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Old 08-31-2009, 11:39 AM
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OTDs are required to pass Occupational English Test (OET) and achieve a score not lower than 'B' in order to register in Australia to become a GP or specialist.

Does anyone know about this? How difficult to score 'B' with OET? I am almost sure even graduates from the English-taught MBBS program of Fudan Medical College have to go through this test in Australia.

I honestly wish this program can one day be recognized by AMC directly as medical schools in US/UK/Canada/NZ, though this is essentially impossible.
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OTDs are required to pass Occupational English Test (OET) and achieve a score not lower than 'B' in order to register in Australia to become a GP or specialist.

Does anyone know about this? How difficult to score 'B' with OET? I am almost sure even graduates from the English-taught MBBS program of Fudan Medical College have to go through this test in Australia.

I honestly wish this program can one day be recognized by AMC directly as medical schools in US/UK/Canada/NZ, though this is essentially impossible.
As an Australian who is studying abroad, and has been researching the various requirements for practicing in Australia for some time now - i would suggest that you stay in Australia if you can, or atleast do your undergraduate there.

Even if your an Australian citizen and you study abroad, you will still have to pass the "OET" with a good score. Sometimes they might consider scores derived from TOFLE or IELTS exams also.

It is generally irrelevant if english is the median language of teaching, the important thing in Australia is being able to speak fluent, non-terminating english with the proper medical 'lingo'. However, sure - it does help if the medium language of teaching was english.

And your right, the AMC will probably never accreddit schools abroad. However, if you pass the USMLE, are properly liscenced in the USA and have done 2 years of graduate medical study - then you are automatically qualified to practice in Australia without any AMC assessment.

If you do study abroad, consider working and studying in the US after graduating to ease your transition into Australia.
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Thanks, I truly need comprehensive opinions, positive as well as negative, to help me making the final decision. As we all know, this would be a huge investment of money and time.

Of course it should be best to register in Australia, however I have alternative options as well, Shanghai, Singapore, Taiwan are all included in my consideration. If possible, yes, why not US through USMLE? Though it seems even harder.

Personally I don't prefer to live in Australia. As Asian I have confronted enough racists here. It is obviously more dangerous than US/Canada/UK, where ppl are usually decent and polite apparently. Therefore, to me any opportunities to practise after graduation and qualification examination provided in some developed regions in Asia are excellent as well.
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Thanks, I truly need comprehensive opinions, positive as well as negative, to help me making the final decision. As we all know, this would be a huge investment of money and time.

Of course it should be best to register in Australia, however I have alternative options as well, Shanghai, Singapore, Taiwan are all included in my consideration. If possible, yes, why not US through USMLE? Though it seems even harder.

Personally I don't prefer to live in Australia. As Asian I have confronted enough racists here. It is obviously more dangerous than US/Canada/UK, where ppl are usually decent and polite apparently. Therefore, to me any opportunities to practise after graduation and qualification examination provided in some developed regions in Asia are excellent as well.
Yeah, i understand how you feel since i'm in the same boat. It is hard to qualify for medicine in Australia - apparantly the standards are at par with the US. Generally speaking UQ normally accepts new students with a gpa of 3.5 and a MCAT of 30+ and with a score like that you could land your self into a good med school anywhere really.

Australia has its perks if your willing to practice there. They are paid generously (in AUD that is, it's not a great conversion if compared to US$ thogh). Average salary of a GP in aus is about $100-120 an hour in private clinics (AUD obviously, not USD). If your an Asian you might like studying in Asia, however i think that will depend on you more than anything else. Singapore seems like a good choice, however i'm not sure of how hard it is to enroll in a school there - but i imagine it would be competitive.

I have been to different cities in the UK and America, and i would say that they rank quite closely in terms of safety. Sure in Australia there is a little bit of racism, but i've learnt that racism prevails everywhere - even in Asia.

If you're on a budget and are looking for an affordable way to study medicine in an english speaking environment then check out some universities in the Philippines.

If you have anymore questions, feel free to message/pm me .
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Many thanks for your opening and friendliness.

Yes, my financial situation does not permit me to study in Australia or Singapore in the first place. I am from Shanghai, China and I feel confident in this country rather than Philippines whose medical schools should not be more recognised than good ones in China such as Fudan. Please correct if my understanding is wrong.

In my plan Shanghai Medical College of Fudan University is my first consideration, probably there will be more English taught medical programs such like 4-year graduate level entrance ones, not sure now.

Well that's a long story. When I left school at 18 it was not difficult at all for me to enter any medical college in China (except one that is Beijing Union Medical College). Anyway I chose to study science rather than medicine. Actually in the first semester in Uni I started to regret...I've not proved a talented scientist, not at all, though imaginarily to give direct help to others on basis of what I'd learned from medical school could bring me enormous pleasure and satisfaction. One's happiness depends what he/she can give others rather than what he/she can obtain from them, or from so-called achievements published in papers that nobody except a dozen of researchers take interest in and spend time to read carefully.
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Regarding to a practice in Singapore,if you get a MBBS from Fudan or from one of other six or seven unis in China and then get registered in China, you will be qualified to practise there without any need to pass any further exams ( remember... Singaporeans speak both Chinese and English). Check it out at the website of Singapore Medical Council (" SMC") through Google for more info. No med school from Carriibian or the Philippines is recognised by SMC

If a wish to become a doctor is first driven by $$$, one will regret all his/her life. Believe me.
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