Future of CMU - Page 13

dt · #**121** (**permalink**) 08-25-2007, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by finishingfifth

Thats interseting, but this forum is about the problems with CMU. I am sure SJMS is probably a pretty lousy school. But their school offcials dont come on here and act unprofessional. Only their former employees.

Not true. sjsmstudent is a st. james official. initially he masqueraded as a student but was called on it. That's why if you look at his profile, you'll see that even though his id is sjsm student, he is now a school official.

http://www.valuemd.com/members/sjsmstudent.html

I believe there is merit to lswiltshire's observation.

rlewkowski · #**122** (**permalink**) 08-25-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dt

Not true. sjsmstudent is a st. james official. initially he masqueraded as a student but was called on it.

You're right DT. Can I call finishingfifth a liar from now on, since he posts untrue information?

MYMD · #**123** (**permalink**) 08-25-2007, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dt

Not true. sjsmstudent is a st. james official. initially he masqueraded as a student but was called on it. That's why if you look at his profile, you'll see that even though his id is sjsm student, he is now a school official.

http://www.valuemd.com/members/sjsmstudent.html

I believe there is merit to lswiltshire's observation.

Yea I saw that too, suspected as much after reading the first posts by the user(proves that SJSM is not part of CMU too like I posted). Look I know a lot cause I'm a web addict as well as a student but some of these posters know too much! thats when I start to OCD some on them, wonder who they really are!

I tell you there are many days I'm not proud of the school I attend

Just another year or so then I can forget about it!

dt · #**124** (**permalink**) 08-25-2007, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MYMD

I'm not a CHeerleader for SJSM just for facts and truth. YOu are not in possession of the exact truth just hearsay, I too have hearsay and 1.5 years of first hand knowledge.

1. Do you know the contracts signed by students? I have a copy that I signed
2. DO you have a copy of contracts signed by professors? DO you have taped conversations and transcripts of the agreements spoken at the times? Do you ( I would think not)
3. What is wrong with asking for proof of the allegations anyone makes? You have made them before and I called you on some of them.
4. WHO ARE YOU? BTW I'm a 3rd year student but you claim to have taught in Medschool..........HMM You claim to be a student too? I'm confused. http://www.valuemd.com/658779-post43.html
SO are you an ADMIN somewhere? If so you are not supposed to be posting as a student.
5. Of course SJSM is a mess I agree, it need lots of work but they have a charter and there are fully Lic grads from SJSM so the school is legit just not as nice as a lot of others.
6. TRUTH is not cheerleading theres a big difference

I'm sorry you are so angry, you make some good points and SJSM is not a great school but it is enough to get Lic and thats what I have deal with. As I asked stay on topic in the CMU forum and leave SJSM out of it please. When discussing a school Posting both sides is not cheerleading. CHeerleading is more like a lie or a spin.

MODS please take note.

My response to your comments I highlighted in bold...

I think if you look back at lswiltshire's posts you should see that he mentioned teaching at st. james.

So, for #2, yes he should have the contract he signed. Whether he kept it is another matter.

For #4, the link you provided has

Quote:

In the bogus school at which I taught in the Cooks last year there were perhaps 300 books but ALL WERE RELEVANT! At least they had that and a proper building for the sudents.

He did not claim to be a student. He was a teacher.

MODS should take note of this post of mine too... ;-)

finishingfifth · #**125** (**permalink**) 08-25-2007, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rlewkowski

You're right DT. Can I call finishingfifth a liar from now on, since he posts untrue information?

You dont need permission to call me anything. If you want to call me a liar, go ahead. Your previous posts and history easily reveal your character.

I wasnt aware of the situation, I will admit I was unaware. My post was innacuarate because I have not memorized the history of every user on VMD, my apologies.

But, here we are again. You are still ignoring the REAL issues:
Where do you offer clinicals (hospital names, not just states)?

Why did you say you had rotations in PA and NJ, and then admit you didnt have them?

What is the exact date CMU will have its own charter?

When exactly will CMU be listed in IMED?

You never give real answers to these questions, you dodge them and try to change the subject.

I will stay on your case until you answer these questions, I dont want you to deceive any more potential CMU students.

dt · #**126** (**permalink**) 08-25-2007, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rlewkowski

You're right DT. Can I call finishingfifth a liar from now on, since he posts untrue information?

No, not yet! We gave you time to change/correct. And when you didnt, well...

Give him time to catch up.

emt036 · #**127** (**permalink**) 08-25-2007, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rlewkowski

You're right DT. Can I call finishingfifth a liar from now on, since he posts untrue information?

