Mount Vernon Hospital, Mount Vernon

[Dru]

Mount Vernon Hospital, Mount Vernon

[Shah_Patel_PT]

Mount Vernon Hospital, Mount Vernon

Can someone please elaborate as to how the Internal Med rotation is at Mt. Vernon. How are the hours like? do u learn a lot? Is it MD?

[xman]

IM at Mt Vernon is actually not bad at all. Things can always be better, but your typical day is this: Start off with morning rounds which consist of you listening to new admits that occured at night and anything new going on with the ward patients or the ones in ICU or telemetry. You then talk with your intern or resident who usually assigns you patients to go see and write SOAP notes on. You usually also get scut work to do (IV's, blood draws, ABG's, etc). Throughout the day you get called back to the conference room for lectures with the attendings on a variety of topics.

You get in at 730am every morning and leave at about 5pm, except your call days which is every 3rd day, then you usally get out around 8pm, sometimes later. Mt Vernon is an Urban community hospital so its old, poor and sometimes dirty but if your proactive about learning and let them know your willing to help out with anything, you'll do great.

You have plenty of down time to read and study so bring your books every day. Well, there's more but im tired of writing...hope this helps.

[alpathmd]

I haven't heard anything bad about the rotation. It's one of Ross's stronger IM core rotations.

The only problem is the location, it's located AWAY from the other Ross-affiliated hospitals. So you'll probably have to re-locate after the rotation if you plan on staying in NYC for the rest of your rotations.

[CaribKari]

Did a clerkship there in the fall of 2004.

As per the last writer's post, Mount Vernon is a good place to do the IM clerkship as well as any elective you can get. The only drawback to the clerkship is that students that start clerkships in early July/August are assigned to 1st year interns who know little more than the students, and the new residents are definitely overworked. Teaching rounds are few and if you don't seek these out on your own, you probably won't see many. The didactic sessions at noon, by attendings, are great and informative and most of them are catered by Pharm reps. The once-a-week CME, presented by a professor from another teaching hospital are informative and usually well done and relevant. The hospital's Education Department (not IM dept) offers CME courses for nurses and techs that are good learning tools for medical students. You have to go find out about these on your own. Get to know Andrew, the Residency Coordinator, he can open a lot of doors for you and is very well informed on what is happening in the hospital in the way of extra training. Make friends with the phlebotomy techs because they can teach you a lot of good techniques and the nurses in the ICU can be very educational, if you can get them to warm up to you. If you get a chance, do a 2 week elective in Hyperbaric Medicine. You won't find many places that have a hyperbaric/wound care dept and if you plan on doing IM/FP/Peds, you can't go wrong by learning heavy duty wound care from professionals.

As with most of the clerkships I have done, if you don't go out on your own and look for learning experiences, you won't learn much. Don't expect everything to be handed to you, it won't be, and the only person you will be hurting (other than your patients) if you don't go looking for learning experiences is you!

Housing is difficult to find, but visiting the management of the local apartment buildings, you are likely to find a sublet for short periods of time.

[2chad]

Do mount vernon hospital do their own lab work or do I have to make a trip to the doctor?

[veetz]

Do mount vernon hospital do their own lab work or do I have to make a trip to the doctor?

They didn't even ask for evidence of having health records, titers, etc when I did my rotation back in Fall of 2004. But I did know a guy who went to employee health and got some labs drawn.

Mt. Vernon was an excellent rotation and would definitely recommend it!!

[stookie]

Mt. Vernon was an excellent rotation and would definitely recommend it!!


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[BrotherMan]

Does anyone know about surgery at this hospital? Do they have a residency program for it? What affiliations do they have? I ask because I might get a surgery rotation at this institution and was wondering the specifics.

[BrotherMan]

I am doing surgery at mount vernon. Apparently its a site that ross can do ACGME surgery that not many people know about. If people need a good surgery rotation, then you can do it here.

[shutterbugmd]

where is Mount Vernon??

[rokshana]

where is Mount Vernon??
westchester county

[BrotherMan]

westchester county

Its a quick commute from NYC (30 min)and the residents are really cool. People who want a quality surgery rotation should definately ask their clinical advisor for it. Its ACGME also. Starting dates are flexible too. You can start any week.

