Thread: Huazhong University of Science & Technology

Hi guys, I was just wondering if the MBBS program at Huazhong University of Science & Technology was a good one. Compared 2 a university like Zhejiang, which would u guys prefer? And is it really possible to practice in your own country (like in Canada) after obtaining a MBBS degree from China? Thanks 4 ur help!

Originally Posted by crayonsrockmarkers

hehe its really nice here tho umair ^^. hurry up and come!! oh yea ive switched to bojjinge apartment, the bigger one with the fingerprint thingy cuz the other one doesnt have kitchen and laundry and im lazy :3. its easy to get lost here cuz most roads look the same...but the campus is like a checkboard so if u keep turning one way or another ull end up on a road u can probably recognize XD. also yes i am awesome, u dnt have to tell me ...but u can tell me anyways! XD kkeke. jk (..or am i? ). try to get big bedsheets or just dont bring any at all...the beds here r like an evil twin size...normal twin..but fattterr! . i went to tongji yesterday and its much smaller and like the in the middle of the city exactly T_T...and the dorms look...like they really need to get new ones haha.

omg memorize some chinese!! i really need to study and be a nerd the first month i think. specially cuz whenever i go out ppl keep thinking im chinese also and they start talking to me T_T. plus i wanna join a club...but i think itll be in chinese, so if i can understand every fifth word,,,,,maybe theyll let me join?? XD yea the reception knows english and when you first come u get a student guide . if u want me to come help...tho i prbably wnt be much help haha...when u get to ur dorm, u will go to this hotel reception that gives u ur room key. the girl's name there is usually ANA. she is kinda shortish and little plumpy with glasses. yea if she is there, she has my number. but she will onli know me as li li (my chinese name...which i did know that i had one O.o).

i can prbably show u wher to buy stuff and banks and the dining halls and stuff...but ull prbly have to ask someone chinese to help when making ur bank account and stuff cuz the workers rarely speak english. oh yea! and my floor is 15! XD try and see if u can get a room there..but idk the rooms r running out fast and thers only single rooms. the guys stay on the left of hte floor and the girls on the right. so if u can get close to my floor, i wnt have to walk as far to come bother u (which, as a fair warning, i will be doing).

ok srry i wrote alot. when u come in the taxi, tell him u have to come through the second gate, not the main one. its faster . today we have to go for physical checkup. registration is over a span of the next two weeks actually. so ur missing something today >//<. i think theyll prbly arrange something for u later tho. we have a class meeting on the 15th so i dnt think we have classes till then. oh yea! thers 5 gyms! ...i still need to find them sorry :

you sound like a bunch of fun wanna be friends? am in dalian

Originally Posted by crayonsrockmarkers

hehe its really nice here tho umair ^^. hurry up and come!! oh yea ive switched to bojjinge apartment, the bigger one with the fingerprint thingy cuz the other one doesnt have kitchen and laundry and im lazy :3. its easy to get lost here cuz most roads look the same...but the campus is like a checkboard so if u keep turning one way or another ull end up on a road u can probably recognize XD. also yes i am awesome, u dnt have to tell me ...but u can tell me anyways! XD kkeke. jk (..or am i? ). try to get big bedsheets or just dont bring any at all...the beds here r like an evil twin size...normal twin..but fattterr! . i went to tongji yesterday and its much smaller and like the in the middle of the city exactly T_T...and the dorms look...like they really need to get new ones haha.

omg memorize some chinese!! i really need to study and be a nerd the first month i think. specially cuz whenever i go out ppl keep thinking im chinese also and they start talking to me T_T. plus i wanna join a club...but i think itll be in chinese, so if i can understand every fifth word,,,,,maybe theyll let me join?? XD yea the reception knows english and when you first come u get a student guide . if u want me to come help...tho i prbably wnt be much help haha...when u get to ur dorm, u will go to this hotel reception that gives u ur room key. the girl's name there is usually ANA. she is kinda shortish and little plumpy with glasses. yea if she is there, she has my number. but she will onli know me as li li (my chinese name...which i did know that i had one O.o).

i can prbably show u wher to buy stuff and banks and the dining halls and stuff...but ull prbly have to ask someone chinese to help when making ur bank account and stuff cuz the workers rarely speak english. oh yea! and my floor is 15! XD try and see if u can get a room there..but idk the rooms r running out fast and thers only single rooms. the guys stay on the left of hte floor and the girls on the right. so if u can get close to my floor, i wnt have to walk as far to come bother u (which, as a fair warning, i will be doing).

ok srry i wrote alot. when u come in the taxi, tell him u have to come through the second gate, not the main one. its faster . today we have to go for physical checkup. registration is over a span of the next two weeks actually. so ur missing something today >//<. i think theyll prbly arrange something for u later tho. we have a class meeting on the 15th so i dnt think we have classes till then. oh yea! thers 5 gyms! ...i still need to find them sorry :

you sound like a bunch of fun wanna be friends? am in dalian

Hi, Im really glad you showed me this. Actually, there has been a lot of this sort of thought going around in my class lately. In fact, last week, 5 thai students left back for thailand.

There are many opinions on this matter, but I'll just give you mine. Perhaps you can also ask more Thai people.
Every year there goes around what is called "HUST rumors", where another rumor pops up about the quality of this school and people get scared. This has happened many times over the past years and our teachers and Mr. Peter, the coordinator has cleared it up many times.

Of course, then the next year, a new rumor pops up. This is the first year that such rumors popped up among the Thai people. Unfortunately, many people did not consult the teachers and just decided to leave.

I have done a little research and talked to students and teachers and this is the conclusion that I have come up with:

1. Many students are scared that the degree in English from this school will not be accepted in Thailand. It has been proved otherwise. The Thai Medical Council actually came in the past years and inspected Tongji and this university and wrote a letter said how 'advanced' this technology was and how it surely would give thai students 'outstanding' quality of education. If you wish to view this letter, you may ask our coordinator, for he showed me himself. peterxu@mail.hust.edu.

2. As for the English, I am surprised that people are complaining so much. This school is certainly a great school in Asia and China. If people are looking for 100% quality English, I suggest that they should otherwise go to a school in an ENGLISH SPEAKING COUNTRY. It is unfair to come to a school knowing that the whole of China speaks in Chinese, that most teacher would most likely be chinese, and yet still expect 100% english. Coming from an english speaking country, I admit that SOME of the the teachers (not necessarily all) have funny pronounciations, but it is not something that is misleading. Should the student listen in class properly and read their textbooks, I see no reason why a student should get confused between 'cornea' and 'korea'. To get 100% english quality, I suggest going to another country. Of course, that also means paying much higher prices. China is well worth the price, I feel. And I am quite content with the english. Even when I lived in American, many different teachers pronounced scientific words differently, but it just takes one google search to find the right pronounciation. This is not something that would make me leave a college.

3. Tongji is a well known hospital that has been around for more than a century (literally). The two hospitals that are owned by the school are also the top two hospitals in the state. This is common knowledge that you can ask random Chinese people as well and they will know. according to ranks, 2012?????_??, our school is top 5 in all of China.

Here, the Chinese teachers teach in mostly chinese so that we can improve our speaking and listening. Many people do not like the fact that we have to learn medicine in both chinese and english. To be honest, I believe that it is up to the student. You rarely see the top students complaining about little things like this. In the end, it all depends on your hard work. And even if you are in the worst school, if you work hard on your own, you will do well on your country's medical examination and will become a good doctor.

I am not planning to stay in China and work here, but I am still very thankful for this opportunity to learn medicine in both english and chinese. Both are the most common languages in the world, and it is incredible to think that I will be able to speak in medical terms in both languages. In my opinion, this makes me a better doctor because I feel that if you know the language, you can connect with patients better.

Of course, this is still my own opinion. There are still many MANY thai students here, and the school really likes thai people because they are hard working. So if there was something so wrong with this school, I'm sure many more would have left by now.

If you feel that the person who is coming here will have trouble with all these points I pointed out, then perhaps it would be better to go to a thai university. I know that there are a couple students who have been writing bad things about the school because they are unhappy (yet they do not leave -.-), but I, who have come from studying in america, am pretty content here.

@ang3l. yes Dalian is also a good university. But I would also like to point out that it is not necessarily better than HUST. It depends on the needs of the person. I have a friend who studies in Dalian and is planning to restart at HUST because he did not like the quality of education and long hours of study. Perhaps for some people long hours is better, it just really depends on the person I think.

