New California and Texas laws

[dc2md]

I just heard about these new policies set forth by California and Texas. They put strict guidelines on offshore schools (especially the smaller ones) and its quite likely that SABA doesn't meet them. Here are the criteria:

1) The University must provide CME opportunities.
2) The University much participate in medical research and afford that to their students.
3) The University must sponsor a post-grad RESIDENCY.

Has anyone else heard of this? Can someone at SABA ask the administration about this so I can save a phone call?

Chris

[dc2md]

I really don't plan on practicing in either of these states, but my concern is that I'm told these strict guildlines will likely quickly spread to the other states.

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? :wink:

[Neuro4u]

I have heard about these changes. Recently a student at CAHSU (belize) was telling me that this school is going to have a residency program in Belize.

I know that Texas is strict about doing rotations in Green book hospitals, so the students working under the Family Practice umbrella may have problems.

I guess the laws will change again when they are in need of doctors. These states are specifically targeting off shore schools.

[jbuzz]

there is some discussion about these new laws on the AUC posts... it's interesting reading.
http://www.valuemd.com/viewtopic.php?t=7704

there is also a post from Pat Park, who is the California liason for foreign medical schools, regarding this issue. She clarifies any misunderstandings.
http://www.valuemd.com/viewtopic.php?t=7760

[Rwl22]

but what is "CME' and does Saba have it?

[ajcarrol]

CME stands for Continuing Medical Education. No, Saba doesn't have it.

[bigrock]

I don't know why Texas suddenly hates Saba but these are proposed rule changes by the Texas Board for 2004:

"(10) Graduate of an acceptable unapproved foreign medical school--An applicant who is a graduate of a school or college located outside the United States or Canada whose school or college:


(A) is not currently undergoing the approval process of the Medical Board of California; [ and, ]


(B) has not been disapproved by the Medical Board of California; and


(C) is substantially equivalent to a Texas medical school.


[ (B) is either:]


[ (i) substantially equivalent to a Texas medical school; or]


[ (ii) has not been disapproved by the Medical Board of California.] "

[ResearchingGuy]

Say BigRock,

Could you post the web adress where you found the information pertaining to Texas? I have found the other info (esp. the part about a research program and CME), but I haven't seen anything mentioning the California approval process.

Thanks!

Best of Luck!

[ajcarrol]

I also recently looked this up. Here's the link

http://www.tsbme.state.tx.us/rules/rules/163.htm

It's under 163.1, number 13.

[Rwl22]

it says if SU gets approved in California it will be approved in Texas. Isn't SU currently undergoing the process for CA approval?

[bigrock]

Actually, it appears to say that licensure for SU grads is NOT currently possible while the school is undergoing Ca approval or "ever" if it is (perhaps) disapproved.
Since these criteria are scheduled for 2004 SU may slip in under the wire but, at the same time, one should realize that this is a separate requirement from any other. In other words, Ca approval does not mean Texas approval at all. It seems to be yet another speedbump.
I was told recently by a Texan that a lot of this trouble comes from the fact that the AMA or the Texas Medical Association (or something) backed the losing Sanchez for Governor instead of the winning Perry. I don't know if that is true or not but I did see that:
1)At least 2 members of the Medical Board are grads from foreign schools--neither of which are "approved" in Texas.
2)The Texas legislature has recently been asked to increase the number of visas for "foreign" residents so that the current shortage of physicians is addressed. "Foreign" seems to mean "anywhere but the Carribean".

[ResearchingGuy]

You said it ajcarroll. Right there under "definitions":

(13) Studied medicine in an acceptable unapproved foreign medical school - An applicant who has studied at a school or college located outside the United States or Canada whose school or college:


(A) is not currently undergoing the approval process of the Medical Board of California; and,


(B) is either:


(i) substantially equivalent to a Texas medical school; or


(ii) has not been disapproved by the Medical Board of California.




They pretty much should just have said "Saba" (I think St. Matthews may still be in the process).


I'm not quite sure their motivation for the change (especially their concern about California. The Texans I know don't care much how they do things in California :wink: ). I would speculate there is a whole lot of politics involved.

Best of Luck to Us All!

[Rwl22]

who gives a rat's rump about Texas. There are 49 other states. :wink: