Clinical Rotations

[CarFanatic]

Hi guys,
I was looking into Ross university and had a quick question about the clinical rotations that take place after ones 5th semester. If a US hospital is listed as being one of say Internal Medicine rotation only, does that mean I would only be able to do that one rotation at that certain hospital? If so, does that mean I should find a hospital that has all rotations in it that I would need to complete my clinicals? Or would I have to keep switching hospitals that have the specific rotations I would need?

Thanks for the help

[CA willy]

Hi guys,
I was looking into Ross university and had a quick question about the clinical rotations that take place after ones 5th semester. If a US hospital is listed as being one of say Internal Medicine rotation only, does that mean I would only be able to do that one rotation at that certain hospital? If so, does that mean I should find a hospital that has all rotations in it that I would need to complete my clinicals? Or would I have to keep switching hospitals that have the specific rotations I would need?

Thanks for the help

There are two Ross affiliates where you can do all your rotations: Jackson Park in Chicago and Kern Medical Center in Bakersfield. Kern's relationship with Ross is currently in question in that I'm not certain if they are taking our students, or not. If a hospital only lists one rotation, that is the rotation you would be able to do there, as far as I understand. Some hospital switching is inevitable, but if you go to New York, you would most likely be able to complete all you rotations in that area, though not all as the same hospital.

[MitchDC]

What CAWilly said was not quite the whole truth. There is now a site in Wisconsin where you can do all your rotations in one spot. Also, in New York you may change hospitals but not apartments so its the same as being in one spot.

What many students don't quite get is that one hospital RARELY has great programs in every specialty. Therefore rotating through different hospitals is not a bad thing if it gets you a better educational experience. I know several US med school graduates who wished they could move around. Sure, if you have to move from State to State that is inconvenient, but still worth it for a good educational experience. Most Ross students don't move around too much in clerkships once they get started.

Ross basically has "clinical centers" as follows:

1) Janesville, WI
2) Kern Medical Center, CA
3) Jackson Park, IL
4) New York area hospitals

Also remember, you can set up your own with some leg work and determination on your own part.

-M

Hi guys,
I was looking into Ross university and had a quick question about the clinical rotations that take place after ones 5th semester. If a US hospital is listed as being one of say Internal Medicine rotation only, does that mean I would only be able to do that one rotation at that certain hospital? If so, does that mean I should find a hospital that has all rotations in it that I would need to complete my clinicals? Or would I have to keep switching hospitals that have the specific rotations I would need?

Thanks for the help

[bevo]

Dont mind the moving to different hospitals.

I do mind the commutes to each of these hospitals

90 mins each way to wyckoff
2 hours each way to St Johns Epi
the 35 mins to Maimonides seems great though compared to the other 2 :D

This is NYC clinicals to me... trying to learn to study on a subway....not so easy.

[CA willy]

Dont mind the moving to different hospitals.

I do mind the commutes to each of these hospitals

90 mins each way to wyckoff
2 hours each way to St Johns Epi
the 35 mins to Maimonides seems great though compared to the other 2 :D

This is NYC clinicals to me... trying to learn to study on a subway....not so easy.

And while I appreciate the information about Wisconsin, which I didn't know, the poster was asking about hospitals, not places to live. That is why I said you could do all your rotations in New York, while not all at the same hospital, realizing that, yes, you could stay at the same apartment if you wanted to and the commute was not prohibitive.

[MitchDC]

Oops, my mistake. The hospital in Wisconsin in Mercy Hospital in Janesville, WI. I inadvertently only listed the city and not the hospital name suggesting that the clerkships are hosted at several facilities which is not the case. I looked up the name of the hospital on the Ross website where I noticed another new hospital in Oklahoma. Anybody know about that place?

-M

And while I appreciate the information about Wisconsin, which I didn't know, the poster was asking about hospitals, not places to live. That is why I said you could do all your rotations in New York, while not all at the same hospital, realizing that, yes, you could stay at the same apartment if you wanted to and the commute was not prohibitive.

[Chianti]

"I noticed another new hospital in Oklahoma. Anybody know about that place?"

Its a county hospital, so its probably a good place to learn, but it is in Lawton, OK which is one big dump.

[singer]

Bevo:

What area do you live at in New York that takes two hours to get to Wyckoff?

Isn't there some more convienient places in Brooklyn that would be more central;ized to the hospitals and still be reasonable in costs?

[CA willy]

Oops, my mistake. The hospital in Wisconsin in Mercy Hospital in Janesville, WI. I inadvertently only listed the city and not the hospital name suggesting that the clerkships are hosted at several facilities which is not the case. I looked up the name of the hospital on the Ross website where I noticed another new hospital in Oklahoma. Anybody know about that place?

-M

Thanks, Mitch. Where did you get the information that this was a clinical center and all the cores can be completed there? I see its listing on the website, but no indications of what rotations are offered. Thanks.

[FRNC]

Dont mind the moving to different hospitals.

I do mind the commutes to each of these hospitals

90 mins each way to wyckoff
2 hours each way to St Johns Epi
the 35 mins to Maimonides seems great though compared to the other 2 :D

This is NYC clinicals to me... trying to learn to study on a subway....not so easy.


Bay Ridge area of Brooklyn with a car is quite convenient.

FRNC

[bevo]

if you drive...not everyone does

[sukhtinder]

Grim-faced and forbidding,
Their faces closed tight,
An angular mass of New Yorkers
Pacing in rhythm,
Race the oncoming night,
They chase through the streets of Manhattan.
Headfirst humanity,
Pause at a light,
Then flow through the streets of the city.

They seem oblivious
To a soft spring rain,
Like an English rain
So light, yet endless
From a leaden sky.