Originally Posted by kaewtabo@hotmail.com

Hi crayonsrockmarkers

I want to know true or not because son my friend will go to study there Sep2012

English >> MBBS in China «

Hi, Im really glad you showed me this. Actually, there has been a lot of this sort of thought going around in my class lately. In fact, last week, 5 thai students left back for thailand.
(Wow, 5 students left – there must be something wrong with the school)
There are many opinions on this matter, but I’ll just give you mine. Perhaps you can also ask more Thai people.
(You can ask more thai people and you will know even much worst issues about HUST educational system.)
Every year there goes around what is called “HUST rumors”, where another rumor pops up about the quality of this school and people get scared. This has happened many times over the past years and our teachers and Mr. Peter, the coordinator has cleared it up many times.
(You mean every year there is a rumor about the quality of medical education at HUST? Well, if it is every year, then there is really something wrong. Remember, rumor starts when there is a problem or if they have seen something not right!)
Of course, then the next year, a new rumor pops up. This is the first year that such rumors popped up among the Thai people. Unfortunately, many people did not consult the teachers and just decided to leave.
(It is the first year that this rumor popped up among Thai students because the most senior Thai students at HUST are already in year 4. During year 4, observation in the hospital is a part of the curriculum. When they observed in the hospital, it was only the time they realized the worst part of medical practices in your affiliate hospitals. The cooperating doctor teachers in your hospitals barely speak English. The Chinese they have learnt is totally different from the Chinese medical terms that the doctors are using in the hospital. Who do you think will not go crazy in this manner??)
I have done a little research and talked to students and teachers and this is the conclusion that I have come up with:
(Make sure your research is credible and not bias!)
1. Many students are scared that the degree in English from this school will not be accepted in Thailand. It has been proved otherwise. The Thai Medical Council actually came in the past years and inspected Tongji and this university and wrote a letter said how ‘advanced’ this technology was and how it surely would give thai students ‘outstanding’ quality of education. If you wish to view this letter, you may ask our coordinator, for he showed me himself. peterxu@mail.hust.edu.
(Well, actually because your school is really good at turning black into white, means your school is good at hiding the real facts. Remember no matter how you hide something, in time, it will surely come out and discovered！)
2. As for the English, I am surprised that people are complaining so much. This school is certainly a great school in Asia and China. If people are looking for 100% quality English, I suggest that they should otherwise go to a school in an ENGLISH SPEAKING COUNTRY. It is unfair to come to a school knowing that the whole of China speaks in Chinese, that most teacher would most likely be chinese, and yet still expect 100% english.
(We know that in China definitely the language is Chinese, however, in the admission letter you have given your students, it says that the medium of instruction is English. How can you explain that? Don’t you think it is a form of cheating your students? Why there is a sudden shift from pure English instruction to bilingual instruction? Is it because you have difficulty hiring teachers who speak good English? In order not to be obvious about your problems hiring quality teachers, you give excuses such as shifting the language into a full Chinese will benefit your students etc… Now tell me, how will the Thai students benefit from it? Will they keep on speaking Chinese when they go back in Thailand to practice as doctors? Will they use Chinese in answering the questions in Thai Medical Licensure Exam? Maybe you do not know that in Thailand, the languages used in hospitals are English and Thai! )
Coming from an english speaking country, I admit that SOME of the the teachers (not necessarily all) have funny pronounciations, but it is not something that is misleading. Should the student listen in class properly and read their textbooks, I see no reason why a student should get confused between ‘cornea’ and ‘korea’.
(Do you know the difference of Korea and Cornea? Korea is a country and Cornea is a part of the eye! Now, tell me that it is not misleading. Remember, that most of the students in your school / Thai students are not native English speakers. They are not familiar with the pronunciation of these words! It means they are not aware which is the proper pronunciation of the medical terms, in which, they will follow and rely to the teacher. In Thailand, medical tourism is booming now. In the future if we become doctors in Thailand and we keep saying ‘Korea “ instead of “Cornea”, do you think the patient will understand us? Where would be our credibility as doctors?” These are basic things that a medical professor should know. You do not need to be very fluent in English to know the proper pronunciation of medical terms. If you push the students to learn Chinese, you should also push your medical professors to be prepared and to know how to pronounce the medical terms in English before going to class!
To get 100% english quality, I suggest going to another country. Of course, that also means paying much higher prices.
(Yes, do not worry about that we really plan to transfer to an English speaking country to study medicine. It is more expensive but we are sure of the quality of education.)
China is well worth the price, I feel.
(Yes, China is worth the price. It is absolutely true. You pay cheaper tuition fee and in return , you also get cheap quality medical education!)
And I am quite content with the english. Even when I lived in American, many different teachers pronounced scientific words differently,
(In America, they pronounce different scientific words differently but they are still in the context of so called “standard English pronounciation”It means they pronounce differently but the meaning is still the same. Try to say Korea instead of Cornea in America and ask the Americans if the meaning are the same!’)
but it just takes one google search to find the right pronounciation.
(Don’t you think it is the primary responsibility of the teacher to know the proper pronounciation of the medical words? A teacher should be ready before going to class! Remember wrong input to students will affect the next and next generations because they will keep on passing these wrong concepts.)
This is not something that would make me leave a college.
(If this is something that won’t make you leave Tongji then it is your choice but remember regret always comes at the end!?)
