Rochester General Hospital, Rochester

[Dru]

Rochester General Hospital, Rochester

[mpd210]

how's surgery here? I heard you work directly under the attending and its associated with rochester medical school...
Anyone who has done this rotation have any info to share?

[schoup]

how's surgery here? I heard you work directly under the attending and its associated with rochester medical school...
Anyone who has done this rotation have any info to share?

I'm from the Rochester area(suburbs). Rochester General is a well respected and well equipped hospital. They have their own independent residency programs in medicine, ob/gyn, and radiology which are very good. I would recommend it.

For Surgery they are affiliated with University of Rochester which is a top 20 school in the country. University of Rochester medicine and dentistry residents rotate here in surgery & pediatrics as well as third and fourth year medical students. They have a really good cardiovascular/cardiothoracic surgery dept which was named top 100 in the country list 6 times.

Rochester is a pretty nice place to live. The cost of living is relatively low which is helpful for students but it isn't worn down city. Much nicer than Buffalo, Syracuse, Albany, which are comparable sized cities in New York.

[ddtobemd]

Is Surgery core offered at the Rochester General a green book(ACGME approved). Thanks

[Doc-H]

hey,

does anyone know how difficult it is to get either of IM or surgery at this hospital? how often does each rotation start. thanks

doc-H

[pure_jkz]

No one's done a rotation here?

(To answer previous questions, Rochester Gen. Hospital is ACGME accredited, and the dates start every 13 weeks (Starting Jan 1st.. so you do the math for all the other start dates))

[MissMD]

-Surgery at RGH is ACGME approved (Greenbook) through University of Rochester.
-If you rotate there, you will be under the direct supervision of 1 of 2 surgeons, either Dr. G or Dr. Y. Both are very kind doctors. Your hours with them are about 8/9-4/5 PM (~6 PM on Wednesdays because of Mortality and Morbidity Conference) and is a mix of the OR (the OR will be you, the attending, and a PA who will first assist the attending-- you will start by retracting and holding the lap camera, cutting sutures, however, depending on how aggressive you are, how much you help the P.A, and show interest, you could end up first assisting toward the end--it's very laid back--if you're more comfortable just retracting and watching that's OK too. You will not get pimped. You'll also partake in office hours which are usually just follow up appointments. Dr. Y usually takes the female students because he does a lot of breast cancer work, so it makes it easier for some of his patients. As far as tests, etc- there are no tests. I remember having to write 1-2 short H&P's which were used in the patient's chart, so it was no big deal. In 12 weeks, you will work 1- rarely 2 weekends "on call" with the attending which consists of rounding on the practice's patients in the morning until about noon and going home with your pager- if there's something interesting they'll page you-- I got paged only once-- for an emergency appy-only because I hadn't seen one before. Otherwise, they aren't going to call you in for nonsense. They are very considerate! Also, once a week your attending is "on call" which means you are too...you go home with your pager...and in 12 weeks I was never called in!

-The first 5 weeks of the rotation you will have formal lectures (group of ~5 students) at RGH that you are expected to attend which is a mix of U of R students, Ross students, and SABA students. For this, you'll have to do a slide show in the end on a general surgery topic. Also, on Thursdays, you'll be expected to go to Strong Hospital (20 minute drive from RGH) for Grand Rounds in the morning and then there are medical student lectures in the afternoon at Strong which is taught by a U of R professor. I got lucky-- my first week our professor was Dr. Schwartz (As in Schwartz the surgical textbook). After those first 5 weeks, it's just you and your attending at RGH and that's about it.

So, in conclusion...is it good? Well, it depends on what you define as good. If actually being able to get your hands as dirty as you want to and work with some really nice people who don't make you do paperwork or scutwork-- then it's amazing. If you want to go into surgery and need to know what it feels like to be a resident- to see if you can tolerate it- this is not a good rotation for you because there will be no rounding at 5 AM and leaving at 10 PM like I saw the U of R students who were chasing after their residents!

[BrotherMan]

-Surgery at RGH is ACGME approved (Greenbook) through University of Rochester.
-If you rotate there, you will be under the direct supervision of 1 of 2 surgeons, either Dr. G or Dr. Y. Both are very kind doctors. Your hours with them are about 8/9-4/5 PM (~6 PM on Wednesdays because of Mortality and Morbidity Conference) and is a mix of the OR (the OR will be you, the attending, and a PA who will first assist the attending-- you will start by retracting and holding the lap camera, cutting sutures, however, depending on how aggressive you are, how much you help the P.A, and show interest, you could end up first assisting toward the end--it's very laid back--if you're more comfortable just retracting and watching that's OK too. You will not get pimped. You'll also partake in office hours which are usually just follow up appointments. Dr. Y usually takes the female students because he does a lot of breast cancer work, so it makes it easier for some of his patients. As far as tests, etc- there are no tests. I remember having to write 1-2 short H&P's which were used in the patient's chart, so it was no big deal. In 12 weeks, you will work 1- rarely 2 weekends "on call" with the attending which consists of rounding on the practice's patients in the morning until about noon and going home with your pager- if there's something interesting they'll page you-- I got paged only once-- for an emergency appy-only because I hadn't seen one before. Otherwise, they aren't going to call you in for nonsense. They are very considerate! Also, once a week your attending is "on call" which means you are too...you go home with your pager...and in 12 weeks I was never called in!

-The first 5 weeks of the rotation you will have formal lectures (group of ~5 students) at RGH that you are expected to attend which is a mix of U of R students, Ross students, and SABA students. For this, you'll have to do a slide show in the end on a general surgery topic. Also, on Thursdays, you'll be expected to go to Strong Hospital (20 minute drive from RGH) for Grand Rounds in the morning and then there are medical student lectures in the afternoon at Strong which is taught by a U of R professor. I got lucky-- my first week our professor was Dr. Schwartz (As in Schwartz the surgical textbook). After those first 5 weeks, it's just you and your attending at RGH and that's about it.

So, in conclusion...is it good? Well, it depends on what you define as good. If actually being able to get your hands as dirty as you want to and work with some really nice people who don't make you do paperwork or scutwork-- then it's amazing. If you want to go into surgery and need to know what it feels like to be a resident- to see if you can tolerate it- this is not a good rotation for you because there will be no rounding at 5 AM and leaving at 10 PM like I saw the U of R students who were chasing after their residents!

Good to hear.

[nimahani]

So I know there is only 2 core rotations set up here; however, I went to college around this area and I would like to return. Does anyone know if the clinical department would allow you to do the rest of your cores there? Or if not, who would I talk to about setting up rotations for cores??

[medicinssansfrontieres]

I'm from the Rochester area(suburbs). Rochester General is a well respected and well equipped hospital. They have their own independent residency programs in medicine, ob/gyn, and radiology which are very good. I would recommend it.

For Surgery they are affiliated with University of Rochester which is a top 20 school in the country. University of Rochester medicine and dentistry residents rotate here in surgery & pediatrics as well as third and fourth year medical students. They have a really good cardiovascular/cardiothoracic surgery dept which was named top 100 in the country list 6 times.

Rochester is a pretty nice place to live. The cost of living is relatively low which is helpful for students but it isn't worn down city. Much nicer than Buffalo, Syracuse, Albany, which are comparable sized cities in New York.

if Rochester med students rotate there for peds, has the clinical dept tried to expand the relationship here to include the peds core (even for just 1 or 2 students every 6 weeks)?