[BrotherMan]

I am doing surgery at this hospital now and its really great. Residents are great, ACGME accreditation, really nice attendings, good cases, you can scrub in as many cases as you want. Free parking too, and nice call room.

[cdnzed]

What are your hours like? I'm currently scheduled at Cape Cod for summer of next year, but wouldn't mind something with more leniant hours.
Is the program organized? Do you have lectures? A schedule? How many students per rotation?

Sorry for all the questions!


I am doing surgery at this hospital now and its really great. Residents are great, ACGME accreditation, really nice attendings, good cases, you can scrub in as many cases as you want. Free parking too, and nice call room.

[BrotherMan]

What are your hours like? I'm currently scheduled at Cape Cod for summer of next year, but wouldn't mind something with more leniant hours.
Is the program organized? Do you have lectures? A schedule? How many students per rotation?

Sorry for all the questions!

Hours are 6 to 2 typically. We have lecture on wednesday and grand rounds on thursday.

[BrotherMan]

And you can start any week

[cdnzed]

How many students are currently rotating their with you? From what schools?

And you can start any week

[rossdocmd]

I did my medicine rotation there in Sept of last year and I know there are AUA and St George students that rotate there. The rotation actually was setup while I was in medicine. I think I remember seeing around 5 or 6 students there at a time for surgery but it might vary.

[BrotherMan]

I did my medicine rotation there in Sept of last year and I know there are AUA and St George students that rotate there. The rotation actually was setup while I was in medicine. I think I remember seeing around 5 or 6 students there at a time for surgery but it might vary.

That sounds about right. There are 6 students currently, and students are starting and leaving at various times.

[cdnzed]

That sounds about right. There are 6 students currently, and students are starting and leaving at various times.


I'm having difficulty finding the ACGME status online. I assume it's through the southshore program affiliated with NYMC?

[rossdocmd]

I'm having difficulty finding the ACGME status online. I assume it's through the southshore program affiliated with NYMC?

Yes. The residents from southshore rotate at MVH.

[HHN786]

how is the commute to this site from NJ (hoboken)? Thanks

[rokshana]

I did my medicine rotation there in Sept of last year and I know there are AUA and St George students that rotate there. The rotation actually was setup while I was in medicine. I think I remember seeing around 5 or 6 students there at a time for surgery but it might vary.

i don't think sgu students rotate there anymore- recall hearing everyone was at soundshore now (but who knows- those kind of things always seem to changing)!

[BrotherMan]

i don't think sgu students rotate there anymore- recall hearing everyone was at soundshore now (but who knows- those kind of things always seem to changing)!

SGU students do rotate here for medicine, have not seen any for surgery however.

[cdnzed]

I just called the hospital for scheduling and details, but the coordinator is currently on vacation.

One question I had before I go any further: is this one of those cases where the ACGME status of the program is up for interpretation? To put it more straigh-forward: the affiliation with NY Med College is with South Shore Medical Center...so would rotating thru Mount Vernon Hospital (although in the same system as SSMC) pose any potential problems, ie: the "Jackson Park affiliate" rotations in Chicago, or is this essentially accepted by all as ACGME?

[BrotherMan]

I just called the hospital for scheduling and details, but the coordinator is currently on vacation.

One question I had before I go any further: is this one of those cases where the ACGME status of the program is up for interpretation? To put it more straigh-forward: the affiliation with NY Med College is with South Shore Medical Center...so would rotating thru Mount Vernon Hospital (although in the same system as SSMC) pose any potential problems, ie: the "Jackson Park affiliate" rotations in Chicago, or is this essentially accepted by all as ACGME?

As for scheduling, they typically take about 5-6 students in the summer, but now that its fall, up to 8 students are accepted. We have 5 students currently, but that number will drop to 2 in a few weeks. So there will be spots available for new students.

[shutterbugmd]

Anyone done IM here? I've read the surgery posts. wondering about Internal, thanks

[dishanarula]

Does anyone know what is required for orientation day at Mount vernon?? I have IM scheduled at this hospital, but I have not received any information from the hospital as to what is required for health clearance and where to report on the first day.

[BrotherMan]

Does anyone know what is required for orientation day at Mount vernon?? I have IM scheduled at this hospital, but I have not received any information from the hospital as to what is required for health clearance and where to report on the first day.

You need the usual ppd, titers and PE. As for orientation, i do not know as i am doing surgery.

[dishanarula]

I'm thinking of living in bayridge as my other rotations after mount vernon are in brooklyn and queens...how bad is the commute to mount vernon?? I have IM at mount vernon so I would be commuting for 3 months. Is it something I can get used to??

[rokshana]

I'm thinking of living in bayridge as my other rotations after mount vernon are in brooklyn and queens...how bad is the commute to mount vernon?? I have IM at mount vernon so I would be commuting for 3 months. Is it something I can get used to??

dang- that's gotta be AT least a hour-hour and a half commute- and the traffic on the BQE and the Van wyck will suck!

at least queens would be middlin ground- but overal will make for looong commutes.

[dishanarula]

yeah..i realize the commute to mount vernon is insane.....but the rest of my rotations are between queens and brooklyn.

I am actually looking at park slope now rather than bayridge, but park slope is $$$$.
My roomie needs to be in brooklyn so I can't live in queens.
I'm just hoping to get used to it and suck it up.

[BrotherMan]

i live in astoria and my commute is quick, about 20 min for a 15 mile drive.

[BrotherMan]

but since you gotta be there early, it shouldn't be too bad, the drive home may be another issue. I know a guy who drove there all the way out from long island. When are you starting?

[BrotherMan]

I just called the hospital for scheduling and details, but the coordinator is currently on vacation.

One question I had before I go any further: is this one of those cases where the ACGME status of the program is up for interpretation? To put it more straigh-forward: the affiliation with NY Med College is with South Shore Medical Center...so would rotating thru Mount Vernon Hospital (although in the same system as SSMC) pose any potential problems, ie: the "Jackson Park affiliate" rotations in Chicago, or is this essentially accepted by all as ACGME?

Cal her again, she is back. On my transcript thingy, it says that I am doing my surgery at sound shore medical center, not mount vernon even though i am located there.

[shutterbugmd]

So. Internal Med.. any comments? how are the hours / interns / attendings?? thanks!

[dishanarula]

hey brotherman,

I start sept 17th.....i believe I have to be there at 7:30am.
I'm still looking for a place with my roommate...so i have to kind of consider her schedule and school as well...we'll see what happens...

Is astoria a good place to live? is it safe?

[dishanarula]

Does anyone know if i can commute from brooklyn to mt vernon via subway and bus? I won't have a car so i'm hoping a public transportation will get me there even if it takes 1.5 hrs to 2 hrs each way....
Thanks!

[shutterbugmd]

Go to grand central and change to metro north. That leaves you right there 5min walk from the hospital.. are you doing IM or Surgery? I start IM in November and would like to get surgery there.. good luck

[dishanarula]

hey,

Thank you for the info. I am doing IM there until December. good luck with your surgery there...i'm sure you'll enjoy it.

[MTpromises]

Hi,

I'm starting IM on 9/17/07.

Does anyone recommend any good books to have on hand for Int. Medicine Rotation?

Also should or Lab Coat be up to our waist at Mt. Vernon or it doesn't matter.

Regards...

[dishanarula]

hi,

I was wondering if you know what time we are supposed to be there on the first day? The information page Ross sent me says classroom D at 7:30am.
However, when I call the medical education department they say to come at 9:30am and tell the information desk people in the lobby to call them and they'll come down and get us.

I'm also looking for info on books that are useful.
What are you bringing for health records? I have physical exam, ppd, chest xray, titres for rubella, varicella, measles, and proof of vaccinations. I don't have titres for hep B and don't even know if i have proof of vaccination, but I do know i am vaccinated. I hope that it won't be a problem.
I believe you also need your transcript and USMLE score report. You can send a fax request to Ross for an unofficial transcript including your name and student number and signature and a fax number they can fax it to.
Let me know if you found out anything that we are required to have.

Disha

[BrotherMan]

Anyone starting surgery soon?

[shutterbugmd]

Any spots available for surgery?? NJ says no. but I think they have some

[cdnzed]

BrotherMan, do the students go to Soundshore once a week?

[cdnzed]

Any spots available for surgery?? NJ says no. but I think they have some

What dates did you ask for?
When I called the MVH coordinator, she said 2008 dates were available. Were you inquiring about 2007 start dates?

