Time will show who was right - Page 3

lswiltshire · #21 (**permalink**) 08-23-2007, 12:43 PM

Rokshana wrote
So ok, maybe, and i am s-t-r-e-t-c-h-i-n-g belief here, but maybe the gov't of curacao will grant you the ablity to confer a degree (whether THAT is a medical degree, well....) and you get IMED listing - fine you are fully capable of producing doctors to practice in curacao.

PLEASE NOTE CAREFULLY THAT THE MD OF ANY OFFSHORE OR ONSHORE US SCHOOL IS ACCEPTED IN THE DUTCH OR BWI TERRITORIES EXCEPT YOU HAVE DONE A RESIDENCY AND SPECIALIZED

THE DUTCH EXPECT YOU TO TRAIN FOR 7 YEARS IN ALL BEFORE YOU CAN PRACTICE

SOP CMU GRADS WONT EVEN BE ABLE TO PRACTICE IN CURACAO

MYMD · #22 (**permalink**) 08-23-2007, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by emt036

If CIU had a charter to open a medical school (and there is no evidence that they do/did), then why didn't they open a medical school? With all the new schools opening in the Caribbean before basic paperwork (i.e. Charter/IMED listing) is completed, it must be quite a cash cow. And I am sure medical school charters aren't cheap - so why buy one if you are not going to use it. Doesn't make sense. Also, CIU getting a medical school charter would not be likely with the ban on new medical schools that RL keeps talking about.

Yea I agree there are questions here, You do need PHD's and MD's to open up a Medical school perhaps it just wasn't organized well? I have no idea ? Maybe the thought was "in the future" I have no idea?

It is clear that IMED and ECMFG is cracking down on these schools thats why the new policy has come out. After SC problems I understand and think between SC and Krigezi the world has been forever changed by them and anyone wanting to do anything like this will find it harder now.

lswiltshire · #23 (**permalink**) 08-23-2007, 12:45 PM

RL

TIME HAS ALREADY SHOWN THAT YOU ARE WRONG

You remind me of the saying of my 4th form Maths teacher. He would say to the lads.......YOU CAN LIE LIKE A HORSE CAN TROT

MYMD · #24 (**permalink**) 08-23-2007, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lswiltshire

Rokshana wrote

THE DUTCH EXPECT YOU TO TRAIN FOR 7 YEARS IN ALL BEFORE YOU CAN PRACTICE

SOP CMU GRADS WONT EVEN BE ABLE TO PRACTICE IN CURACAO

Well not true, Curacao will be it's own country so they can decide who can practice there. ( just wanted to throw that out there)

lswiltshire · #25 (**permalink**) 08-23-2007, 12:53 PM

Well thats how it was when I lived there two years ago. THIS WAS CLERARLY SPELT OUT BY HOSPITAL AND OTHER HEALTH OFFICIALS THERE.

There was a local girl who graduated from St Eustatius who was unable to practice in Curacao then.

You really expect someone in the islands to let people come on thier island with a degree from a bogus offshore med school and practice medicine after 4 years?

You cant do it in the USA. Why do you think it will happen in the islands.

The islanders are poor, but they are not stupid!

Anyway, but to the issue of the moment! Dealing with the errant RL and his new SJMS. You can take RL from SJMS, but you cant take SJMS out of RL!

rlewkowski · #26 (**permalink**) 08-23-2007, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by emt036

Again, you are being evasive. If the school is listed in IMED as starting in late 2007, or 2008, then classes taken before that don't count for ECFMG nor licensing.

But it is offered through the CMU foundation, which is the school. Where the school's bank account is probably doesn't matter.

All schools in the Caribbean are accredited by the appropriate civil authorities/government agency in the country where they are located, except CMU (and St. Chris/other fraudulent schools.) All of them are also listed in IMED, which leads to the ability to take USMLE exams and ECFMG certification, none of which CMU has, despite claims.

Once again with this laundry list of unverified claims of how bad it is at other schools. Makes one think that there is nothing good to say about CMU (or at least verifiably good).

I’m now going to start using your language. All 3 points all 3 lies

rlewkowski · #27 (**permalink**) 08-23-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by finishingfifth

Hey RL, did any of these things happen at SJMS while you were there? Did you do anything to stop it?

If you had an idea how SJSM is functioning you would know that there is a one /president/ man show. Without his approval I wasn’t even able to buy cleaning supplies for the school

finishingfifth · #28 (**permalink**) 08-23-2007, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rlewkowski

If you had an idea how SJSM is functioning you would know that there is a one /president/ man show. Without his approval I wasn’t even able to buy cleaning supplies for the school

So, we are to expect CMU to get IMED and ECFMG approval with an official on staff who cant get Charmin approved? Wow, good luck with that.

emt036 · #29 (**permalink**) 08-23-2007, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rlewkowski

I’m now going to start using your language. All 3 points all 3 lies

Very elegant way of avoiding any of the issues raised with regards to licensing/legitimacy of the school. You know, with people spending years of their lives and hundreds of thousands of dollars on a medical education, one would hope that the chairman of a medical school would take it seriously enough to offer non-evasive, truthful responses to questions asked, instead of resorting to name-calling.

finishingfifth · #30 (**permalink**) 08-23-2007, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rlewkowski

I’m now going to start using your language. All 3 points all 3 lies

Uhhh, they arent lies. They are all easily verifiable. Unlike any claims CMU makes. I think staff at CMU might have told you to stop responding on VMD because you aren't very good at it. The people on here are mostly future/current physicians, not a gullible bunch of people. they are not going to be outsmarted by a snake oil salesman. I suggest you stick to your current occupation, which is the fradulent promotion of a uncertified & unrecognized patch of rented office space you call a medical school.

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