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    miteshssa is offline Newbie 510 points
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    Studying Med in the Philippines

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    Hey guys,

    I was surfing around and would like to share with you this information on studying Medicine (MBBS) in the Philippines.

    From what I read Philippines is well recognised and their curriculum follows the latest US based systems. Apart from that itís worldwide recognised for a high overall literacy rate with a majority of the population which is English speaking.

    It has some of the most affordable programs available in the world and has many accredited state and private universities which are renowned worldwide. As all courses are taught in English, you will have the opportunity to earn US academic credit while continuing your studies in any of hundreds of courses from dozens of subject areas.

    On top of that if you want to start a medical career in the US, medical licensing and USMLE (United States Medical Licensing Examination) test preparation is covered in most of the courses. So itís easy to get a kickstart on your career too!

    There is one firm some of my friends have gone under, called HCMI and they have affiliations with many universities. Some are as follows: University of Northern Philippines, Cagayan State University,Fatima University.

    All HCMI affiliated Philippine Medical Programs are accredited by the Commission on Higher Education (CHED) and all HCMI affiliated medical universities are fully recognized and listed by both the World Health Organization (WHO) and the Educational Council for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG), as approved medical schools, thus, permitting all Medical University students/graduates to sit for the USMLE.

    So what happens after you have completed your degree?

    We all know getting a degree is not enoughÖu still need to be licensed to practice medicine in any country.

    We know for example in US, each state has its own requirements and the system is pretty complex and varies from state to state, but my friends who went through HCMI, they were given a lot of advise and assistance to sit through the licensing phase.

    Those interested can find out more at hcmieducation.com

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    From what I read Philippines is well recognised and their curriculum follows the latest US based systems. Apart from that itís worldwide recognised for a high overall literacy rate with a majority of the population which is English speaking.
    Philippines medical schools dont use US cirriculum.
    I don't know what schools are you talking about? I should know I went to FEU. Although, we use the same text books, but the cirriculum is far from USA. If u dont believe me, just go to any US medical school website and look at its schedule and compares to PI medical schools. Furthermore, if you want to investigate more into the subject, you can print out syllabus and compare. The fact about USMLE for PI grad is most of PI grads have to take 6-12months off after graduation to study for it compare to US grads-4-8weeks prep times- or even the big three Carribbean med schools.

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    You just gave one of many reasons why potential students should be wary of agent(s) promoting their schools.

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    The MBBS programs in Phil schools are NEW programs by an Indian company (HCMI). They took advantage of the lack of interest for medical applicants among Filipinos and made tie-ups with some Philippine schools. I think it helps the schools too as they can get extra cash from the students but I cynically view it as money-making schemes. Among their school affiliations the only established ones are few like Fatima and DMSF (Davao). Even if you use the same books or curriculum, they WILL NOT prepare you for USMLE. It's a matter of teaching what is important to emphasize within the curriculum or make USMLE type of questions.

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    usmle

    the philippine schools do not promote usmle, neither do they have to. this is not the usa. we come here as guess to study, we are not forced. the curriculum is taught based on health care needs for this country,we are guess here, they know that,they don't have to cater to our specific needs, but if our needs are met in the process OK, BUT REMEMBER IF YOU COME HERE TO STUDY...YOU ARE GUESS...IF THAT'S REMEMBERED YOU WILL BE FINE.....ANY OTHER PERSONAL EXPECTATIONS....YOU WILL BE IN FOR A RUDE AWAKNING...OUR USMLE IS NOT THIER CONCERN...THEY HAVE BIGGER AND LARGER FISH TO FRY.....SUCH AS THEIR OWN HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND BASIC NEEDS OF THE STUDENTS WHOM FAMILIES SUPPORT THE SCHOOLS WITH THEIR TAX DOLLARS, NOT OURS....PUT THE SHOES ON YOUR FEET.....DO AMERICAN SCHOOLS CATER TO FOREIGN BOARDS? THEN NO ONE HAS TO CHANGE THEIR CURRICULUMS TO FIT OURS.......THESE SCHOOLS GIVE US OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ACCEPTED WHEN WE ARE NOT ACCEPTED BY OUR OWN SCHOOLS.....THAT'S THE TRUTH, LIKE IT OR NOT......USMLE YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN.....LOOKING FOR ANYTHING ELSE HERE....YOU'RE IN FOR YOUR WORSE NIGHTMARE!!!! USMLE YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN....TAKE IT FIRST HAND FROM SOMEONE WHO KNOWS....

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    I agree with all the things you said except one thing. As far as I know Fatima has a foreign class unlike FEU where I studied in one class (local and foreign), So what sense does it make for FU to force their student to study PI cirriculum? Since all the foreign students-i thnk called special class-cant take the PI board, so it's make no sense at all to me. I agree we are all Guests (not Guess, i thnk it's a verb), so we act like ones . Good luck to all.

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    MED in Philippines

    Hello to All!

    I have studied, lived in Manila for the past 7years. Though NOT in the med stream. Currently I am in the process of setting up a student consultancy firm for Med students to China & Philippines. This are some schools I would recommend for foreign students:

    ( Inside / Near Metro Manila)

    1 - Fatima University

    2 - UERMMMC

    3 - FEU-NRMF

    ( Outside Metro Manila )

    4 - Saint Louis University

    5 - Southwestern University

    6 - Cebu Doctors University

    7 - Angeles University Foundation

    Now regarding USMLE - Though they follow US System and Books BUT USMLE is not integrated into the curriculum. So you need to take time -off and do it on your own.