With only 15 posts, it is easy to imagine that fifth missed the fact that sjsmstudent was a school official. Heck, I didn't even know. So I don't believe it was an intentional lie, in comparison to other cases.

rlewkowski · #**128** (**permalink**) 08-25-2007, 12:14 PM

I wasnt aware of the situation.

finishingfifth · #**129** (**permalink**) 08-25-2007, 12:18 PM

Still avoiding the REAL questions? Just answer them, stop this charade.

lswiltshire · #**130** (**permalink**) 08-25-2007, 12:22 PM

MYMD
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I'm not a CHeerleader for SJSM just for facts and truth.

MYMD I have not called you a cheerleader for SJMS. Please do not flee when no man pursueth. I have no problem with you or your posts.

CHeerleading is more like a lie or a spin

Not true. Cheer leading is promotion. Those lovely girls who dance etc at games in your country are not lying surely. They may be spinning (pun intended) but they are not lying.

TRUTH is not cheerleading theres a big difference

We agree 100% there Sir. And I have told the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I have been on these fora since 2002, and I always tell the truth. Of course some folk believe that you should not tell all the truth all the time because it hurts!

When discussing a school Posting both sides is not cheerleading.

I agree with you again Sir. That’s why it is true to say that there are a lot of things that I have noticed about CMU, that I noticed about SJMS. Some I saw myself, and some reputable men who taught there have reported. Don’t lose your integrity by trying to defend the indefensible. As we say in the great game of cricket………..you don’t have to play at every ball.

YOu are not in possession of the exact truth just hearsay,

You do not know that Sir! I actually taught the students involved, and became close friends with some of them. Thats how I ferreted out what was happening.I know that they did not finish the course that I was teaching, and other courses. I have no need to lie. Unfortunately I cant call their names here on the forum, or the school they transferred from, or the teachers who confirmed there stories. Seems some of them were in your classes. Why would these students lie about where they were going to school?. I can assure you that I am telling the truth about this matter Sir. And you know full well that I cant give the details that I have here. All I will say that this incident caused the investigation by the reporter from Higher Chronicle. Some of us tried at that point to take it further.

What is wrong with asking for proof of the allegations anyone makes? You have made them before and I called you on some of them.

Never stated these truths on this forum before. And we discussed our difference of opinions about books and libraries quite amicably. I have, however, noted where allegations listed by RL refers to SJMS, purely in the interest of TRUTH and completeness.

I'm sorry you are so angry, you make some good points

I am not angry. Just stating facts about my experiences, and my beliefs. And having lots of fun in the process.

Of course I make good points. After all I am an island scholar and I attended excellent schools and schools of excellence, and graduated from the best medical school in the region in 1979. Then I some how descended and devolved to teaching at bogus medical schools. Never claimed to be still a medical student………though still, and always a student of medicine.

As I asked stay on topic in the CMU forum and leave SJSM out of it please.

I don’t come in the forum and tell folk what to write. Nor do I tell them to stay on topic when obviously they are way off. Tolerance and some latitude please. Even in court that is allowed. I know that I don’t have to play at every ball and comment on everything.

You and others beside me are guilty of straying of topic sometimes. Quid Scripsi, Scripsi. I spoke the truth! Why do you want to deny me my fun on the forum. I don’t deny anyone theirs.

But I repeat, I believe that CMU was spawned by an employee of SJMS, and this CMU representative has brought SJMS into the CMU forum. He has thus opened the door as they say in the courts. This is undeniably the truth. There is indeed a big link between the two. When the UWI began in 1948 it was a college of the University of London. For years everything was done as they do in London, including wearing gowns and long white coats in the tropics! Eventually much of these links were shed.

I am just facetiously appealing for some mercy for RL himself in the same way that we love to blame the sins of murderers and other criminals today on their upbringing. RL should be pardoned because he worked at SJMS and learned their techniques. Its not all his fault! Its his upbringing!

YOu are not in possession of the exact truth just hearsay,

I actually taught the students involved, and became close friends with some of them. I know that they did not finish the course that I was teaching, and other courses. I have no need to lie. Unfortunately I cant call their names. Seems some of them were in your classes. Why would these students lie about where they were going to school. I can assure you that I am telling the truth about this matter Sir.

and SJSM is not a great school
Of course SJSM is a mess I agree, it need lots of work….just not as nice as a lot of others.

We agree on all these statements 100%. We just don’t seem to agree that that is where RL learned his game, and that that he is practicing what he learned there. But we can disagree without being disagreeable. Lets do that eh?

I tell you there are many days I'm not proud of the school I attend

I can understand how you feel.
I felt the same way after being there for half a day.
I actually taught at SJMS for a month and got fired because Lala wont keep the terms of his contract with me and I called him a crook and charlatan! I was not to know then that I was not the only one that he had duped. I was not the first nor the last. So when RL cites things on the CMU forum that I know to be true,. I ought to be able to say though RL lies like a horse can trot, he is telling the truth on this particular matter.

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