GMC (Atlanta, Ga)

[Junito]

Clinical Rotations: Surgery, Internal Medicine, OB/GYN,


Family Practice through Floyd Medical Center


Psychiatry (Site is at East Central Regional Hospitals in Augusta Georgia...Participating institution for Medical College of Georgia Psych Residency Program)

Here is the link: http://www.mcg.edu/SOM/clerkships/Psychiatry/sites.htm (you will not find this on the ACGME website)



Pediatrics (Dekalb Medical Center is a participating institution for Morehouse School of Medicine's Peds Residency Program)


Website: http://www.gmcgroup.org (http://www.valuemd.com/adsadmin/adclick.php?bannerid=4&zoneid=1&source=&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gmcgroup.org%2F)

[unknownmd]

hey,
i am starting my first rotation in Atlanta in june. is anyone else going to Atlanta?

[spyyder]

What hospital? SMU approved or arranged on your own.

nevermind

[dawgfan]

Is it really difficult to get you rotations in Atlanta? I'm an ole' GA boy so I would love to do my rotation in Atl.

[unknownmd]

What hospital? SMU approved or arranged on your own.

nevermind

Its call Dekalb medical center. and SMU set it up for me. is there a way to find out who is going to which rotation??? if not, can someone start a list. thanks.

[Junito]

I found out that the GMC is offering the following rotation sites from AUA's website

http://www.auamed.org/Medical_School_Caribbean/Academic_Information/Clinical_Sciences/clinical_sciences.html

Piedmont Hospital
Atlanta, GA

Dekalb Medical Center
Augusta, GA

Northside Hospital
Atlanta, GA

Rockdale Medical Center
Conyers, GA

The Emory Clinic at Emory Crawford Long Hospital
Atlanta, Georgia

Wellstar Kennestone Hospital
Austell, Georgia

Ohio Northside Medical Center
Youngstown, Ohio

Cobb Wellstar
Austell, GA

Medical College of Georgia
Augusta, Georgia

Michael Reese
Chicago, IL

Southside Medical Center
Atlanta, GA

East Central Regional Hospital
Augusta, GA

[Junito]

Piedmont Hospital
Atlanta, GA

If Surgery & OB/GYN are offered here, they would be ACGME approved.



Dekalb Medical Center
Augusta, GA

Peds if offered here would be ACGME approved.



The Emory Clinic at Emory Crawford Long Hospital
Atlanta, Georgia

If IM, FM, Surg, are offered here they will be considered ACGME approved.



Ohio Northside Medical Center
Youngstown, Ohio

FM, IM, Peds, Surg if offered here would be ACGME approved.



Michael Reese
Chicago, IL

See Michael Reese thread…



East Central Regional Hospital
Augusta, GA

Psych if offered here is ACGME approved.



NOTE: These are sites that AUA is posting on their website indicating that students there can rotate at these sites through the GMC. Since SMU is also affiliated with the GMC, the following sites may be also available to SMU students. I checked the ACGME website and the above sites have an ACGME approved residency in the rotation listed (under each site). I guess the people at the clinical dept would be able to shed more light on the subject.

[MD999]

Piedmont Hospital
Atlanta, GA

If Surgery & OB/GYN are offered here, they would be ACGME approved.



Dekalb Medical Center
Augusta, GA

Peds if offered here would be ACGME approved.



The Emory Clinic at Emory Crawford Long Hospital
Atlanta, Georgia

If IM, FM, Surg, are offered here they will be considered ACGME approved.



Ohio Northside Medical Center
Youngstown, Ohio

FM, IM, Peds, Surg if offered here would be ACGME approved.



Michael Reese
Chicago, IL

See Michael Reese thread…



East Central Regional Hospital
Augusta, GA

Psych if offered here is ACGME approved.

Does SMU have these sites too? Maybe SMU should update their clinical sites list if they have them also.

[cubmd]

5th semester in Cayman is going to have a meeting with the clinical dean next friday. It will be good to ask him about the GMC group and the possibility to have all those rotations for SMU students and also find out if those places are considered green for sure.
It will be great to do all the rotations in GA

[unknownmd]

5th semester in Cayman is going to have a meeting with the clinical dean next friday. It will be good to ask him about the GMC group and the possibility to have all those rotations for SMU students and also find out if those places are considered green for sure.
It will be great to do all the rotations in GA



becareful with GMC, a lot of students here are having trouble. one student was orginally in family med, on his first day he was told that his rotation was changed to IM. i wish i did my rotation somewhere else. try to avoid GMC. good luck.

[mdhope]

For anyone who has been there or is currently there ... How are you liking the Atlanta rotations?

[aaron1483]

is there any way possible to do all core green rotations in atlanta? i would love to if possible

[midnight]

are there any smu students who have gone to atlanta who would be willing to give us some feedback on how their rotations went? would gmc be worth the risk if we wanted to stay in one place to do rotations?

[smu79]

are there any smu students who have gone to atlanta who would be willing to give us some feedback on how their rotations went? would gmc be worth the risk if we wanted to stay in one place to do rotations?

Bump..anyone in ATL? Only Peds, Psych and FM is green?