[BrotherMan]

BrotherMan, do the students go to Soundshore once a week?

Yeah, we do, on wednesdays, for surgery that is in the morning.

[BrotherMan]

Any spots available for surgery?? NJ says no. but I think they have some

Ross NJ may say no, but the only way to find out is to call the coordinator at MVH to find out. It also depends on whom you speak with at Ross. Likely there will be spots available. You should be able to start anytime.

[dishanarula]

Anyone starting this monday on sept 17th for IM please please let me know if you have any clear info about where and when we are supposed to meet on the 1st day.....
I have conflicting info...ross's info sheet for Mount vernon says 7:30am classroom D and I called the hospital's medical education department and they told me 9:30am in the lobby.

Disha

[BrotherMan]

Its 9:30 I believe. Anyone who is doing IM here know for sure?

[dishanarula]

thank you brotherman....i'm going to go at 9:30am...i've called three times and this is what they told me....I hope i don't get in trouble if it was actually 7:30am....they should give the schools updated info or send an email to the students about the first day.....I don't want to be blamed for their lack of communication...i've tried my best.

[stookie]

If your school is not affiliated with MVH, can you still rotate through there? Is there an application process or something?

[dishanarula]

Hey MTpromises,

I remember you mentioned that you were starting on Monday sept 17th for IM....i was wondering if you had any clear info for time and location for day 1. Did u hear any different than I did??
I'm still debating whether I should go at 7:30am just incase or take the risk of just coming at 9:30am.
I hope you can let me know before monday.

[rossdocmd]

Hey MTpromises,

I remember you mentioned that you were starting on Monday sept 17th for IM....i was wondering if you had any clear info for time and location for day 1. Did u hear any different than I did??
I'm still debating whether I should go at 7:30am just incase or take the risk of just coming at 9:30am.
I hope you can let me know before monday.


I did IM at MVH last year....morning report starts at 7:30 everyday. It wont really matter on the first day. All the residents are very laid back and there is no formal orientation...the chief resident will assign you to a team and tell another student to show you around. I would not stress about it. Everything at MVH is very relaxed...no one is going to hunt you down to make sure you are working. After you are done your notes if you want to disappear you can. You basically get what you put into this rotation.

Oh on the first day just talk to the people at the front desk and tell them you are a new student. They will probally send you upstairs to the chief resident's office which is on the very last floor, i think 6th floor.

[dishanarula]

Thank you so much for the info...I feel so much better about it now!!! I was worried b/c some hospitals are very strict...i'm glad it's a little laid back b/c this is my first rotation and i need some cushion to get into the swing of things. First day i'll go at 9:30am, which is when i was told by medical education department.
Thank you again!

Disha

[BrotherMan]

Thank you so much for the info...I feel so much better about it now!!! I was worried b/c some hospitals are very strict...i'm glad it's a little laid back b/c this is my first rotation and i need some cushion to get into the swing of things. First day i'll go at 9:30am, which is when i was told by medical education department.
Thank you again!

Disha

Then do that then.

[shutterbugmd]

Brotherman.

can you talk about the surgery a little bit more? schedules? when do we go to South Shore vs Mount vernon? hours? thanks! ACGME?

[shutterbugmd]

Hi any new comments on IM / Surgery @ MT Vernon? thanks!

[sashoueb]

Can you please elaborate about the surgery rotations at Mount Vernon, in terms of hours., is teaching good? How are the residents? ACGME certified? any housing there? I m scheduled there in April. Any info will be helpful.
Thanks

[ssg1980]

Hello,

I here everyone talking about IM and surgery...are there any electives at this hospital? If so which ones and how are they? thank you :)

[medstudent16]

Hi, if anyone has the phone number of the Education Coordinator at Mount Vernon Hospital...can you please PM me with the number or post it on here if possible. Thank You.

[dishanarula]

Try to call the main number (914-664-8000) and ask them to connect you to medical education department.
Or try 914-361-6441 (i think that might be the office's number...i don't exactly remember).

[mddesire]

I am interested in picking up a few electives at MVH, i would liketo know if anyone has done cardio, Ifectious dz or hyperbaric wound care at this site / Pros cons? How r u graded/ Most imp housing???...any suggestions as to where I can look for housing../ Anything close to the hospital?

Thnx