Thread: College of medical Sciences - Chitwan Nepal ??

How is this medical college ? Is there anyone who studied here or anyone who know about this college ?

http://www.cmsnepal.edu.np/

Anyone ??

Ribbo I will ask a question as well I couldnt see anything about tuition in their website.. dont they have tuition? No info about it!

Also I found some grammatical and spelling errors, which doesnt give a positive opinion about a school for me.
And admission for foreign students is without an exam?.. makes the school look weak (again for me). Exam is a life time measurement to mirror you to yourself, they are to help you understand where you are weak and where strong.. to admit everybody with 50% A-level GPA .. may be I misinterpret the stuff.. what do you think?

Bidiboom, yes I agree with you about somethings.

I sent them an email and they sent me their broucher. It costs US $ 55000 it said.

And as for the "not having an entrance exam" issue, I think it doesn't matter that much. Because you see.. Kasturba medical college in India... its ranked one of the best in India and it doesn't ( or didn't until recently ) have any entrance exam. But the quality doesn't get lower because of that, does it? .. well.. that's only my opinion . And here I am not talking about entrance exams like A/L ...etc.

As for the GPA , i don't know. I too think it would be good if there acceptance GPA is of higher standard but....

Do you think medical colleges are of lower standard, and weak because of their 50% GPA ?

I am looking a bit about Nepal because a professor told me that the number patients per doctor is quite high there, meaning that there might be a chance for good clinicals . I am STILL searching for it that's why I posted the question here to know more.

In some countries there are only about 5-8 patients or less a day which I think is not a good number. In my country its about 20-25 patients and the cases vary so much in different ways, but that doesn't mean we have huge health issues. Only that people tend to put a lot of trust towards government hospitals than private ones. So medical students in public universities can have a great clinical practice. I need to go to somewhere where I can get a good practice as well... I guess we need to know this information from a student of a college he/she is attending.

I know you also are looking for colleges with good clinical exposure as well as me because I followed up some of your threads before.
So... what do you think ?

Kasturba Medical college does have an entrance exam. I gave it myself. And believe me when I say that its not easy to get a seat in medicine in India. 2-5,00,000 applicants fight over barely 50,000 medical seats. You do the math. And the high school grades we receive are in no way a scale to judge the students because preparing for medical entrance exams in India is a different ball game altogether. We have to juggle out time between studying for school and preparing ourselves for these entrance exams. Only the best of the best get through these exams. There are many unworthy candidates who get through because of reservations,poilitics and financial muscle but the majority of students who get through deserve to be doctors. After all, Indian doctors are considered to be among the best in the world.

Originally Posted by abhishek.the.devil

Kasturba Medical college does have an entrance exam. I gave it myself. And believe me when I say that its not easy to get a seat in medicine in India. 2-5,00,000 applicants fight over barely 50,000 medical seats. You do the math. And the high school grades we receive are in no way a scale to judge the students because preparing for medical entrance exams in India is a different ball game altogether. We have to juggle out time between studying for school and preparing ourselves for these entrance exams. Only the best of the best get through these exams. There are many unworthy candidates who get through because of reservations,poilitics and financial muscle but the majority of students who get through deserve to be doctors. After all, Indian doctors are considered to be among the best in the world.

Please don't take any offense. I didn't say anything bad about Indian medical colleges. I respect them with all my heart, because I know that Indian medical education is one of the best in the world.

About GPA, I did not write it to offend the country. I know its hard as hell to go to medicine in India ( well.. its a big country with a lot of people. And believe me I have experience. In Sri Lanka ,for the whole country there are only 1165 places for medicine for 180,000 applicants ) In some of your medical colleges websites, in foreign admission page, I have seen the minimum requirement as 60% mostly of PCB.
So since bidiboom mentioned that admitting 50% GPA students is , I just asked what his opinion was about it because it doesn't make the education standard lower just because its GPA requirement is %. Please don't misunderstand.

abhishek.the.devil when i was reading your reply I felt like you took offense in regard to what I said. By any means, I did not mean to offend your country or anyone else!!!! Hope you understand what i was trying to say.


*EDIT: One of my older friends went to Manipal a few years ago when there was no entrance exam. So that's why I thought there were no entrance exams.

Hey Ribbo,
Chill buddy. I'm just trying to clear these misconceptions that others may share with you. Manipal had entrances even back then. But all private colleges like Manipal have a quota of "management seats" for which people pay obscene amounts of money and get to skip the entrance. Now for the last couple of years even Manipal has done away with this system and only admits students on the basis of their ranking in the merit list. But almost all other private colleges are still using this system.
And the 50% score required is a minimum to be eligible to give entrance exams. This does not mean that a candidate with 50% marks gets admission into a college. He/she still has to work their bum off for at least 2-3 years to be competent enough to get a seat. Or their parents should be damn wealthy to afford the private colleges which charge anywhere between 100-150,000 USD.
Anyways, I know your intentions were not to offend anyone. I'm just trying to give you a clear picture of our situation here.

