clinicals question

[ajanco]

hello-

had a question about the clinicals.... after you finish the five semesters at st. chris.... u then go on to do the clinicals? are these done in the states and after u are done, do u have to go back to st. chris for ur degree? still trying to fisgure out the whole "process" of med. school. also, is st. chris good for ppl who plan to work in the usa?

aj

[OLDPRO]

The Order of School:
Semesters 1 to 4 in Luton (3 semesters a year so out of Luton in 1.5 years.)
White coat in Luton.
5th semester in Ohio.
Kaplan review USLME step 1
Clinicals some where in states next 2 years during which you take USLME step 2.
Graduation at the UN NY NY.
Then we call you Dr.
Residency Match

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[Skipper]

The Order of School:
Semesters 1 to 4 in Luton (3 semesters a year so out of Luton in 1.5 years.)
White coat in Luton.
5th semester in Ohio.
Kaplan review USLME step 1
Clinicals some where in states next 2 years during which you take USLME step 2.
Graduation at the UN NY NY.
Then we call you Dr.
Residency Match
depending on what state you cannot be called Dr unless you are licensed--therefore therotically you can go to St chris and never become a Dr

skipper

[ansgenius]

Well then, theoretically, you can go to any medical school and never be called a doctor.

[anubis]

Most states will require you to have completed or have almost completed one year of post graduate training in a residency program prior to taking the Step 3. All 50 states require that you have successfully passed the Steps 1, 2, and 3 in order to be eligible for licensure. Per First Aid for the Match, 3rd Edition, pgs 229, 232.
Therefore, you are a doctor before lincensure.

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[OLDPRO]

depending on what state you cannot be called Dr unless you are licensed--therefore therotically you can go to St chris and never become a Dr

skipper

What plane of reality are you in? go back to your corner of Value Md and post this ** there. There is no such Law and if there is I DARE YOU TO POST IT. I have read and reread all the states Lic requirements and rules and never came across such a statement. I think you just enjoy trashing other schools.

go away

Cheers.

(BTW do you go to an offshore school, well if you do than using your logic can't call you doctor either.)

[bts4202]

What plane of reality are you in? go back to your corner of Value Md and post this ** there. There is no such Law and if there is I DARE YOU TO POST IT. I have read and reread all the states Lic requirements and rules and never came across such a statement. I think you just enjoy trashing other schools.

go away

Cheers.

I have seen that law in Cali, but I have yet to see it anywhere else. Although, you know, it is kind of hard to take cali's politics serious when their last govenor's race included a porn star, porn king ***** Flynt, gary Coleman, Gallagher, and AHHnuld. lol ;)

[microphage]

U guys are getting mean and vicious...

No wonder AUC people love to post here...

[OLDPRO]

I have seen that law in Cali, but I have yet to see it anywhere else. Although, you know, it is kind of hard to take cali's politics serious when their last govenor's race included a porn star, porn king ***** Flynt, gary Coleman, Gallagher, and AHHnuld. lol ;)

Okay I'm not an expert in CA law but:
it is not "against the law" to use "Dr." in California if you graduated from a medical school which is not recognized in California.....but it might be to use the title to practice medicine in California. The reasoning is that it falls under the law of "practicing medicine without a license". Same would be true for a U.S. medical school grad who doesn't have a license to practice in California.....using "Dr." is fine, but practicing medicine is not. Another example is a PhD in anatomy can use the title of "Dr.", but cannot use it to practice medicine in Cal. Simply using the title of "Dr." (research, teaching, business, etc) doesn't fall under this legal category so long as it doesn't take place in a setting of practicing medicine (i.e. treating patients). In that sense, it is merely signifying the academic level of achievement, and not the implication that one is licensed to practice medicine.

Cheers

[bts4202]

Okay I'm not an expert in CA law but:
it is not "against the law" to use "Dr." in California if you graduated from a medical school which is not recognized in California.....but it might be to use the title to practice medicine in California. The reasoning is that it falls under the law of "practicing medicine without a license". Same would be true for a U.S. medical school grad who doesn't have a license to practice in California.....using "Dr." is fine, but practicing medicine is not. Another example is a PhD in anatomy can use the title of "Dr.", but cannot use it to practice medicine in Cal. Simply using the title of "Dr." (research, teaching, business, etc) doesn't fall under this legal category so long as it doesn't take place in a setting of practicing medicine (i.e. treating patients). In that sense, it is merely signifying the academic level of achievement, and not the implication that one is licensed to practice medicine.