[UFTim]

AmericanIMG is in ATL. PM him if he doesn't respond to this thread.

[MDTOB]

Bump..anyone in ATL? Only Peds, Psych and FM is green?

I thought only Psych was green in ATL, unless the school added more greens in ATL??

[Junito]

It seems that the school and the GMC are in disagreement as to what is considered ACGME affiliated. I would trust the school's definition as it seems the school views a rotation as being one that has residents from an ACGME accredited residency program affiliated with the rotation (in other words residents from a residency program rotate through the site). Some sites consider any rotation ACGME because of the FP umbrella. You have to do your own research as this can get a bit confusing.

[got milk?]

It seems that the school and the GMC are in disagreement as to what is considered ACGME affiliated. I would trust the school's definition as it seems the school views a rotation as being one that has residents from an ACGME accredited residency program affiliated with the rotation (in other words residents from a residency program rotate through the site). Some sites consider any rotation ACGME because of the FP umbrella. You have to do your own research as this can get a bit confusing.


the fp umbrella doesnt apply to us right?

not all states accept the fp umbrella?

[Junito]

I believe Cali was the state that used the FP umbrella. I know Texas and Penn do not accept the FP umbrella.

[muamedstudent27]

I was wondering if SMU is still affiliated with the GMC Group b/c I was thinking of signing up with them but I need some more information. If anyone from SMU can give me some more information about the GMC group I would be extremely grateful. Please PM me. Thanks

[Barney Rebel]

GMC just lost its ACGME Psych site, so now nothing is green in Atlanta. The clinical director said that once everyone is out after this semester, they will no longer send students to Atlanta.

[Oluchi]

Is this true? No more clinical sites in Atlanta?!?! wow....

[AmericanIMG]

what about NY???

NYC’s Health and Hospital Corporation and St. George’s University Agreement - St. George’s University - Caribbean Medical & Veterinary School (http://www.sgu.edu/website/sguwebsite.nsf/news-events/news-archives07-HHC.html)

[Junito]

Those are city hospital such as Coney Island, Long Island College Hospital, etc. That does not affect Wyckoff, SJE, or St. Barnabas. SGU already had a few hospitals within the HHC (which is impressive).

[drjohnwebb]

One of our SGA reps mentioned something about Atlanta the other day too. Which really sucks, since that is one of the main reasons I came to SMU.

[Junito]

Can't you still affiliate with the GMC? But then again cores are only done at places that are affiliated with the school. Either way I feel your pain.

[drjohnwebb]

Seems like SGU is taking over..lol

[Junito]

They are just willing to go the extra mile to make sure they will be around for the next couple of years. Competition is getting fierce, and it will only take a matter of years for the other Carib schools to develop facilities and gain name recognition. If everything else is equal in respect to facilities and faculty, then how can you stand out from another school that has everything you have plus is located on a better island? Smart move on the part of SGU.

[Oluchi]

Likewise, the Atlanta rotations was one of the MAIN reasons I chose SMU....So what does this mean? Are ppl going to be re-assigned to Florida sites? I just get nervous because what else is going to change in the future? man.....

For you all there on campus, what is the school saying about it? What other options are being offered?

[Junito]

When it comes to clinical sites there are numerous changes...i.e. when I was in **, Florida Hospital was ACGME for only FM. On that note I just planned on doing FM there, but then one week before my Surgery rotation I noticed that Surgery and Ob/GYN became ACGME affiliated also. I saw the school gain and lose an affiliation with Lincoln Hospital all within one semester. Point is be prepared for changes.

I believe the school should attempt to consolidate rotations into 3-4 major centers: 1 in NYC, 1 in Michigan, 1 in Florida, and 1 in another site where at least 50 students can be taken in at one time, maybe Chicago. When I was in ** there was talks of this, and I'm not sure if this is the direction the school is currently following, but it just makes sense.

[AmericanIMG]

juni, you have an east coast/mid west bias!!!

they should look into AZ as well for us west coast ppl...plus AZ is SO IMG friendly it would be a smart idea.

[Kronos]

If SMU is going to get to the next level and survive the competition that is heating up, they need to go the SGU model and set up clinical centers AWAY from other caribbean schools. I wish there was a way for students to be able to do all green cores with one affiliated hospital or city (like Michigan is the bets bet so far) without having to worry about competition from other carib students for spots. GMC and the NYC deal just confirms that.. there is too much uncertainty in the clinical years, definitely too much to support a heavy population of students in **. Look at the mess that Ross is in because they didn't grow their clinical sites before accepting students. If GMC really is lost, then SMU better get in gear before the basic science crowd hits a bottleneck after Step 1.

Is it officially confirmed now that GMC is not a site for us anymore? SMU's website still lists them as a clinical site for cores. :confused:

Thank God I'll be doing 90 hour weeks in residency by the time this hits the fan... but I have confidence that SMU has more foresight than Ross and will actually get a move on doing some deals with hospital systems across the country.

And AZ is a great place for IMGs, with many hospitals outside of the UofA that would love to have us. But nothing beats NYC, I must say.

[UFTim]

From what I've learned, this GMC business stemmed from the head honcho leaving GMC.

