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bckwood
01-07-2006, 06:46 PM
Could someone please clarify the 12-week rule in NY.

Thank you.

swimguy23
01-07-2006, 07:52 PM
Could someone please clarify the 12-week rule in NY.

Thank you.

in order to do rotations in NY, you are limited to 12 weeks of new york hospitals.
An exception is if your school has a direct affiliation with a specific hospital in NY, then you can do as many weeks as you want. Once you leave your affiliated hospital you are only allowed 12 weeks of rotations outside that hospital in NY state

Batman007
01-07-2006, 11:36 PM
in order to do rotations in NY, you are limited to 12 weeks of new york hospitals.
An exception is if your school has a direct affiliation with a specific hospital in NY, then you can do as many weeks as you want. Once you leave your affiliated hospital you are only allowed 12 weeks of rotations outside that hospital in NY state

what is the whole reasoning behind the 12 week limit? anybody know?

Miklos
01-08-2006, 08:34 AM
in order to do rotations in NY, you are limited to 12 weeks of new york hospitals.
An exception is if your school has a direct affiliation with a specific hospital in NY, then you can do as many weeks as you want. Once you leave your affiliated hospital you are only allowed 12 weeks of rotations outside that hospital in NY state

You are limited to 12 weeks abroad period, if you want to do a NY residency (though licensure is still possible later, if you do your residency elsewhere and go over the 12 week limit.) Also, in order to get an affiliated hospital, the school must first be approved by NY State. See http://www.op.nysed.gov/medforms.htm (under form 2CC)

what is the whole reasoning behind the 12 week limit? anybody know?

NY relies on IMGs and IMG residents to service much of its population's healthcare needs. It has the highest percentage of residency programs for a single state in the nation (14.1% of all). In order to exert some control over international medical students rotating in NY, while not throwing out the baby with the bathwater by going to a complete ban unless approved (see California), they decided to go a middle route.

swimguy23
01-08-2006, 11:48 AM
You are limited to 12 weeks abroad period, if you want to do a NY residency (though licensure is still possible later, if you do your residency elsewhere and go over the 12 week limit.) Also, in order to get an affiliated hospital, the school must first be approved by NY State. See http://www.op.nysed.gov/medforms.htm (under form 2CC)


I'm not sure if you post is clear for people not knowledgable on the issue.....if your school is NY approved AND has an affiliated hospital you can do all your clerkships there if you wish. If you want to leave your affiliated hospital (say for electives), you are limited to 12 weeks in NY outside your affiliated hospital. If you are not NY approved and/or do not have an affiliated hospital you are limited to 12 weeks.

Miklos
01-08-2006, 01:32 PM
I'm not sure if you post is clear for people not knowledgable on the issue.....if your school is NY approved AND has an affiliated hospital you can do all your clerkships there if you wish. If you want to leave your affiliated hospital (say for electives), you are limited to 12 weeks in NY outside your affiliated hospital. If you are not NY approved and/or do not have an affiliated hospital you are limited to 12 weeks.

Right. Thanks for the clarification. I meant to write something like that, but didn't.

Kirst
01-09-2006, 04:27 AM
for NY unapproved schools like spartan, what's the reasoning behind no residency for licensure?

so if i want to keep my options open for future practice in NY, i should stay clear from NY for residencies despite the fact that NY has so many residency opportunities... should i jump on the residency availabilities, then i'm getting myself into an early ban from NY licensure.

but i keep hearing "rumors" about spartan students who did more than 12 weeks of clinicals in NY, did residency in NY, and now practicing in NY. how does that work???

lyds83
01-09-2006, 07:39 AM
for NY unapproved schools like spartan, what's the reasoning behind no residency for licensure?

so if i want to keep my options open for future practice in NY, i should stay clear from NY for residencies despite the fact that NY has so many residency opportunities... should i jump on the residency availabilities, then i'm getting myself into an early ban from NY licensure.

but i keep hearing "rumors" about spartan students who did more than 12 weeks of clinicals in NY, did residency in NY, and now practicing in NY. how does that work???

Swim guys answer is the right answer, spartan grads can practice in NY no problem, you just cannot do more than 12 weeks of rotations there. You can call them yourself.