Cheers

Well whuds, like I said, in a state where ***** flynt is a serious candidate for govenor, it is hard to make good sense of a lot of the laws. But in Cali, regardless of your academic acheivement, it is against the law to title yourself as "Dr." unless you went to a Cali approvede school. I am sure if your buddies call you doctor, you will not get in trouble, but if you started a buissness and titled yourself as "Dr. Whuds", then they would likely have a problem with it.

They say it has to do with making people think that they are dealing with a practicing physician and giving undue credibility to something when you are ineligible to practice medicine in that state. What doesn't make sense is, if you are a licensed doc in another state, make a buissness that is very successful and you take it national, then I wonder what they would do if you company operated in Cali? All of your other documents nationwide may call you "Dr. Whuds", but in cali it couldn't? Perplexing and fairly asinine really.

[OLDPRO]

Well whuds, like I said, in a state where ***** flynt is a serious candidate for govenor, it is hard to make good sense of a lot of the laws. But in Cali, regardless of your academic acheivement, it is against the law to title yourself as "Dr." unless you went to a Cali approvede school. I am sure if your buddies call you doctor, you will not get in trouble, but if you started a buissness and titled yourself as "Dr. Whuds", then they would likely have a problem with it.

They say it has to do with making people think that they are dealing with a practicing physician and giving undue credibility to something when you are ineligible to practice medicine in that state. What doesn't make sense is, if you are a licensed doc in another state, make a buissness that is very successful and you take it national, then I wonder what they would do if you company operated in Cali? All of your other documents nationwide may call you "Dr. Whuds", but in cali it couldn't? Perplexing and fairly asinine really.

Oh yea I agree but the original post above stated that "therfore therortically you can go to St. Chris and never become a Dr." is just wrong, once you grad you are a Dr. Theroretically just not in practice in Ca. and couple of other states. You may not have a Lic in all 50 states but you are still a Dr. by degree.

Cheers

[bts4202]

Oh yea I agree but the original post above stated that "therfore therortically you can go to St. Chris and never become a Dr." is just wrong, once you grad you are a Dr. Theroretically just not in practice in Ca. and couple of other states. You may not have a Lic in all 50 states but you are still a Dr. by degree.

Cheers

yeah, i agree with you.. I was only reffering to the cali law. Try not to let people upset you with their instigatory "drive by quips".

** bts trying hard to take his own advice.

[microphage]

To someone in particular:
being stupid doesn't necessarily mean you get a warning (or an email about an warning) .... way to overstep your boundaries.

[options]

Just Say hypothetically, that graduating from St. Chris does turn out to be worthless and no one can get a license.

I guess you could go around saying you are a doctor and while it might not be against the law, but it would be really lame.

[microphage]

Just Say hypothetically, that graduating from St. Chris does turn out to be worthless and no one can get a license.

I guess you could go around saying you are a doctor and while it might not be against the law, but it would be really lame.

Like all the internet med schools and SKipper's 6 week MD program...

[bts4202]

hello-

had a question about the clinicals.... after you finish the five semesters at st. chris.... u then go on to do the clinicals? are these done in the states and after u are done, do u have to go back to st. chris for ur degree? still trying to fisgure out the whole "process" of med. school. also, is st. chris good for ppl who plan to work in the usa?

aj

going back to the actual question.

After the 5 semesters at st chris, you have the option of doing clinicals in the US or UK (you can do some in both if you want). Graduation is, of course, optional, but if your folks are like mine and INSIST on going, it is held in NYC in the UN building. Around 80% of the people who attend st chris are planning to practice in the US, the other 20% plan to go back to Canada or to the UK. I have one friend who wants to go back and practice in Kenya.

[options]

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[AUCMD2006]

must be a slow day on campus for skipper to post this.....you can be called dr whereever you want but many places do not allow you to advertise yourself as one without a medical license...anyone who is in residency deserves the title end of dicusion.

5th semester at SC should be pretty cool with the cleveland clinic deal. anyone there care to comment? undoubtedly the diagnosis part will be better than most of ours down in the islands....

oh did i say something good about SC? ok SC sucks...much better...hehe

[bts4202]

oh did i say something good about SC? ok SC sucks...much better...hehe

ok, i feel better now, I was starting to worry about you.. hehe

[microphage]

ok, i feel better now, I was starting to worry about you.. hehe

Hey, I haven't said something bad about SC in awhile...

hummmm

Pizza Hut...

[ansgenius]

Dammit, I knew you were going to say "pizza hut". Either that or "armpit".