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Old 09-04-2007, 05:48 AM
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ah gotta love the professionalism of the school officials.
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Old 09-04-2007, 08:01 AM
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I have not seen so much dirt been put out since the St. Chris thing. Now here are my questions, to all:

1- Does this school has facilities?

2- Are they holding classes?

3-Do they have professors?

4- Are student's getting an education in exchange for their money?

Before someone points out the obvious, I already do know they do not have a charter, it happened to Xavier for a little while, as far as I can remember, ultimately they got it. Perhaps, as a result of government being too slow, or perhaps they have not applied , or perhaps it got denied? Can someone, answer WITHOUT speculation, I have had enough of that (especially with the Kennedy asasination theories ) Now, I am seeing serious accusations and words with serious legal consequences, like scam, fraud, etc. Open violation of TOS, perhaps yes, perhaps no, I don't get involved in that part of the forum. I just want to KNOW the answers for the 3 questions above.

Be civilized folks, whatever we say and do in these forums reflect on our true nature and character, and I am seeing a lot of poor character in this forum.

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Dear Max
You're absolutely right about Xavier having problems with its charter for time being, yet the school is doing fine now.

You're absolutely right about serious accusations and words with serious legal consequences, like scam, fraud, etc. I’m not sure why moderators are allowing that. CMU is a legit medical school and its operating with full support from the Government of Curacao and the Government of Netherlands Antilles.
"Perhaps, as a result of government being too slow, or perhaps they have not applied, or perhaps it got denied? "
We applied for the charter in March and the delayed occurred mainly because of the other medical school on the island claiming to have exclusive right, which was clarified a month ago.

You are also right about a lot of poor character in this forum.

Not your questions:
1. The facilities are the 2nd or 3rd largest among the caribbean med schools belong to the CIU, our "sister" university. We will be merging those 2 institutions soon.
2. We are holding classes from May since we signed an affiliation with CIU.
3. Currently there are 7 professors appointed for next semester and will be teaching PM1, MD1 and MD4.
4. Students are getting decent education in exchange for their tuition. There are about 30% students financing their education through the MedLoan program.

I hope this helps.
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:18 AM
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I have not seen so much dirt been put out since the St. Chris thing. Now here are my questions, to all:

1- Does this school has facilities?

2- Are they holding classes?

3-Do they have professors?

4- Are student's getting an education in exchange for their money?

Before someone points out the obvious, I already do know they do not have a charter, it happened to Xavier for a little while, as far as I can remember, ultimately they got it. Perhaps, as a result of government being too slow, or perhaps they have not applied , or perhaps it got denied? Can someone, answer WITHOUT speculation, I have had enough of that (especially with the Kennedy asasination theories ) Now, I am seeing serious accusations and words with serious legal consequences, like scam, fraud, etc. Open violation of TOS, perhaps yes, perhaps no, I don't get involved in that part of the forum. I just want to KNOW the answers for the 3 questions above.

Be civilized folks, whatever we say and do in these forums reflect on our true nature and character, and I am seeing a lot of poor character in this forum.

Max
Regardless of why they DO NOT HAVE A CHARTER YET, or why they are not IMED listed, why is it easy to ignore the possibility that all classes prior to getting one are NULL and VOID and the impact this would have on the students.

1. Outline how the Xavier situation played out and why it was acceptable to be open without any of that and how that affected their students.

2. Are you familiar with the St. Chris situation, what is your opinion of how they ended up, again without any of the above.

One has to really question the motives read here.
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:24 AM
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CMU is a legit medical school.
How can you say that CMU is a legit medical school when it does not have a charter to hold classes nor grant an MD degree?

It boggles the mind.
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Old 09-04-2007, 12:19 PM
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School Officials- Cant you see how amazingly unprofesional you look when you let your mouth get you into countless problems.
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Old 09-04-2007, 02:08 PM
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clarification

Possibility, you just said it, whoever wants to gamble with that possibility, let them help themselves doing so, it may work it may not work. You are not doing it, correct? Why get so passionate and personal over it?

Xavier is IMED listed, student ARE elegible to take the USMLE, and their charter was delayed, yes. I have not heard or do not know of any students having a problem taking the USMLE and getting their degree accepted.

