Where does CMU offer clinical rotations?
Are the ACGME approved?
Does CMU have formal contracts for clinical rotations?
Will these clinicals be available for students currently in the fourth semester at CMU?

At my post here: http://www.valuemd.com/654130-post74.html

I was curious about the 0.03 - 1 ratio.

Does this mean there are clinical students at CMU??

yes, there is one transfer student doing rotations in Chicago /he passed Step 1 but couldnt get rotations from his former school/. Another 4 starting in September /1 in UK and 3 in US/

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Well that's interesting!

This means the hospital/rotation site did not do any due diligence before accepting the student. I can see them getting sued big time if this continues.

this doesnt answer the question which is the topic of this thread. so lets try to stay on topic.

what hospitals does cmu have contracts with? i am talking about contracts with the actual HOSPITALS not random preceptors with privileges in hospitals. solid contracts between the hospital and cmu with no middle man involved. i cannot emphasize this more, since im trying to eliminate any wiggle room to deflect the question.

RL, i know you posted a list of hospitals in the past that preceptors had privileges at, but this is a different question since i am interested in cmu-hospital contracts, NOT cmu-preceptor contracts.

second question: i noticed you said that you had a contract with a hospital in miami, which one? there are 3 hospitals in miami that have acgme residencies in a core specialty. they are miami childrens, jackson memorial, and mount sinai. is it one of those?

please try not to deflect these two important questions about your curriculum. this is a perfect oppurtunity to stop digging a hole for yourself and your school.

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Could not have said it better! My guess is that there will never be a straightforward answer from RL.

That is not true, he sometimes answers some questions in the straightforward way. The only problem is that the tough questions or the questions related to the school policies are just

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lets just wait for his answer and keep this thread as small as possible without growing. the smaller the thread, the more open the specific question posed is on VMD.

RL, this thread is open for you response.

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The contracts with the hospitals /ACGME/ approved for core and or elective are signed under the MedOne Program. Currently 23. The contracts with preceptors are only for elective rotations.

Unfortunately I had to remove hospital names from that list, since it was a tough job to get them and other schools admins would like to try to get them. On top of that we have already lost 2 hospitals in Chicago because prospective students kept calling them and the management doest want to spend time answering the calls regarding the affiliation. They have more important things to do.

When we finalize the IMED listing and get stronger relationship with the hospitals, I will reveal the names.

If you still dont believe, wait till more of our students start the clinicals and you would be able to contact them to confirm.


1. Detroit, Michigan All Core/Electives
2. Detroit, Michigan All Core/Electives
3. Detroit, Michigan All Core/Electives
4. Miami, Florida All Core/Electives
5. Columus, Ohio Electives
6. Columbus, Ohio Core/Electives
7. Columbus, Ohio Core
8. Columbus, Ohio Electives
9. Columbus, Ohio Core / Electives
10. Cleveland, Ohio ALL Core/Electives
11. Cleveland, Ohio ALL Core/Electives
12. Cleveland, Ohio ALL Core/Electives
13. Cleveland, Ohio All Core/Electives
14. Cleveland, Ohio Core
15. Marietta, Georgia Core
16. Atlanta, Georgia Core
17. Chicago, Illinois All Core/Electives
18. Chicago, Illinois Core
19. Chicago, Illinois All Core/Electives
20. Chicago ,Illinois Core
21. Chicago, Illinois Core
22. Baltimore, Maryland Core
23. Baltimore, Maryland Core

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Thank you for the reply, however a couple of things I noticed:

1) Without the names of the hospitals, it becomes difficult to verify that the affiliations exist.
2) How do you have a rotation in Miami, FL without being approved by the FL Dept. of Education to conduct rotations in that state?
3) Why does your website list rotations in Oregon, Maine, Texas and other states not on this list?