3. Tongji is a well known hospital that has been around for more than a century (literally). The two hospitals that are owned by the school are also the top two hospitals in the state. This is common knowledge that you can ask random Chinese people as well and they will know. according to ranks, 2012?????_??, our school is top 5 in all of China.
(If you say Tongji is a top hospital in China, then should I be scared? If Tongji hospital is top, how about the quality of smaller hospitals? Tongji hospital and Union hospital just look nice outside but when you get inside you will think whether you are in a hospital, storage room, casino, supermarket or bus terminal! The following facts are for you to ponder whether it suits the term “top hospital:
- In Tongji hospital and Union hospital, most of the English names of the departments are misspelled or terms wrongly used!
- People spit everywhere in the hospitals!
- When you go for a consultation, there is no sense of privacy for the patient. Other people watch as the doctor examines you!
- Some doctors/medical practitioners working in the hospital wear dirty uniforms. Instead of white medical uniform, it turns to a dirty white or brown uniform!
- Some doctors examine patient without wearing hand gloves or even washing his hand! I have an encounter where the doctor put his hand in the mouth of a patient without washing his hands! Makes me feel I want to vomit!
- If you are a foreign patient and you consult with a doctor, doctor can not even tell your sickness/disease in English medical terms!
-Poor sanitary practices, trashes are everywhere in the hospital vicinity
To sum it up, Tongji hospital and Union hospital lack system. The doctors in Union hospital and Tongji hospital are not even aware of who are the medical student observers when you go there! Now tell me, is this a good training ground for future doctors?
Here, the Chinese teachers teach in mostly chinese so that we can improve our speaking and listening.
(What is the use for Thai medical students? Are we going to speak Chinese when we go back to Thailand? Are we going to write the medical reports in Chinese when we go back to Thailand? If you were only very honest to us before that the medium of instruction is not English then we should have not enrolled at HUST. It is a clear violation of the admission letter that you gave us, which stated that the medium of instruction is English.)
Many people do not like the fact that we have to learn medicine in both chinese and english.
(It is not about learning both Chinese and English. We did not say we do not like it.The question here is the promise you wrote in the admission letter that the sole medium of instruction is English! It is hard to be learning medicine at the same time learning a new language. Instead of focusing your attention in learning medical principles, your attention will be divided with learning a foreign language!)
To be honest, I believe that it is up to the student. You rarely see the top students complaining about little things like this. In the end, it all depends on your hard work. And even if you are in the worst school, if you work hard on your own, you will do well on your country’s medical examination and will become a good doctor.
(How can you work hard on your own if you are not able to learn the appropriate medical principles in your school? I would rather study in a school which is strict even if I fail many subjects rather than studying in a school with low quality of education, where it is uncertain whether I can get a doctor license after graduating!)
I am not planning to stay in China and work here, but I am still very thankful for this opportunity to learn medicine in both english and chinese. Both are the most common languages in the world, and it is incredible to think that I will be able to speak in medical terms in both languages. In my opinion, this makes me a better doctor because I feel that if you know the language, you can connect with patients better.
(Well, you are right Chinese is one of the most commonly spoken languages in the world! But do you think I’ll use it oftenly in the hospital when I go back to my country? Will I be speaking Chinese when I treat patients? Will I be writing medical reports in Chinese? When HUST offers international medical education program, they should make sure that the education quality suits international medical education standards and not only Chinese medical standards, after all, we won’t be practicing in China!)
Of course, this is still my own opinion. There are still many MANY thai students here, and the school really likes thai people because they are hard working. So if there was something so wrong with this school, I’m sure many more would have left by now.
(Yes, Thai people are hardworking that is why we can not accept that we get nothing for studying here. Imagine how difficult it is to be away from your family, missing important family occasions but in return we got nothing for our sacrifices! Actually, more Thai students will leave, they are just waiting for their admission letters in medical schools in other countries where they have applied, so do not be confident in saying that only few students will leave!)
If you feel that the person who is coming here will have trouble with all these points I pointed out, then perhaps it would be better to go to a thai university. I know that there are a couple students who have been writing bad things about the school because they are unhappy (yet they do not leave -.-), but I, who have come from studying in america, am pretty content here.
(Do not say that a couple of students are writing bad about the school because they are writing facts about the school! There is a clear distinction between the words “bad” and “fact”. What students are writing are facts, based from evidences they have gathered and based from experiences they had in the school, so it is inappropriate to say “bad” words! By the way, are you sure that these students who are saying factual things about HUST haven’t left?? Please verify it first before writing or else it will be branded as hearsay! )
@ang3l. yes Dalian is also a good university. But I would also like to point out that it is not necessarily better than HUST. It depends on the needs of the person. I have a friend who studies in Dalian and is planning to restart at HUST because he did not like the quality of education and long hours of study. Perhaps for some people long hours is better, it just really depends on the person I think.
(To @ang31, better go back to your country if you plan to study at HUST, please do not waste your time or before studying at HUST better see the school and Tongji hospital first, then decide whether you want to study there or not! Try to see how “WORLDCLASS” their hospital is, lol! Try to see how clean their hospital there where there is no clear hospital policies and people spitting everywhere”