Originally Posted by abhishek.the.devil

Hey Ribbo,
Chill buddy. I'm just trying to clear these misconceptions that others may share with you. Manipal had entrances even back then. But all private colleges like Manipal have a quota of "management seats" for which people pay obscene amounts of money and get to skip the entrance. Now for the last couple of years even Manipal has done away with this system and only admits students on the basis of their ranking in the merit list. But almost all other private colleges are still using this system.
And the 50% score required is a minimum to be eligible to give entrance exams. This does not mean that a candidate with 50% marks gets admission into a college. He/she still has to work their bum off for at least 2-3 years to be competent enough to get a seat. Or their parents should be damn wealthy to afford the private colleges which charge anywhere between 100-150,000 USD.
Anyways, I know your intentions were not to offend anyone. I'm just trying to give you a clear picture of our situation here.

Oh good ! No worries at all !!! I have seen some arguments going on in some forums about different topics, I just got a bit riled up that this was taking a wrong turn. lol

Anyway, thanks for clearing that up ! I clearly had wrong information coming about these entrance exam thing ...

Originally Posted by Ribbo

Bidiboom, yes I agree with you about somethings.

I sent them an email and they sent me their broucher. It costs US $ 55000 it said.

And as for the "not having an entrance exam" issue, I think it doesn't matter that much. Because you see.. Kasturba medical college in India... its ranked one of the best in India and it doesn't ( or didn't until recently ) have any entrance exam. But the quality doesn't get lower because of that, does it? .. well.. that's only my opinion . And here I am not talking about entrance exams like A/L ...etc.

As for the GPA , i don't know. I too think it would be good if there acceptance GPA is of higher standard but....

Do you think medical colleges are of lower standard, and weak because of their 50% GPA ?

I am looking a bit about Nepal because a professor told me that the number patients per doctor is quite high there, meaning that there might be a chance for good clinicals . I am STILL searching for it that's why I posted the question here to know more.

In some countries there are only about 5-8 patients or less a day which I think is not a good number. In my country its about 20-25 patients and the cases vary so much in different ways, but that doesn't mean we have huge health issues. Only that people tend to put a lot of trust towards government hospitals than private ones. So medical students in public universities can have a great clinical practice. I need to go to somewhere where I can get a good practice as well... I guess we need to know this information from a student of a college he/she is attending.

I know you also are looking for colleges with good clinical exposure as well as me because I followed up some of your threads before.
So... what do you think ?

Ribbo, I think better quality attracts more people, and a good school is good because they can teach/support all of their students, good.. if they have high population of students, they either need a great infrastructure to provide aalllllllll of the students with a quality education, which means a lot of money (so a lot of tuition), or they will fail in quality. Because of this reason in business world to get big fastly is not wanted, because they cant feed the organization and they begin to fail in addressing the demands of customers, keep all of the structure up and running properly, and customers find more satisfactory solutions with other companies.. in our situation its like transferring to another school.. but the situation of a student is more critical than the situation of a customer: if your school doesnt feed you well in your education, you either learn weakly and pass those years with low quality education and transfer later.. or if you want enough to have a quality education, you must start all over again..

So, if a school is really good, it attracts more students, and to be able to keep their quality at the same level, either they make more investment to be a bigger university (its not the case for Nepal med school I think), or they put a limit to the new student candidates.. because of this reason the universities have exam barriers.. otherwise it would be sooo great for them to have as much students as they can, with their moneys

So lack of exam/interview is a bad thing IMHO. To accept with 50% GPA is the same because of the same reason.. to get your barrier down means you are not demanded and you can accept lower quality students as well..

As for clinical experience, in the countries of societies which have a low-esteem paradigm, to find cadavres, to touch patients, to have limited health resources and exceding patient population may give the med students a good opportunity for clinical exposure.. but! to be able to be in touch with patients doesnt necessarily mean to have good clinical education.. if you dont have sufficient and efficient teachers, if they themselves have problems with their quality as doctors, what can they teach you in clinical stettings? Also if the university is not an expensive/well charging/well investing, how will they teach you high quality, recent tecniques and technologies?

Its a choice question..

Originally Posted by abhishek.the.devil

Kasturba Medical college does have an entrance exam. I gave it myself. And believe me when I say that its not easy to get a seat in medicine in India. 2-5,00,000 applicants fight over barely 50,000 medical seats. You do the math. And the high school grades we receive are in no way a scale to judge the students because preparing for medical entrance exams in India is a different ball game altogether. We have to juggle out time between studying for school and preparing ourselves for these entrance exams. Only the best of the best get through these exams. There are many unworthy candidates who get through because of reservations,poilitics and financial muscle but the majority of students who get through deserve to be doctors. After all, Indian doctors are considered to be among the best in the world.

abishek is there any quality med program in English in India? I mean for intl. candidates?