    If you are looking for clerkship in USA you must have high scores in USMLE part 1 & 2, also Fatima would be a very good choice.

    FOREIGN STUDENT FEE is compulsory for all foreigners in Philippines. General line students pay like $100 per semester but in Medicine usually $5000 - $10000. In case of HCMI they are charging around $7000 - $10000. FEU is $6000. Provincial Schools charge less or sometimes non.

    The regular medical degree offered in Philippines is M.D. So they pass from High School then do ** Biology then take NMAT exam and get into medical school. So you see system of intake is different.

    What HCMI has done, partnered w/ some colleges, provided the MBBS curriculum, got CHED recognition so that 10+2 students can enroll directly in Philippines. but remember they only run the MBBS program for HCMI network so its limited in terms student number. Top of the list is Fatima having regular intake.

    My opinion about Philippines, it would be a BETTER choice compared to China / Ukraine because the living cost is low around $100-150 / month, very good faculty and nice environment to study.

    To hunteradam07, lrry, trauma - what country are you guys from ?
    Last edited by mecbd; 01-04-2008 at 10:15 AM.

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    RATIONALE

    1. There is an ongoing crisis in Philippine Medical Education.
    • Nationwide, the number of potential applicants to medical schools (based on the number who took the December National Medical Admission Test) has decreased by more than 50% between 1999 and 2004.
    • Most college students originally intending to enter medical school either shift to nursing after the second year or after completing their first degree.
    • As a result of this, most medical schools will not be financially viable with enrolment below break even numbers.
    • There is a need to find ways to sustain Medical Education with very high standards.
    2. The void left by the above mentioned �crisis� will mean:
    • More places are available for foreign students.
    • More faculty will be idle, hence they will be available to teach foreign students.
    3. The Indian Government, through the Medical Council of India, has recently acknowledged Graduates of Foreign Medical Schools based on the following provisions:
    • The Foreign School is listed under the World Directory of Medical Schools.
    • The Indian Foreign medical graduate must take a screening test to be certified to practice Medicine in India.
    4. Presently, aside from entering Indian Medical Schools, Indian students, numbering in the thousands, study Medicine in Russia, Thailand, China and some East European Countries.


    5. It is about time that the Philippines participate in the export of Quality Medical Education to India, and hopefully other countries.


    6. Export of Quality Medical Education will result in additional income for Philippine medical schools that can result in the following benefits:
    • Sustainability (survival) of the medical schools.
    • Availability of funds to upgrade educational and manpower resources.
    • Availability of funds for more scholarships to financially handicapped but deserving medical students willing to stay and serve the country.
    • Available funds can serve as buffer for Philippine inflation. This may prevent the progressive tuition fee increase vis a vis the increasing cost of operations.
    OUTCOME
    Projected outcome of this program:


    1. On the Indian perspective,
    • To educate, train and develop students to become physicians qualified to practice in India as physicians, researchers or educators.
    • Between 100-200 medical students are expected to complete this program per year.
    • Indian nationals are given an option for quality education not easily accessible to them.
    2. On the Philippine perspective,
    • Vacancies for Philippine Medical schools can be filled up by the students in this program.
    • Available extra income from this project can have the following implications:
        • Reduction in tuition fees for Filipino medical students.
        • More scholarships for poor but deserving Filipino medical students.
        • Better and more attractive compensation for full time faculty, especially for basic medical sciences educators.
        • More funds available for Faculty Development, upgrading of facilities and curriculum development.
        • Additional foreign currency will contribute to the betterment of Philippine Economy.
    • The EXPORT of Philippine Medical Education, once successful, will serve as an EXAMPLE or PILOT for other areas in Education.
    3. Mutual benefits
    This project will be an example of very good cooperation in terms of education between two countries, and will eventually result in more collaborative efforts, i.e. � trade, culture, etc.

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    Hello

    I'm still in the process of completing all of my paperwork for my application to UERM, but when I asked the lady at the registrar whether I can just fax the required documents, she mentioned to me that the deadline for submitting the paperwork was extended to Feb 15, 2008. Hopefully, this is applicable to all UERM potential students.

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    usmle reality

    Quote Originally Posted by hunteradam07 View Post
    I agree with all the things you said except one thing. As far as I know Fatima has a foreign class unlike FEU where I studied in one class (local and foreign), So what sense does it make for FU to force their student to study PI cirriculum? Since all the foreign students-i thnk called special class-cant take the PI board, so it's make no sense at all to me. I agree we are all Guests (not Guess, i thnk it's a verb), so we act like ones . Good luck to all.
    i stand corrected on the spelling......Now you go back and do a little editing....think is spelled THINK, NOT thnk..... so we act like ones....ARE YOU SURE? don't think so....Just a little Laugh.......... FU, wouldn't GO there if they PAID ME, hahahahaha. In the philippines, if you're a foriegner, just keep plenty of pesos, you'll have no problem...... this system is corruption based, don't think otherwise, hahahaha prep on your own. I passed step1 first time......... no credit to PI CURRICULUM, hahahahaha
    Last edited by lrry; 01-04-2008 at 08:13 PM. Reason: spelling

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