By the way, as a conclusion, I do not think this article was written by an American student. I have stayed for such a long time at HUST and I do not think there is an American student here. Besides, I do not think Americans will study in your school as medical students considering the poorly structured curriculum you have, the quality of teachers you have and the kind of practices in your affiliate hospitals! If this article was written by a so called “American student” if he/she really exist, I do not think he/she would be very knowledgeable about these issues! It seems the writer of this letter knows so many things about HUST! If you think that by pretending as an American student your letter will be very credible and will let other believe what you have written, you are totally wrong! I wasn’t born yesterday not to identify which is a fake letter from a real one!

P.S. Next time, when you write comments/letter, please make sure it is convincing and believable that you are a student! As I’ve said, I was not born yesterday! If your letter is logically analyzed, I would conclude that indeed it was not written by a student!
Cheers!!!!

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[QUOTE=docjin;1449186]Hi, Im really glad you showed me this. Actually, there has been a lot of this sort of thought going around in my class lately. In fact, last week, 5 thai students left back for thailand.
(Wow, 5 students left – there must be something wrong with the school
Hello DocJin, you were quite aggressive in your attacks on HUST, but dont sit there and act like you have 100% credibility in what you have to say, because guess what, I'm an American, and I have a U.S. passport, and oh yeah, theres 2 more American friends in my MBBS year, and thats ONLY my year, so GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT before you go on attacking the integrity of other persons' opinions. Hence, it is very logical for one to question the validity of another's words when the latter has so simply mistaken what he claims to be facts. And 5 students left, so what? You're going to create a contention that questions the education of a program based on a 5% statistic? I've taken higher level statistics courses, referred to as AP (college level) Stats, in high school, and 5% statistic would be something called an outlier. You know what an outlier is? Its something that is of very insignificant value. Do you know what the difference is between insignificant and significant Mr. Korea/Cornea? Also, that 5% were all Thai people, that happened to know each other and were friends. All friends, choosing to leave together, thats called bias. Just something to ponder about for you people getting freaked out about quitting the university.
There are many opinions on this matter, but I’ll just give you mine. Perhaps you can also ask more Thai people.
(You can ask more thai people and you will know even much worst issues about HUST educational system. Asking more thai people is just basically asking the same person all over again, try getting different peoples' views, such as an AMERICAN.
Every year there goes around what is called “HUST rumors”, where another rumor pops up about the quality of this school and people get scared. This has happened many times over the past years and our teachers and Mr. Peter, the coordinator has cleared it up many times.
(You mean every year there is a rumor about the quality of medical education at HUST? Well, if it is every year, then there is really something wrong. Remember, rumor starts when there is a problem or if they have seen something not right!
Hate to break it to you, but rumors are called rumors for a reason, and more often than not, they're a bunch of bullpooh pooh. I can easily create a rumor that someone named docjin is going around attacking HUST because he/she found it too hard or that it simply did appeal to their specific tastes, so now they're just ranting and making up bullpooh pooh. This is qualified as a rumor.

