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    The Truth About Our Lady of Fatima

    I write this message to warn all incoming first year American students. Don't do it!

    And if you recently finished your first or second year - get out, these will be the only classes that can possibly transfer in to other graduate programs. Save yourself the time and heartache.

    I graduated from Fatima a few years ago with a Doctor of Medicine. Afterwards I spent the next year and a half prepping and I did well on USMLE Step 1, Step 2CK and Step 2CS. I applied for every residency that was international friendly via the match program for two years. I was not given a single interview, nor were my classmates from what I had heard.

    I spent the following year working at as a practical nurse with insurmountable loans, applying to jobs and other graduate schools and I finally got in to a Physician's Assistant program recently and feel like I have new lease on my medical aspirations.

    The one thing I am happy about is my experience and the great friends I made, nothing else. I graduated from a batch of students that was 45 students strong, most of them Americans. None of them us are licensed physicians, maybe 10 of us actually took the USMLE exams not that it's mattered. I wouldn't even put M.D. behind my name.

    Here is how the place works

    You have a bachelor's degree, you're willing to pay a donation fee, you're willing to pay 200% greater than Filipino student tuition and you are in, spproved, you're in medical school, yah!

    During first year, you join an eager group of international students, all planning on taking the USMLE. Then it begins, long hours of mundane lectures sprinkled with some awful laboratories. You take 1-3 daily exams called shifting exams. Then comprehensive exams. If you have the right connections, which you or your peers will develop, you'll find the best sources to procure exam copies. After the school year is over (this time of year), 50% of the students find out they have to take 'remedials' over the summer. You pay a fee and they cram a few topics on each subject in to as little time as possible and everyone passes.

    Some students are able to over this remedial phase either by academic performance or by other means (connections, money, back-door deals). And they continue to do so throughout their medical school lives and from what I gather this sort of thing is still happening.

    2nd year starts. So you move on, you start 2nd year with longer, more mundane lectures, same as the first year. At the end of the year, now a full 75-85% of the students find they are in remedial classes and spend that following summer taking remedial classes. Remedial or no remedial, all us eager first year students had no intention of taking USMLE anymore because we simply didn't have the education to pass the exam. And the few that thought they were ready in my batch, were not permitted to take the exam. Everyone ponies up to pay their remedial fees, school makes more money, we move on to third year.

    3rd year get's more clinically oriented, but very specialized, more in a block format. Some are reasonable, some are verbatim sample copies, some are impossibly difficult, some are for sale. School year ends, 75%-85% of the students pony up for remedials, schools gets more money, on to the final year.

    4th year some students pay big money to (both the school and to clerkship companies) to take rotations in the US that they set up via clerkship agencies. I chose to my 4th year in the Philippines. I did get a lot of clinical experience and I feel I became a proficient clinician during my 4th year. Nonetheless, 4th year in the Philippines is like a year long fraternity hell week. 72 hour shifts, unsanitary conditions, very limited quality control in hospitals, no organized structure, hell year. And the school will find some creative ways to get a few more thousand dollars out of many before you are allowed to pay the very large graduation fee.

    Graduation time, everyone pays a large graduation fee and gets a Doctor of Medicine degree. A lovely group of speeches about how you are the doctors of tomorrow and a lovely ceremony.

    After that, you are home free, study like a mad-woman to do well on the USMLEs, or like most of my former classmates, try for a few months and never take the exam. In my case, never failed a class, I passed the USMLE one exam at a time and was not able to match.

    So I qualified somehow to take the practical nursing exam, and worked for the last 2 years in major university hospital, a blood bank and as a researcher certainly not enough to make payments on the loans I had taken.

    Light at the end of the tunnel - I recently begun a graduate program in the U.S. that has all the qualities a medical institution should have, it's the polar opposite of Our Lady of Fatima. Not technology or a clear path to licensing, but instructors and staff that care about the future of their students. It's not medical school, but it trumps everything that Our Lady of Fatima had to offer.

    I stay in touch with my classmates from Fatima and we were recently talking to a current student, Fatima College of Medicine has not changed one bit. They don't care about you while you are in school, they are profiteers and after you've graduated you are total fodder that the registrar wants nothing to do with.

    I'm still in tears that I got in to a program I did after Fatima hell.

    If you've read this and you plan to enroll in Fatima or are enrolled and plan to continue beyond your first year, that's what you can expect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mass Effect View Post
    Thanks for the update sss2g2. Do you know what specialties and whether these students rotated in the states?
    i know 1 american from special class and 1 from local class matched into IM. GA and AZ

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    Multiple matches this year. So it seems to me that you are just bitter about the outcome yourself and your class had.

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    Hi! I am sorry to hear what you have been through, can I ask if this true that all filipino med schools are like this or was it only your school?

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