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porsche911turbo
12-13-2005, 04:12 AM
I read in an earlier post that SABA doesn't require you to submit mcat scores. Is this true? I did really bad on the mcat, as in below the ave. of the big 3 schools, and planned on retaking it. How would it look if I didn't submit my scores?

rdecastro
12-13-2005, 07:55 AM
If your scores were above (say) 24, I'd include them. If they were below 20, I might not.

butters
12-13-2005, 12:33 PM
also, if you have good grades and ure mcat's are really low, then forego them.

if they are in the 22-25'ish range, I'd go ahead and submit them b/c that is about average.

good luck!

Experienced
12-13-2005, 11:25 PM
I have a very serious question for those whose MCAT scores stink. Why would you apply to medical school, especially Saba or another Big 4? The MCAT is a predictor of success in medical school, so if you do horrible on the MCAT..... well you finish the sentence. Maybe medical school is not your thing. I know some of you dreamers will get all bent out of shape by this post, but really, SUSOM is not some haven for sad sacks and hopeless cases. It's a real medical school with very high standards and expectations of its students. The students at Saba do not want weak sisters to have to pull along through all five semesters. This is not a school for losers. It is a school for those who should have been able to get into a North American school had there been more slots available. If you did horrible on the MCAT maybe you should rethink your career aspirations.

miasma
12-13-2005, 11:35 PM
I have a very serious question for those whose MCAT scores stink. Why would you apply to medical school, especially Saba or another Big 4? The MCAT is a predictor of success in medical school, so if you do horrible on the MCAT..... well you finish the sentence. Maybe medical school is not your thing. I know some of you dreamers will get all bent out of shape by this post, but really, SUSOM is not some haven for sad sacks and hopeless cases. It's a real medical school with very high standards and expectations of its students. The students at Saba do not want weak sisters to have to pull along through all five semesters. This is not a school for losers. It is a school for those who should have been able to get into a North American school had there been more slots available. If you did horrible on the MCAT maybe you should rethink your career aspirations.
whoa, have a rough day? take it easy dude. just some people asking a honest question. no need to get edgy. is the mcat a precursor for medical school performance? maybe. but for some, it isn't. it is as simple as that, people will do what they choose, and if medical school is what they truly want, and will do anything to succeed at (despite a low mcat score), then that is their decision, and all we're in a position to do is to wish them good luck, and tell them to work hard.

DonnieMD2B
12-13-2005, 11:56 PM
I agree, I've known people with low mcat do well in medical school. In fact, a very close friend didn't do so well. Went out of the country, another lesser known caribbean school, and is a superb internist. She says she knew she had to do well in medical school to succeed so she devoted 18 hours a day to school and studying (on average). She slept on avg. 5-6 hours. While she didn't have a life she knew what it took and she did it. As I and others have said before. ANYONE can go to medical school, ANYONE can become a physician, but NOT JUST ANYONE can become a good physician. Pray that you get in. Once you do...study a lot. I fear failure so much I ordered all of the required books and some other recommended by the school and other students. I want to give myself every opportunity. I suggest anyone, no matter what you received on your MCAT, study hard and never to give up. Those are the ones that truely succeed. Who cares what school you go to or where you train. What really matters is that you give the best medical care that you can give. And when you cannot give it personally, you give your patient the opportunity to seek out that needed quality. Just my two cents.

miasma
12-14-2005, 12:12 AM
nicely said donniemd2b, i live by the same principles you have outlined here. i believe that hard work can make up for any "lack of smarts" a person may have.

rdecastro
12-14-2005, 12:40 AM
BTW, the only part of the MCAT that has any correlation with Med School success (and weakly, at that) is the VR score. The science and writing scores are **.

porsche911turbo
12-14-2005, 12:57 AM
Thanks for the response.

So if i choose not to submit my scores, do i just leave the MCAT question on the application blank?

BTH
12-14-2005, 01:29 AM
Salutations:

You can try leaving that part blank, but they may ask you about it in your interview. The best thing would be to call Gardner and ask them whether or not they require you list your MCAT score. If it comes up during the interview, they may ask you whether or not you took the MCAT. You don't want to be caught off guard if that's the case. Good luck. Ciao.

eljefe
12-14-2005, 02:51 AM
I agree, I've known people with low mcat do well in medical school. In fact, a very close friend didn't do so well. Went out of the country, another lesser known caribbean school, and is a superb internist. She says she knew she had to do well in medical school to succeed so she devoted 18 hours a day to school and studying (on average). She slept on avg. 5-6 hours. While she didn't have a life she knew what it took and she did it. As I and others have said before. ANYONE can go to medical school, ANYONE can become a physician, but NOT JUST ANYONE can become a good physician. Pray that you get in. Once you do...study a lot. I fear failure so much I ordered all of the required books and some other recommended by the school and other students. I want to give myself every opportunity. I suggest anyone, no matter what you received on your MCAT, study hard and never to give up. Those are the ones that truely succeed. Who cares what school you go to or where you train. What really matters is that you give the best medical care that you can give. And when you cannot give it personally, you give your patient the opportunity to seek out that needed quality. Just my two cents. very well said...:wink:

butters
12-14-2005, 03:20 AM
I have a very serious question for those whose MCAT scores stink. Why would you apply to medical school, especially Saba or another Big 4? The MCAT is a predictor of success in medical school, so if you do horrible on the MCAT..... well you finish the sentence. Maybe medical school is not your thing. I know some of you dreamers will get all bent out of shape by this post, but really, SUSOM is not some haven for sad sacks and hopeless cases. It's a real medical school with very high standards and expectations of its students. The students at Saba do not want weak sisters to have to pull along through all five semesters. This is not a school for losers. It is a school for those who should have been able to get into a North American school had there been more slots available. If you did horrible on the MCAT maybe you should rethink your career aspirations.

wow...that's quite a dramatic statement to make.

"weak sisters to have to pull along.." it's medical school...u shouldn't have to pull anyone along. everyone should be doing their best to pull themselves through.

and i've known many people who have done poorly or average on the mcat and still done exceptionally well on the usmle. once you are in med school, mcat's and undergrad gpa's shouldn't matter...it's all about ure med school grades and even more importantly, ure usmle.

nismodrifter
12-14-2005, 03:51 AM
Just some general questions on this topic that I have....
I scored a 25R on my MCAT. 6p 10vr Rws 9b
Do you guys think that the 6 would actually HURT me if I submit MCAT results??? I did ok on the other sections but that 6 is not something I'm proud about. Do they look more at my composite score of 25R or individual sections? I am just curious thats all, I will end up re-writing in April anyways (Canada first....Caribbean as my last resort) but I'm just curious as to how my MCAT stands at the moment.

butters
12-14-2005, 03:58 AM
Just some general questions on this topic that I have....
I scored a 25R on my MCAT. 6p 10vr Rws 9b
Do you guys think that the 6 would actually HURT me if I submit MCAT results??? I did ok on the other sections but that 6 is not something I'm proud about. Do they look more at my composite score of 25R or individual sections? I am just curious thats all, I will end up re-writing in April anyways (Canada first....Caribbean as my last resort) but I'm just curious as to how my MCAT stands at the moment.

from what I've experienced of Carib schools, ure composite is much more important than each individual score...that 10 actually will outshine the 6 so I wouldn't worry too much (the 9 is good too).

and your mcat is right around the average of most of the carib schools.