The moral is don't rely on anonymous trash from this or any other gossip board! Australian 4 year med schools are not terribly competitive. It's cheap and easy to apply so just do it. And make a go for PR once you get to Australia -- you may or may not get it but if you do, you save a lot of money. Those who tell you it is not possible are probably a bit envious of those who have managed it.

From UQ site:

American Medical College Admission Test (MCAT)

International candidates may apply with either GAMSAT or MCAT scores.

The MCAT is divided into four sections designed to assess performance in verbal reasoning, physical sciences, writing and biological sciences.

It is held twice a year in April and August.

The University of Queensland requires broadly based competence as shown by acceptable levels of performance in all sections of MCAT. Applicants are usually required to have achieved minimum scores of 8/8/8/M but may be considered for interview if their scores fall just below these minimums.

Test centres for MCAT are spread throughout North America plus Australia, Singapore, England, France, Germany, Israel, Lebanon and Japan. Further information regarding MCAT is available from the MCAT Program Office.

Do you read the posts? Do you understand the responses already made to your claims?

1) For the third time, minimum required to apply says nothing as to the stats of those attending, of whom (at best) you know a few of the dumber ones at USydney, where you are obviously unhappy. Most schools in the US have no cutoff, I guess they all suck.

2) For the third time, there is a real risk of headaches if Permanent Residency is gotten after acceptance as an int'l -- yes, do the research, don't listen to ppl like pre-doc_that_for_some_reason_has_no_country_and_who_li kes_to_bash_all_of_a_country's_schools_generally _and_who_doesn't_like_critical_analysis, find out from the school FIRST.

doc_with_no_country, merely repeating your same silly claims doesn't sway anyone. Argumentation is far more persuasive with actual (reasoned) arguments.

Go somewhere else, troll.

-pitman

I just saw some UQ stats for the 2005 class...first, GAMSAT cutoff before interview was 50/50/50 (62 overall). But, incoming class' average was 67. In other words, if it wasn't obvious before, it's apparent that cutoff says little as to what's expected (except don't bother 'cause you won't get an interview without it!). Not *proof* for same w/ MCAT scores, but certainly in line with what I and many others have found: the 24M minimum to get an interview at most the schools is not sufficient to get in -- you should have ~30 to have a good shot...at least with UQ, Flinders, and Melbourne.

A bit more for those interested, or who think all the schools care about is $$...

54 int'l students in the cohort:
23 Canada
16 Brunei
6 Singapore
5 USA
2 UK
1 Malaysia
1 Norway

-pitman

Hey *****:

Nothing you have posted here reflects any ability to reason. Thank goodness we don't have to worry about you becoming a doctor any time soon (if at all). Why not go terrorize your little PBL group.

Look who's talking about "unhappy". You got problems mate. Face it. If you don't get some "help", chances are you aren't going to make it through medical school.



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"Freak"? Amusing choice of epithet.

Fortunately, ppl can look at our running histories on the matter, here and at SDN.

Anyone can look at your and my prior posts to see who has any integrity, and who on the other hand has admitted he's unhappy and bitter [at USyd], denigrating all that's Aussie :P

Some ppl, actually the audience at hand, can follow the reasoning laid out that shreds your silly drivel.

You still insisting you know something about the admissions stats of Aussie int'l students? Then inquiring minds would like to see an actual argument or two in your bold assertions! Got any? huh? Or just "freak" comments?

-pitman

Medical careers in Australia are not as lucrative and prestigious as they are in the USA. Ask any local GP here or most of the people who live here, in a country with socialized medicine, everyone takes doctors for granted. One GP admitted that Chiropractors earn more than fully trained GPs and specialists.

George,

That's an interesting opinion and claim, but since nothing to do with the topic of this thread, I'll just say that I wholeheartedly disagree with them.

btw for anyone not from Oz...chiropractors here aren't anything like what N. Americans would call chiropractors, in fact are considerably LESS evidence-based.

-pitman

The actual MCAT ave for accepted int'l students at UQ last year was 28P.

I may have reported on this site that it was 32 (i did so at SDN), but if so, it's a regrettable error that I must apologize for: I made my original calculation using an Excel spreadsheet of raw data, and unfortunately, I did not realize that some of the data fields were defined as text rather than as numerical, thus when calculating column average, the damned program SKIPS the numbers that it has defined as 'text'. G*d*m cryptic msoft macros!

At any rate, indeed, as I argued above empirically and by the analogy of GAMSAT scores, it's considerably higher than the 24M doc_without_any_country likes to arbitrarily assert even in the face of counter-reasoning.

-pitman

Yeah, word is someone at UQ is in real hot water for posting false info about their admissions policies. Word is that they didn't get their expected number of applicants because people weren't willing to to waste an ACER choice on UQ, having heard they had a 32 average.

You'll be damn lucky if you graduate. It's a high stakes financial game and when you cut into profits, you'll get burned. You're dealin' with the Mafia, bud.

"Word is...."?? Word is you're paranoid delusional. Funny, fallacious stuff. Do try again.