I have some more to add, but I'm a bit sleepy. I may or may not get back to you docjin, but if i dont, its unfair to attack HUST so vigorously when this university is above many other universities, and those same many others have given out/or currently are giving MBBS degrees to thousands of people graduating this year or the next. And I have no beef with you by the way, just a difference of opinion. Zaijian!

Hi my name is ahmed khan and i from pakistan. I will be coming to hust in august for bachelor of telecommunication engineering in english medium.i want to ask is how is the university in studying engineering in english medium from hust?how are the teachers? If any other international student is coming please contact me on AHMEDKHAN110@HOTMAIL.COM

[QUOTE=Umair_B123;1449194]

Originally Posted by docjin

Hi, Im really glad you showed me this. Actually, there has been a lot of this sort of thought going around in my class lately. In fact, last week, 5 thai students left back for thailand.
(Wow, 5 students left – there must be something wrong with the school
Hello DocJin, you were quite aggressive in your attacks on HUST, but dont sit there and act like you have 100% credibility in what you have to say, because guess what, I'm an American, and I have a U.S. passport, and oh yeah, theres 2 more American friends in my MBBS year, and thats ONLY my year, so GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT before you go on attacking the integrity of other persons' opinions. Hence, it is very logical for one to question the validity of another's words when the latter has so simply mistaken what he claims to be facts. And 5 students left, so what? You're going to create a contention that questions the education of a program based on a 5% statistic? I've taken higher level statistics courses, referred to as AP (college level) Stats, in high school, and 5% statistic would be something called an outlier. You know what an outlier is? Its something that is of very insignificant value. Do you know what the difference is between insignificant and significant Mr. Korea/Cornea? Also, that 5% were all Thai people, that happened to know each other and were friends. All friends, choosing to leave together, thats called bias. Just something to ponder about for you people getting freaked out about quitting the university.
There are many opinions on this matter, but I’ll just give you mine. Perhaps you can also ask more Thai people.
(You can ask more thai people and you will know even much worst issues about HUST educational system. Asking more thai people is just basically asking the same person all over again, try getting different peoples' views, such as an AMERICAN.
Every year there goes around what is called “HUST rumors”, where another rumor pops up about the quality of this school and people get scared. This has happened many times over the past years and our teachers and Mr. Peter, the coordinator has cleared it up many times.
(You mean every year there is a rumor about the quality of medical education at HUST? Well, if it is every year, then there is really something wrong. Remember, rumor starts when there is a problem or if they have seen something not right!
Hate to break it to you, but rumors are called rumors for a reason, and more often than not, they're a bunch of bullpooh pooh. I can easily create a rumor that someone named docjin is going around attacking HUST because he/she found it too hard or that it simply did appeal to their specific tastes, so now they're just ranting and making up bullpooh pooh. This is qualified as a rumor.

I have some more to add, but I'm a bit sleepy. I may or may not get back to you docjin, but if i dont, its unfair to attack HUST so vigorously when this university is above many other universities, and those same many others have given out/or currently are giving MBBS degrees to thousands of people graduating this year or the next. And I have no beef with you by the way, just a difference of opinion. Zaijian!

I am not being aggressive about my attacks at HUST, I am just too direct about exposing the loopholes of the medical educational system at HUST. I understand why you are defending HUST maybe you are freshmen or sophomore student at HUST so you pretty haven’t experienced about the negative side of the medical education system there. I am almost about to finish my studies at HUST when I decided to quit but I do not regret it. It is better to leave rather than wasting my time there. Well, everyone is entitled to his/her opinion so I respect your ideas but it does not mean I am accepting it.

