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Old 08-30-2007, 06:41 PM
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Hey all,

Just discovered this website and have to admit that it has helped me, however, it has also confused me a bit. I am interested in CMU and want to consider it, nonetheless at this forum I have fallen under 2 extreme views about the university here. Either people are extremely positive about it or extremely negative. Is there some honest person out there who can give me a balanced outlook on the college. No college is perfect and no college is absolute crap either.

I would appreciate a balanced opinion from current students because I know that colleges always hail themselves as the best. So, tell me what are some good things about the college and some not so good things.

Thanks!
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Old 08-30-2007, 06:45 PM
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It does not have a charter, is not listed in IMED or WHO, thus you can not take the USMLE nor become a licensed physician from this school.

So unless you want to waste your money on a fraudulent diploma that isn't worth the paper it is printed on, what more do you need to know?
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Old 08-30-2007, 06:53 PM
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Go And Waste Your Money

One would think that the verdict on CMU is very clear, but if you still want to go, well GO AND WASTE YOUR MONEY AND END UP STRANDED ON THE ROCKS BY THE POONTOON BRIDGE in OTRABANDA.
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:28 PM
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Hey all,

Just discovered this website and have to admit that it has helped me, however, it has also confused me a bit. I am interested in CMU and want to consider it, nonetheless at this forum I have fallen under 2 extreme views about the university here. Either people are extremely positive about it or extremely negative. Is there some honest person out there who can give me a balanced outlook on the college. No college is perfect and no college is absolute poop either.

I would appreciate a balanced opinion from current students because I know that colleges always hail themselves as the best. So, tell me what are some good things about the college and some not so good things.

Thanks!
The facts that you read through all the information on this forum and you still type that stuff up there sort of leads one to wonder your real identity. like you are testing to see what people will say.
You knjow what I advice you to go to CMU. it is a great school and you will become a doctoor in 4 years. infact see if they can accept you this septeber semester so as not to waste much time. good luck. [edited].

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Old 08-30-2007, 08:06 PM
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The facts that you read through all the information on this forum and you still type that stuff up there sort of leads one to wonder your real identity. like you are testing to see what people will say.
You knjow what I advice you to go to CMU. it is a great school and you will become a doctoor in 4 years. infact see if they can accept you this septeber semester so as not to waste much time. good luck.
Was that not what you wanted to hear? good. now have a good time at CMU.
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Pardon me, I don't mean to be rude but I haven't gone thru every single thread about CMU at this forum as I just found it today, not to mention that I am in a very difficult situation currently. I'm already enrolled in a med school overseas but things aren't exactly working out for me. Started to browse and found the college's website and then found this site.

I appreciate the fact that someone mentioned that it is not listed on ECFMG or the WHO, however, from what I've read, CMU just opened this year, so don't they usually say that new schools often take a few years to get on the list?

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Old 08-30-2007, 08:25 PM
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I appreciate the fact that someone mentioned that it is not listed on ECFMG or the WHO, however, from what I've read, CMU just opened this year, so don't they usually say that new schools often take a few years to get on the list?
Uuuh, no. As long as they have the proper documentations (a mere charter would do), all they have to do is submit it. Should take no more than a few weeks at max. There is no special accreditation board it must pass for this.

The fact that CMU does NOT HAVE A CHARTER despite already being in operation for more than a semester should be ringing alarm bells in anyones head for miles around. If you have read through all the posts as you have claimed, the responses given by the school administrator should have you running as fast as you can.

Just the fact that the school does not have a charter yet is more than bad enough. But they also claim to be operating under another school's charter (CIU) that doesn't even have doctor of medicine listed as one of its degrees it is licensed to confer. As of last week when I emailed IMED, they have STILL not received ANY type of paperwork. The letter from the government in response is funnier even still when it tells them to follow the proper procedures first.

Of course, until recently their webpage CLAIMED to have all of these. It wasn't until after much discussion on ValueMD did they finally alter their blatantly false advertising. Which leads me to the fact that they completely stole their website from others WORD for WORD. They blamed this on their IT department, but how can you NOT tell when the main bulk of your website is vastly different than what you "originally" wrote (assuming they did write anything in the first place) before heavily promoting your website? Sounds suscipious no? Until recently, and probably still, there are many places where it's painfully obvious they just replaced another university's name with their own.

The actions of the school administrator says enough by itself as well. Look, he's the only administrator to get infractions and a temporary ban as well. Amazing. Also, hopefully you caught on how he kept changing his words about IMED and the charter despite obvious evidence pointed out to him, and how he called everyone else a liar and "Agents" of other schools.

The school's clinical sites are also very dubious. Every other reputable offshore school proudly proclaims their sites. CMU hides it and tries to confuse it by mixing words like preceptorship and claiming to have sites where they legally CANNOT have any site where students may rotate.

Lastly, the school has ZERO track record. Not one graduated student, not one who has passed the usmle, nothing. Not even their own campus (they rent space and claim to own the building due to being "affiliated").

So hey, as you said, it's your call.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:38 PM
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Polarized viewpoints

You should read the St Christophers threads. They are quite similar because there was a long battle between two groups with very different viewpoints. The people who attended the school were very positive. Those who were not at the school were very negative. In the end, those who were outside were shown to be correct.

Those who attend a new school have every reason to promote it because they are out of a degree if the school closes due to low recruitment. In the St. Chris case, we saw students recruiting others simply so they could keep their own heads above water. Thus, you need to be wary of positive news from students at fledgling schools. The valueMD community is generally pretty good at exposing problem schools. You know the school is new and striving to recruit students. There are questions about its charter. What more do you need to know?

As teratos has pointed out, the destination is the same whether you go to a new school or an old school. -- you don't get any bonus points for taking a risky route. Thus, it is foolish to take unnecessary risks when there are proven low-risk alternatives.
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