In terms of the charter, their classes might be good from the moment the host country granted them a license or a permit to operate in their soil, even if the charter is delayed, you can ask any lawyer with some knowledge in this area, or you can ask the host government, they are in a better position to answer you that than merely speculating in these forums, they may tell you what are the specifics, why doesn't anyone here, that are so concerned about this address it with the Government of Curacao? Now, that really is mind boggling.

Yes I am familiar with ST. Chris, too familiar for my standards. Last time I checked they do have a charter, where you get that they don't have one? Check IMED below:

IMED - FAIMER International Medical Education Directory - School Details

What are my motives? To bring some civility in an obvious unprofessional and speculative thread and forum. I am not biased dude, contrary to most people here. I have seen some moderators not moderating, I have seen a school official behaving with balant unprofessionalism not to mention the rest of the pack.


" One has to really question the motives read here."

If you mean or are implying I work for the school, I will bet you whatever amount you want right off the bat I am not. If you think I am a student there, same, bet whatever you want because I like high stakes gambling when someone tries to say or imply something about me that is simply untrue. If interested on the bet, let me know.

Trying to be objective is my real motive, some people obviously have a problem with that.

Peace bro

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Regardless of why they DO NOT HAVE A CHARTER YET, or why they are not IMED listed, why is it easy to ignore the possibility that all classes prior to getting one are NULL and VOID and the impact this would have on the students.

1. Outline how the Xavier situation played out and why it was acceptable to be open without any of that and how that affected their students.

2. Are you familiar with the St. Chris situation, what is your opinion of how they ended up, again without any of the above.

One has to really question the motives read here.
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Old 09-04-2007, 02:34 PM
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Xavier is IMED listed, student ARE elegible to take the USMLE and as far as I am aware
Funny that you contradict yourself already, Because none of this is TRUE FOR CMU

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In terms of the charter, their classes might be good from the moment the host country granted them a license or a permit to operate in their soil, even if the charter is delayed, you can ask any lawyer with some knowledge in this area.
And you are suggesting that some students bet 100k and 4 years to find out I guess.

Is it me or did you just tackle your own case, update us when you verify with a lawyer then.

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Yes I am familiar with ST. Chris, too familiar for my standards. Last time I checked they do have a charter, where you get that they don't have one? Check IMED

IMED - FAIMER International Medical Education Directory - School Details
Well, you seemed to have answered your own questions yet your initial comment hinges on this "I already do know they (CMU) do not have a charter"

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What are my motives? To bring some civility in an obvious unprofessional and speculative thread and forum. I am not biased dude, contrary to most people here. I have seen some moderators not moderating, I have seen a school official behaving with balant unprofessionalism not to mention the rest of the pack.
This is actually an ironic statement, think about it

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" One has to really question the motives read here."

If you mean or are implying I work for the school, I will bet you whatever amount you want right off the bat I am not. If you think I am a student there, same, bet whatever you want because I like high stakes gambling when someone tries to say or imply something about me that is simply untrue. If interested on the bet, let me know.

Trying to be objective is my real motive, some people obviously have a problem with that.

Peace bro

Max
Interesting comments coming from you, given your "said" intent.

Re-read your original posts and your current posts.
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Old 09-04-2007, 02:54 PM
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whatever Hoss

Nice circular argument, but if that makes you feel happy, whatever mate, whatever you say is ok, you are the expert and objective one here.

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Funny that you contradict yourself already, Because none of this is TRUE FOR CMU

And you are suggesting that some students bet 100k and 4 years to find out I guess.

Is it me or did you just tackle your own case, update us when you verify with a lawyer then.

Well, you seemed to have answered your own questions yet your initial comment hinges on this "I already do know they (CMU) do not have a charter"

This is actually an ironic statement, think about it

Interesting comments coming from you, given your "said" intent.

Re-read your original posts and your current posts.
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Old 09-04-2007, 03:27 PM
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Nice circular argument, but if that makes you feel happy, whatever Hoss, whatever you say is ok, you are the expert and objective one here.
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Old 09-04-2007, 03:48 PM
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Nice circular argument, but if that makes you feel happy, whatever Hoss, whatever you say is ok, you are the expert and objective one here.

What's a "Hoss"?

Just asking 'cause I dont know what that means in this context.
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