By the way, I would like to correct what was written before on how many Thai students left, not only 5 students left, as of the moment, there are around 30 Thai students who have left already and it is expected that there will be more in the coming weeks as most of them are waiting for their admission letters in medical schools in other countries. If you have taken higher statistics courses, I also did, so basically I know what I am talking about so you do not need to explain what statistics is!

Those Thai students who have left HUST are not necessarily friends. They just realized that staying at HUST will not make them a licensed doctor in Thailand because of the poor quality of medical educational system they offer and a perfect example of this are the teachers at HUST! Those who have left come from different levels. When they chose to leave together, it means to say that they share the same ideas and perspective about the substandard educational quality at HUST, it is not being bias. As a matter of fact, I have talked to some students who are in their last years and they regret staying at HUST. They said they are already in year 5 but it seems they haven’t learned anything.

By the way, what is your basis that the Thai students who left are close friends. Are they your friends? Do you know what is going on with them? Do you think all those 30 students from year 1 to year 4 are friends? I doubt if you really know them very well!

Maybe you haven’t gone to the affiliate hospitals of HUST, like Tongji hospital and Union hospital, go and check it so you’ll know what I am talking about. If you are really knowleadgable about the standard medical practices, you’ll know what I am saying. Prior to studying medicine, I worked in a hospital so I have enough knowledge to identify the medical malpractices in their affiliate hospitals. If you need some video evidences about the malpractices of some of the medical professionals at Tongji Hospital and Union Hospital, just let me know and I can share it to you!

The people who quit at HUST are not freak. They are just smart enough to save themselves earlier rather than wasting their time and their parents money studying at HUST. Studying abroad needs a lot of money so we have to be careful about the school that we are choosing. We are amenable that studying at HUST is the biggest mistake that we have done for our career building but it is not yet too late to quit and to start all over again. It took us time to decide and to consider all factors before quitting. We were objective in weighing the advantages and disavantages of studying at HUST but sadly, disadvantages overpower the advantages, so we decided to leave. If you really want to be a great doctor and do not just have the mentality of finishing medical education, I think you’ll be critical in considering all factors towards being a successful doctor in the future.
I asked those other Thai people to ask those Thai students studying at HUST about the quality of education because we know what we need to pass and what we need to have when we go back to Thailand to practice as doctors. Unfortunately, HUST doesn’t satisfy the things and the professional knowledge that we need in order to be a certified doctor in Thailand. I won’t be saying all these facts if I do not have strong evidences to support my arguments.
The bottomline is that HUST violated what is in the admission letter they have given us. In the admission letter, it was stated that the sole medium of instruction is English. But it turns out that they gave us teachers who don’t even speak decent English!

I do not want to use the words attacking HUST. I think it is better to use the words “exposing the anomalies of the medical education at HUST”. I am doing all these things because I want to save all those future Thai students who want to study there. I do not think studying medicine at HUST is difficult, actually I did a thorough research and found out that HUST MBBS curriculum is substandard compared to the curriculum of MBBS in other countries! The advertisement of HUST MBBS program is too good to be true. I was also a victim of that before!

My advice to those future students especially Thai students wanting to study MBBS at HUST, please go and check the school and its affiliate hospitals first. You need to make a thorough research about the school. Don’t be carried away with the advertisements that you see, oftenly, there are more lies than truth in advertisement. Do not pay the tuition fees to the agency/school until you are decided to finally study there, otherwise, you’ll have difficult time refunding your money once you decide not to pursue your studies there. Studying abroad needs a lot of money, a lot of sacrifices and a lot of hardwork, so please make a smart decision in choosing the right medical school for you! I have learned my lessons and I do not want you to experience what I have gone through!

Finally, to all Thai students at HUST, to all prospective students and to all parents, I am not trying to persuade you to believe me. You have to weigh all factors objectively! I have written all these things for you to ponder whether to study at HUST or not. I just hope you’ll use your wisdom in judging and deciding what is best for you or for you loved ones, not just for your career but for the future of the medical system in our country. I will leave a famous quotation by ***** Russell for you to reflect on, “The hardest thing to learn in life is which bridge to cross and which to burn. Good decisions come from experience and experience comes from bad decisions.”
I do not want to say so much things anymore. I feel that I have shared everything that I know, so it is up for you guys to decide.

Thank you very much and I wish you success in your chosen fields of endeavors!