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One more time: AUA and KMCIC are the same school. Same approvals. Same accreditation. Same institution. Same. One school. Two campuses.

I hope my tone doesn't discourage anyone from asking or posting here. Maybe I should take a parent's suggestion and write a "white paper" or something. And it could also be that m lack of patience is simply because I answer these questions all week long and lack the perspective to appreciate the questions.
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One more time: AUA and KMCIC are the same school. Same approvals. Same accreditation. Same institution. Same. One school. Two campuses.

I hope my tone doesn't discourage anyone from asking or posting here. Maybe I should take a parent's suggestion and write a "white paper" or something. And it could also be that m lack of patience is simply because I answer these questions all week long and lack the perspective to appreciate the questions.

Okay, got it. From the bold above, then it would be safe to say that the students studying at KMCIC are registered as AUA students.
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Okay, got it. From the bold above, then it would be safe to say that the students studying at KMCIC are registered as AUA students.
So , is that within the parameters of ECFMG's directives...One school two campuses, one campus in Antigua and the other in India?
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Students first register with ECFMG for Step 1. Try looking up AUA since KMCIC students will be AUA students by that time.
See this is the problem...a KMCIC student 'becomes a AUA student at that time'.......

Right now I am recording Tipton's assertion that when the KMCIC students register with ECFMF they 'submit both KMCIC and AUA transcripts'.......even though Tipton stresses that KMCIC students are .....'AUA students at that time'....sounds a little confusing.

To be fair I will wait till I get my reply from ECFMG......
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So , is that within the parameters of ECFMG's directives...One school two campuses, one campus in Antigua and the other in India?

I think ECFMG doesnt really care that much. They would see AUA, a listed ECFMG school, cover for the KMCIC students and need not look deeper. I would think the concern would be come licensure time. It would be up to individual state or provincial licensing authorities how they would look at this. If you and I are confused about this AUA/KMCIC mix, I wonder what would happen when one of them start probing?
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See this is the problem...a KMCIC student 'becomes a AUA student at that time'.......

Right now I am recording Tipton's assertion that when the KMCIC students register with ECFMF they 'submit both KMCIC and AUA transcripts'.......even though Tipton stresses that KMCIC students are .....'AUA students at that time'....sounds a little confusing.

To be fair I will wait till I get my reply from ECFMG......

It's really up to AUA if they want to accept KMCIC courses for credit.

But a state licensing board may ask for proof that the credited courses were taken at a listed IMED school. They could also ask for proof that the student was at Antigua.
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these are all good questions to ask because regardless of what "relationship" a school forms, regardless of admission standrads and anything else there will be licensing questions, issues, problems or whatever you want to call them because you are either doing 2 years of education in a campus that is outside country of charter if you want to call yourself an AUA student or you are doing 2 years of education in an unchartered med school (KMCIC) what this basically seems to amount to is trying to maneuver students in between being full AUA students and KMC students.

now it will probably not matter for taking the usmle and getting ecgm certified because they are probably just using AUA transcripts it may not come up for residency liocensure and may not even come up in full licensure initially because the fact that a student did basic science in india wil be so burried below usmle scores, rotations, etc that it will probably get by many state boards but eventually it will be reaised and is likely to blow up in the students face..the school already got paid, they got you a degree they could care less....but this has a very bad potential to bite you in the back side unless all angles are cleared with the boards
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these are all good questions to ask because regardless of what "relationship" a school forms, regardless of admission standrads and anything else there will be licensing questions, issues, problems or whatever you want to call them because you are either doing 2 years of education in a campus that is outside country of charter if you want to call yourself an AUA student or you are doing 2 years of education in an unchartered med school (KMCIC) what this basically seems to amount to is trying to maneuver students in between being full AUA students and KMC students.

now it will probably not matter for taking the usmle and getting ecgm certified because they are probably just using AUA transcripts it may not come up for residency liocensure and may not even come up in full licensure initially because the fact that a student did basic science in india wil be so burried below usmle scores, rotations, etc that it will probably get by many state boards but eventually it will be reaised and is likely to blow up in the students face..the school already got paid, they got you a degree they could care less....but this has a very bad potential to bite you in the back side unless all angles are cleared with the boards

yah, agreed.
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Not quite sure what this means. KMCIC students become AUA students when coming into the US for 5th Semester and Clinicals. So everything that applies to AUA for approvals and accreditation applies to KMCIC.

Maybe you could clarify what these "problems" could be?
...well one problem could be that AUA will have problems with CA certfication.....because I think AUA forgot to mention about the twinning program to CA Med board....wow.
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