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On a serious note, this could be one way to make some people sit up and think about their actions and deceptions.

The big three also fudge numbers and lie about the realities of their schools too. Ross officials say their attrition is 20 percent, a friend of mine who went there said out of 400 students only 150 made it to clinical rotations. AUC and SGU also do the same but not the extreme. SGU and AUC claim that 90 percent of their students become MDs. Even a few Australian schools over tout their abilities to get US students into residencies.
That being said, buyer beware.

SGU (and I believe AUC) have a 0% default rate on student loans. How do you explain that? People must be graduating and getting jobs as MD's, because you can't pay those type of loans back on $10/hour...

You have to admit that a schol without a charter that markets itself and an accredited schol is nowhere near this.

There are many students from those schools who never get a degree too or become physicians. A foreign medical school should be an ABSOLUTE LAST RESORT. I don't care what country it is in. Looking back I wish I tried to apply to DO programs.

haha hindsight is always 50-50 eh?

yes, but THOSE people never got a degree through their own merit (or lack of)- they failed classes or couldn't pass the steps- NOT because they were ineligible to sit for the boards because their school was not imed listed...yes- foreign schools should be a last resort- but knowing that it is your last chance- you should do everything to get through- its med SCHOOL- not club med...

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I am sure that for every person who did not make it, there is another one who manages to get licensed. I peronally met plenty of doctors who were trained in a foreign medical country, now I am not talking countries that have never heared of USMLEs, can still manage to pass the necessary tests and get the license to practice medicine. The important thing is that medicine is exactly the same in every coutry and passing a standardize exam depends completely on the individual.

I have been an attending physician in the usa for MANY years and am a Caribe grad.

There are many reasons people never reach their goal. Some are homesick. Depressed from a different culture. Some simply realize it is not what they really wanted or thought it was. For some the sheer volume of learning doesn't suit them.

Many change their majors in university within their home country. Still, when u consider the hurdles that many HAVE overcome and succeeded in their goals it is quite worthy.
Nowadays you don't even need to learn a new language. Many schools teach in english and gear their studies for usmle.

I have witnessed people quitting medicine prior to completing their residency. (USMG's) I have seen USMG's kicked out of residency programs for either/or incompetency, behavioral stuff, addiction.

Graduating from ANY LCME school is indeed POLITICALLY CORRECT and will make it easier to get a residency, etc,etc.

Nowadays a DO is more or less equivalent to a US MD, though after many years of legal battles by DO's and DO schools. Organized medicine pulled the same stunts attempting to discredit DO's.

The fact is many have succeeded and some haven't. That holds true in any profession, any school, anywhere.

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Hate to burst the bubble but many never even apply in the US (if that is where you r from) I will say that any grad of a lcme school has a relative "walk in the park" as far as getting into a residency. Although not ANY residency. There is quite a bit of competition among lcme grads for certain surgical subspecialties, derm, and in recent years em.

Aside from the political incorrectness in having a non lcme degree in the usa, it really isn't much of a big deal. Medicine is basically the same anywhere. Some schools may have beautifully painted and hallways, well manicured gardens, be more aesthetically appealing, but you really cant alter basic or clinical sciences.

Are you in a residency or licensed already?

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