Florida would be a nice center for rotations, but it'll be tough with FSU expanding and UCF starting their med school.

[drjohnwebb]

Looks like Kissemmee is my new place to be... since Atlanta is down the tube...but I have a while, so you never know what will happen.

I am OK with SMU raising tution a grand or so, if they are going to get us some dang sites that are worst something.. IF they raise tuition a grand per semester, that is 3 million a year . I am sure we can figure something out with that and the investors can still make some money.

[Jeep23Guy]

Good luck getting rotations in Florida. There's a hella waiting list. They're really tough to get now.

[AmericanIMG]

not from the head honcho leaving GMC, but rather from Xavier fielding enough students to fully fill out GMC's 3rd/4th yr.

[Junito]

juni, you have an east coast/mid west bias!!!

they should look into AZ as well for us west coast ppl...plus AZ is SO IMG friendly it would be a smart idea.

First of all look at the number of students that will need to be accomodated by a teaching site. I believe SMU needs to start focusing on obtaining teaching sites that are not fragmented, meaning that most core rotations (at least 4) are ACGME affiliated. Second there should be at least 10-20 students at the site. Having 4 students here and 2 elsewhere is one a logistical nightmare, and can give the impression that oversight over clinical sciences may not be efficient. Secondly I am not too familiar with hospitals in the west, and avoid commenting on areas that I know nothing about. I personally know that the school was working on gaining a site in Az. Doesn't mean we will get one there, but they are at least trying.

[MD777]

we have so much diluted our energy/resources into so many areas, which can make us look like not a serious team of med students. i am a bit confused that WHAT our school is working on. the do not appear something is being worked on. we should be getting some communication for any news regardless what it is, would be, or will be!!!

First of all look at the number of students that will need to be accomodated by a teaching site. I believe SMU needs to start focusing on obtaining teaching sites that are not fragmented, meaning that most core rotations (at least 4) are ACGME affiliated. Second there should be at least 10-20 students at the site. Having 4 students here and 2 elsewhere is one a logistical nightmare, and can give the impression that oversight over clinical sciences may not be efficient. Secondly I am not too familiar with hospitals in the west, and avoid commenting on areas that I know nothing about. I personally know that the school was working on gaining a site in Az. Doesn't mean we will get one there, but they are at least trying.

[DoodleIMV]

EXCUSE me? We are working on so many areas because so many areas need work. Our school is working on a variety of good things to help people. Our research in the area of SIDS, for instance is on the cutting edge.

[cubmd]

Florida would be a nice center for rotations, but it'll be tough with FSU expanding and UCF starting their med school.

...and FIU is also opening another medical school. That is one of the reasons why Mount Sinai is not taking more foreign medical students for electives.

[UFTim]

...and FIU is also opening another medical school. That is one of the reasons why Mount Sinai is not taking more foreign medical students for electives.

So much for me trying to do an elective or two on South Beach. Bummer.

[cubmd]

So much for me trying to do an elective or two on South Beach. Bummer.
......yeah...try Orlando Regional

[Junito]

......yeah...try Orlando Regional

Tell me about it! Their rotations were always booked. I got tired of applying.

[UFTim]

Yeah, Orlando Regional said at least one year in advance. It didn't make sense to me since you can only apply one year in advance.

[thatguy]

how can you get in touch with someone at GMCgroup? I have been calling and emailing for a month and have received only 2 "5 word" emails and according to the last one i have an elective for november which is getting very close, yet they never respond. unfortunately the email only said "neuro elective has been set." and i have no idea about the details of the rotation and my coordinator has not gotten any info either.

[cubmd]

how can you get in touch with someone at GMCgroup? I have been calling and emailing for a month and have received only 2 "5 word" emails and according to the last one i have an elective for november which is getting very close, yet they never respond. unfortunately the email only said "neuro elective has been set." and i have no idea about the details of the rotation and my coordinator has not gotten any info either.

You can’t…… It is almost impossible!!!! the only way to talk to them is whenever you start here you can go in person to their office. Let the coordinator to set the first rotation for you and obtain the info about it because GMC usually response to the school officials.

[acetre]

You can’t…… It is almost impossible!!!! the only way to talk to them is whenever you start here you can go in person to their office. Let the coordinator to set the first rotation for you and obtain the info about it because GMC usually response to the school officials.

it is highly unlikely that smu will even approve you to do a rotation with GMC to begin with. I have just set up a rotation in GA (that has nothing to do with GMC, and my clinical coordinator gave me the runaround until I proved to here that the rotation was not affiliated with GMC.---acetre

[gagal]

I am from atlanta and I wanted to try to stay there. What is the difference between SMU approved sites vs green sites. I would want to stay and try to do residency in atlanta as well. What type of teaching is the GMC sites? If anyone has any information please let me know. Thank you!

[UFTim]

I am from atlanta and I wanted to try to stay there. What is the difference between SMU approved sites vs green sites. I would want to stay and try to do residency in atlanta as well. What type of teaching is the GMC sites? If anyone has any information please let me know. Thank you!

Not too sure if we have any GMC sites anymore.

SMU approved means that the school approves them. That's about it.