The buildings are lost in the limitless rise.
My feet catch the pulse and the purposeful stride.

I feel the sense of possibilities,
I feel the wrench of hard realities.
The focus is sharp in the city.

-Neil Peart

[butters]

What CAWilly said was not quite the whole truth. There is now a site in Wisconsin where you can do all your rotations in one spot. Also, in New York you may change hospitals but not apartments so its the same as being in one spot.

What many students don't quite get is that one hospital RARELY has great programs in every specialty. Therefore rotating through different hospitals is not a bad thing if it gets you a better educational experience. I know several US med school graduates who wished they could move around. Sure, if you have to move from State to State that is inconvenient, but still worth it for a good educational experience. Most Ross students don't move around too much in clerkships once they get started.

Ross basically has "clinical centers" as follows:

1) Janesville, WI
2) Kern Medical Center, CA
3) Jackson Park, IL
4) New York area hospitals

Also remember, you can set up your own with some leg work and determination on your own part.

-M


when i called about wisconsin, it was not available for everything...don't know if anything has progressed with this location but their listing of maine and wisconsin is not entirely accurate.

[Cuando2]

What CAWilly said was not quite the whole truth. There is now a site in Wisconsin where you can do all your rotations in one spot. Also, in New York you may change hospitals but not apartments so its the same as being in one spot.
Come now, dont mislead people. There isnt a single hospital in NYC where every rotation can be done. By "clinical center," people assume that you are referring to a single location, where you'd report to every day, and therefore, would locate housing very close to that hospital.

NYC is diff, just as another poster eluded to, simply because you can find one place but have to battle NYC's traffic to get to diff hospitals every week.

That also means you'd have to learn the "system" at each different hospital, including anything from learning your way around, learning all the new people/techs/nurses/medical records people/OR staff/etc etc to knowing where Radiology is, how to page residents, knowing what the fax numbers are to have medical records faxed, how to tell a patient which area outpatient clinic to go to, etc etc etc.

Now you can see how doing rotations at ONE hospital is DIFFERENT than NYC's "area hospitals."

[MitchDC]

First of all, I never said there was a single hospital where students could do all their clerkships. As you clearly quoted me above, I said that you may be at different hospitals in the same city. If I was misleading people that the SGU system that coined the term clinical center is guilty of the same thing since there definition is a hospital or group of hospitals where students can do most of their core clerkships. No deception going on here. Its true that Ross students can live in the same apartment and go between different hospitals for all their clerkships in New York City. I agree with you that you would have to go between different systems and different ways of doing things and that may not be ideal for some. Since I never rotated in New York I cannot comment any more about that.

Now to Butters, I personally know several students who have already and several others who are currently completing ALL of their rotations at the program in Wisconsin. Try again.


Does Ross list Maine rotations anywhere? I've never seen it on the list and it currently isn't on the website.

-M
Come now, dont mislead people. There isnt a single hospital in NYC where every rotation can be done. By "clinical center," people assume that you are referring to a single location, where you'd report to every day, and therefore, would locate housing very close to that hospital.

NYC is diff, just as another poster eluded to, simply because you can find one place but have to battle NYC's traffic to get to diff hospitals every week.

That also means you'd have to learn the "system" at each different hospital, including anything from learning your way around, learning all the new people/techs/nurses/medical records people/OR staff/etc etc to knowing where Radiology is, how to page residents, knowing what the fax numbers are to have medical records faxed, how to tell a patient which area outpatient clinic to go to, etc etc etc.

Now you can see how doing rotations at ONE hospital is DIFFERENT than NYC's "area hospitals."

[Shah_Patel_PT]

Bay Ridge area of Brooklyn with a car is quite convenient.

FRNC

I have heard a lot of medical students live in the bay ridge area.

[singer]

I have heard a lot of medical students live in the bay ridge area.

bay Ridge is a s afe place to live and the cost of renting a place can be half of what it would cost to live in Manhattan, Park Slope or Greenpoint. Unfortuantely if you don't have a car the public transprtation isn't that great to get to most of the ROSS affiliated hospitals. You also have to realize that the traffic situation in New York, especially during rush hour can vary day to day depending on how many accidents occur on the side streets and highways. You always have to make sureto have several routes to take and leave enough extra time in your travel schedule.

[Junito]

Does Ross list Maine rotations anywhere? I've never seen it on the list and it currently isn't on the website.

-M

I spoke to a Ross official and they informed me that there were 2 students at the time doing a family medicine rotation at Central Maine Medical Center. The hospital has/had a few Ross grads in residency. The Ross official said this happened recently...So that is maybe why it is not listed. CMMC is a nice hospital and they provide housing.

[butters]

First of all, I never said there was a single hospital where students could do all their clerkships. As you clearly quoted me above, I said that you may be at different hospitals in the same city. If I was misleading people that the SGU system that coined the term clinical center is guilty of the same thing since there definition is a hospital or group of hospitals where students can do most of their core clerkships. No deception going on here. Its true that Ross students can live in the same apartment and go between different hospitals for all their clerkships in New York City. I agree with you that you would have to go between different systems and different ways of doing things and that may not be ideal for some. Since I never rotated in New York I cannot comment any more about that.

Now to Butters, I personally know several students who have already and several others who are currently completing ALL of their rotations at the program in Wisconsin. Try again.


Does Ross list Maine rotations anywhere? I've never seen it on the list and it currently isn't on the website.

-M

i think that's great news...no need to get hostile...

when i called i was told that the program hadn't yet developed. but if it has, that's great news and very good for our students.

seriously, we all need to get the info out without attacking each other or trying to sound like one person is right and the other wrong. if it's good news, it's good for us all.