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Old 04-11-2008, 11:46 PM
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KMC recommended for de-accreditation by Medical Council of India

For anyone one this forum who doesnt already know: Kasturba Medical college in India has been on the Medical Council of India's "recommended for de-accreditation" list since 2004. As a consequence their last batch of graduates to be eligible to take USMLE exams was those who graduated from KMC in 2003.

You can verify these facts with ECFMG and a simple google search. It is surprising as Manipal is a TOP notch university in India...so must be some internal politics or money matters...
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As a consequence their last batch of graduates to be eligible to take USMLE exams was those who graduated from KMC in 2003.
1. If this were true, it has absolutely no impact on AUA students or the twinning program since we use AUA's ECFMG code.
2. It's not true. See links below.

The Hindu : Karnataka News : Kasturba Medical College not derecognised: MAHE V-C

IMED - FAIMER International Medical Education Directory - School Details

Before you post stating that these students are ineligible to take the USMLE, why not check with ECFMG first?
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plus, new york lists the school as an approved foreign medical institution.
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For anyone one this forum who doesnt already know: Kasturba Medical college in India has been on the Medical Council of India's "recommended for de-accreditation" list since 2004. As a consequence their last batch of graduates to be eligible to take USMLE exams was those who graduated from KMC in 2003.

You can verify these facts with ECFMG and a simple google search. It is surprising as Manipal is a TOP notch university in India...so must be some internal politics or money matters...
This news is old hat.MCI's move was political.The Supreme Court of India has given a clean chit to KMC, and so has the Ministry of Education.KMC indeed in the top 5 med schools in India.....BUT KMCIC has no legal standing either in India or the US...if a complaint was to be filed by a motivated party...KMCIC will have unfathomable problems. AUA on the other hand is all legit just like KMC.
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.....BUT KMCIC has no legal standing either in India or the US...if a complaint was to be filed by a motivated party...KMCIC will have unfathomable problems. AUA on the other hand is all legit just like KMC.
Not quite sure what this means. KMCIC students become AUA students when coming into the US for 5th Semester and Clinicals. So everything that applies to AUA for approvals and accreditation applies to KMCIC.

Maybe you could clarify what these "problems" could be?
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Sorry , saw the post today, or else would have responded earlier.....OK...

AUA is AUA....KMCIC is KMCIC....so a KMCIC student cannot 'become' a AUA student come 5th sem....without transfering credit from KMCIC to AUA....and that is impossible.

No school can legaly accept KMCIC credits as it (1) Does not have a charter, and (2) Is not IMED listed.

So if AUA accepts thes credits, its not LEGAL! This acceptance of KMCIC credits by AUA is against the norms laid down by ECFMG.

But hey ,I am not a Whistle Blower nor am I a 'motivated party'.......I will just let things go as they go, its not my problem.
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...as for the question what problems could arise...well...I think a KMCIC student may have to repeat sem 1 to sem 4, at a LEGIT med school like KMC or AUA or some other place to pass muster with ECFMG regulations......but since the mood is dont tell and dont ask , thats fine with me...

The moot point is KMCIC is not KMC, nor is it AUA...its a separate entity..
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coolaid: You're using words like "illegal" and "impossible" without actually explaining what you mean and contrary to what our students are doing.

AUA and KMCIC are the same school. One campus in Antigua. One campus in Manipal. Not sure how anyone could conclude KMCIC students would have trouble in transferring into AUA's 5th Semester since they are already AUA/KMCIC students progressing from Manipal to Miami. None of the students who have done it so far have had any problems registering through ECFMG. I can't imagine why they would in the future.
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OK,I have a few questions here...

1)Are KMCIC students presenting AUA transcripts to ecfmg....or are they using KMCIC transcripts?

2)Do KMCIC students let ECFMG know that they did sem 1 thru 4 at Manipal(India), KMCIC and not at AUA,Antigua?

3)Do KMCIC students not misrepresent their position to ECFMG , if they are using AUA transcripts, as AUA is located in Antigua, whereas KMCIC is located in Manipal,India?


4)Will any school in the Carribean accept KMCIC transcripts? Has any school other than AUA ever accepted KMCIC transcripts?

5)Can any documentation be presented that states ECFMG accepts this 'twinning' program or can any documentation be presented that states that ECFMG accepts that AUA has a 'twin' school in India, named KMCIC as AUA equivalent, and hence also accepts this 'swapping of AUA transcripts for KMCIC's transcripts'?
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...I was not going to get involved in this....now I guess I have to write to ECFMG and other med boards and find this riddle....this will take time..but i will be back...and this will cost me my most precious commodity...time...darn...
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