though the charter doesn't say they can grant doctor of medicine degrees)

then we're back to square one...this is never going to end.
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Old 09-11-2007, 05:30 PM
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they shouldn't have any

they shouldn't have any negative reaction since anyone is entitle to make these inquiries directly with a governmental agency, especially when there is a curtain of speculation and mystery surrounding the whole issue.

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What would be the legal team's reaction to that email?
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Old 09-11-2007, 06:56 PM
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Lets be honest in here guys. I think it is time for us to stop beating a dead horse we all know the problems cmu have and wasting time on the issues over and over again serve absolutely no purpose at all.
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:41 PM
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Disagree

Studentdoctobe wrote It would help to actually relate all this to practising in the US though, since that is where lack of charter really matters

Why should we have to relate anything to practising in the US? Many many doctors practice outside the US. In fact most of the doctors in the world practice outside the US. The world does not exist only between Alaska and the Florida Keys. To practice any where in the whole wide world. one has to obtain a degree from a bone fide University (or even a bogus offshore school) that has been granted a charter to operate. This whether one wants to practice in the US or not!


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Lets be honest in here guys. I think it is time for us to stop beating a dead horse we all know the problems cmu have and wasting time on the issues over and over again serve absolutely no purpose at all.


I disagree. The anti CMU posts should not be regarded as “beating a dead horse”, nor “wasting time on the issues over and over again”. It does serve a very useful purpose.

There are a few not so very nice people trying to start schools, and have not been completely honest with students, parents, staff or their investors, and a lot of folk have been hurt, and some have lost homes and other valuable posessions.

In the last year alone I taught 11 students who are now suffering because they allowed themselves to be lured into one of these joke schools.

It is vitally important that prospective students and thier relatives be warned very clearly about bad medical schools, or schools that fail to follow established protocols. This nonsense must stop! We can help! We must help! And I am speaking from personal experience!



Many prospective students and thier relatives do not know the ropes like we do, we need to post until problem schools go away. The best time to do this is before they get thier charter. I believe that if a school is dishonest and deceitful to attempt to operate without a charter, that if it ever does get one it will operate worse!



Our parents did not tire of telling us the same thing over and over for our good. So too we must not fail in well doing by alerting the public about bad attempts at starting med schools.
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:04 PM
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Lets be honest in here guys. I think it is time for us to stop beating a dead horse we all know the problems cmu have and wasting time on the issues over and over again serve absolutely no purpose at all.
You do not have to comment and anyone is free to make their own comments.if you have nothing to comment about then read, if you dont want to read then don't come to vmd.stop whining all over.
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Studentdoctobe wrote It would help to actually relate all this to practising in the US though, since that is where lack of charter really matters

Why should we have to relate anything to practising in the US? Many many doctors practice outside the US. In fact most of the doctors in the world practice outside the US. The world does not exist only between Alaska and the Florida Keys. To practice any where in the whole wide world. one has to obtain a degree from a bone fide University (or even a bogus offshore school) that has been granted a charter to operate. This whether one wants to practice in the US or not!


eastern2western wrote

Lets be honest in here guys. I think it is time for us to stop beating a dead horse we all know the problems cmu have and wasting time on the issues over and over again serve absolutely no purpose at all.


I disagree. The anti CMU posts should not be regarded as “beating a dead horse”, nor “wasting time on the issues over and over again”. It does serve a very useful purpose.

There are a few not so very nice people trying to start schools, and have not been completely honest with students, parents, staff or their investors, and a lot of folk have been hurt, and some have lost homes and other valuable posessions.

In the last year alone I taught 11 students who are now suffering because they allowed themselves to be lured into one of these joke schools.

It is vitally important that prospective students and thier relatives be warned very clearly about bad medical schools, or schools that fail to follow established protocols. This nonsense must stop! We can help! We must help! And I am speaking from personal experience!



Many prospective students and thier relatives do not know the ropes like we do, we need to post until problem schools go away. The best time to do this is before they get thier charter. I believe that if a school is dishonest and deceitful to attempt to operate without a charter, that if it ever does get one it will operate worse!



Our parents did not tire of telling us the same thing over and over for our good. So too we must not fail in well doing by alerting the public about bad attempts at starting med schools.
Yes I agree on your points.new information can always be addressed when they come up.
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I am updating the information I get from the government of Curacao since everything else will be more of the same...speculation. Here is a copy and paste of an email I got from the office of Inspector-General in Curacao. His initial are R.d.R and carries the title of Inspector-general of Curacao. It was received this morning. Interesting it seems to be that CMU , per the letter of this email, jumped the gun and has been operating without a license. It strikes me that they also use , very loosely the term...."within a few days" which basically translates into at "godspeed" or "whenever we can" . Let's not rush into conclusions and accusations, I am just trying to be a mere objective spectator and critic here, reason why I am posting this. As I see it, as of this precise moment, they do not have a charter (we all know that) nor a license (some of us thought they had one, but no, they don't). If so, they should have not began operations and their marketing should have been postponed to, "opening soon" and not accept a dime until they got at least the license. My .02c of course. Feel free to disagree, after all thats the reason we are here for, isn't it?



"Greetings,

The C.M.U will receive a charter as soon as the island government of Curacao gives a license to operate in Curacao. They are in the process of obtaining one. Hopefully within a few days all the paper work will be finished.
When the CMU has these permits they can operate in the same way as all the other (off-shore) universities in the Netherlands Antilles.

Kindest regards,

********************
Inspector-General "
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So according to this they don't even have a license.incredible.
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:28 PM
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yes...

...according to the email from the Inspector-General they are awaiting for a license to operate in Curacao. I am as amazed as you are because I thought they had at least that a license and not the charter, turns out they don't have neither. Amazing!




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So according to this they don't even have a license.incredible.
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