Alright...so we here that there are many clinical spots and many of them are open for the most part (just depends on location). I was having a converation with a 5th semester today in between games of basketball on the courts and he was saying that there are about 8 clinical spots open for his class in the US (California) and about 24ish spots in europe. There are 60 or so people in his class, and to make it worse the spots that are open are being taken by students who have already left the island and taken step I's...which means that the current 5th semesters will be out of spots and will have to wait.

He also stated that that would mean they would not receive financial aid for that time period and would have to start repaying some loans due to the time period they'd be out of school. It would also effect their 2006 residency match where they would more than likely have to wait till 2007 to match.

I understand that there has been someone hired above Phil Green and will be assisting him in all these matters.

A 'mind opening' statement he made was that when he was in my position (3rd semester), he thought it would all just kind of fix itself with all the time until he had to worry about it. Either by fixing the current system if it needs being fixed, add more clinical sites, or add more clinical starting times for students needing spots.

I'm not sure how the whole process works. I know it basically comes down to whoever takes the step I first gets spots first if they're available.

Are the current stats on current clinical sites true? Why is it that we cannot do core roations at hospitals that AUC has 'certified' for elective sites? (especially if there aren't enough spots according to what I got from my conversation today).

So...that comes to the final point. If everyone says there are enough clinical spots open for everyone...where is all this info coming from that I heard today straight from the mouth of a 5th semester?

Any thoughts or input on this matter?

Oh...also...are core roation spots available throughout the year or only once or twice a year? for example, If a certain core rotation lasts 10 weeks...are students entering these rotations every 10 weeks after the current students in them leave?

Thanks.

This is a concern to me because I have heard from other sources that clincals are hard to come by if you are from AUC but them I started reading the boards and everyone assured me that it wasn't true ..... So I applied and was accepted and am now planning on giving up my waitlist spots at several DO schools. I was hoping to do all my clinicals at Kern in Ca or a Providence in Mi if this is not possible I may have to rethink my choice.

Like I stated, this is from a conversation I had today. I have no reason to believe it's NOT true...but I'm not saying this is exactly what's happening. I was hoping to get more input on this specific matter and concern that popped up today.

If from todays conversation is correct, I guess there has been one hospital that was 'opened' for core clinicals in Louisiana and now we have lost it. From the sounds of my conversation...we need to be keeping these places open, or find more sites for the problem that 5th semester is running into.
How about the new 180ish incoming students? Talk about potential problems...

Also...what is the new person supposed to be doing that was hired 'above' Phil Green? How long has this person been on the job? I hear she will be here during the clinical fair.

Here's a spin off question about the clinical fair: the calendar which was in this month's newsletter has the fair down from the 18th-22nd. Why does the schedule only list times for each semester on Monday?

From my understanding...monday is the only time that we will have the 'fair'.

wow..if this is true then I will avoid applying for the jan 05 spot ...

I accidentally replied using the "new message" tab...there is a response in its own category on the auc message forum...

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unless this semster is grossly different from the last 4 that i have looked at the rotation list there are about 50 slots in europe alone plus the 8-10 sites here with typically 4-10 slots each starting every 2-4 months...i will try and get ahold of the list and see but i don't see why this semester would be so different from the last 4...

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If that's the hospital in Lousiana, it's not available anymore. It's either 'closed' for us permanently (meaning they're not renewing the contract), or will soon be.

don't exactly know what happened...