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Old 08-13-2007, 09:05 PM
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eh belligerent won't get you thrown out but being fraudulent evidently will.

but i agree with scott - if the next step is to remove this forum- i say it should be left in place- prospective students need to see something other than just the cmu website
No, the forum will stay. I think it is important for people to see what has transpired. Consider it a public service. Anyone doing a search on any Caribbean school will find this site in a very short period of time. It is the busiest forum of it's kind. I think it also has the toughest crowd......
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CMU is a bad disappointment.

CMU seems to be getting the treatment it deserves.

When I heard of its origins, and realized that it was a break off from SJMS, I hoped that the administrator would have used his knowledge of the ills that he had seen and experienced in Bonaire, and that he would have come with a clean act.

Then I noticed on one of their silly videos a face of a student who was on the St Martinus promotional video that came out last year. After CMU stole their website from another school, they allegedly went on the St Martinus campus and offered free housing and scholarships to St Martinus students so that they would defect to their school, in the same way that XUSOM in May 2004 went on the SJMS campus and stole students. .

CMU did this even though they knew they didn’t have a charter or license to teach in Curacao at the time. When these students realized that they had now entered a state of educational decadence, they left CMU. Some, after losing a whole semester, returned home to St Martinus , just like the prodigal son of old, and others went in search of pastures more verdant than those which exist at CME in reality!

Prospective students must learn to listen to the hoary heads of the longtime members of the valueMD forum. When they say look before you leap, you must heed or end up smashed on the rocks.

CMU is a bad disappointment. It is unlikely that this bogus school will last very long. It may have already passed its sell by date, who knows.
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"they allegedly went on the St Martinus campus and offered free housing and scholarships to St Martinus students so that they would defect to their school, in the same way that XUSOM in May 2004 went on the SJMS campus and stole students."

First, CMU officials never went to the campus of St. Martinus. In fact, the students and faculty members visited our campus at the open house and decided to transfer.
Second, CMU obtained a license to operate on the island of Curacao and is currently awaiting listing in the IMED.
Third, students who left CMU during the first semester are now coming back after struggling to get their documents from St. Martinus with a support of the local police.
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Second, CMU obtained a license to operate on the island of Curacao and is currently awaiting listing in the IMED.



Hi,

Can we see the license?

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Old 08-20-2007, 10:38 PM
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I hope this license to which you refer isn't the document posted on CMU's website purporting to be a charter that basically says the Curacao gov't supports the planning phase of opening a new medical school, and that the school admin needs to contact the relevant agencies, such as the departments of Education and Health, before starting a new medical school. This letter was just signed last week, so I wonder if they are aware that classes are being conducted without the proper permits/licenses.
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EMT is right. I just checked the school website and it said the governments of N.A. supports the investors decision to start a medical school, provided that the school comply with the necessary requirements to do so. However this is IT. This cannot be the offical charter to start a medical school there. MAN~
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EMT is right. I just checked the school website and it said the governments of N.A. supports the investors decision to start a medical school, provided that the school comply with the necessary requirements to do so. However this is IT. This cannot be the offical charter to start a medical school there. MAN~
The only charter they have up there belong to CIU. And I should it add it doesn't even have doctor of medicine listed there either at any rate. I'm sorely tempted to open up my own off-shore medical school.
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The only charter they have up there belong to CIU. And I should it add it doesn't even have doctor of medicine listed there either at any rate. I'm sorely tempted to open up my own off-shore medical school.
I have been thinking of the same thing. Starting my own off-shore medical school somewhere.. fill the school up with all those doctors from korea and yeah make big bucks there!!!
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The only charter they have up there belong to CIU. And I should it add it doesn't even have doctor of medicine listed there either at any rate. I'm sorely tempted to open up my own off-shore medical school.
You don't actually need to open up a medical school - just rent some space, make/copy a flashy website full of "gross exaggerations", pretend to have a charter/ECFMG/IMED/WHO listing (who is going to check anyways), lure some students, and watch the money roll in. You don't even have to worry about pretending to have clinical sites, because none of your students will be eligible to sit for Step I and even start clinicals.

Note: This is purely hypothetical. This does not resemble any current medical school, and no such inferences should be drawn.
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CMU seems to be getting the treatment it deserves.

When I heard of its origins, and realized that it was a break off from SJMS, I hoped that the administrator would have used his knowledge of the ills that he had seen and experienced in Bonaire, and that he would have come with a clean act.

Then I noticed on one of their silly videos a face of a student who was on the St Martinus promotional video that came out last year. After CMU stole their website from another school, they allegedly went on the St Martinus campus and offered free housing and scholarships to St Martinus students so that they would defect to their school, in the same way that XUSOM in May 2004 went on the SJMS campus and stole students. .

CMU did this even though they knew they didn’t have a charter or license to teach in Curacao at the time. When these students realized that they had now entered a state of educational decadence, they left CMU. Some, after losing a whole semester, returned home to St Martinus , just like the prodigal son of old, and others went in search of pastures more verdant than those which exist at CME in reality!

Prospective students must learn to listen to the hoary heads of the longtime members of the valueMD forum. When they say look before you leap, you must heed or end up smashed on the rocks.

CMU is a bad disappointment. It is unlikely that this bogus school will last very long. It may have already passed its sell by date, who knows.
You are ON POINT with you comments, and it's increasingly nauseating to watch them repeat the same points over and over while AVOIDING the real issues here; that they DO NOT have their ish together, enough to claim they can train future doctors. Bleech!
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