Maimonides Medical Center, Brooklyn

[Dru]

Maimonides Medical Center, Brooklyn

[McGillGrad]

I just read about the place on www.scutwork.com (http://www.scutwork.com)

http://www.scutwork.com/cgi-bin/links/review.cgi?ID=2582&d=1

[Gator98MD]

I did cards back in march 2004 at Maimo and here is my review:

I did a 4 week elective. Basically the elective is broken up into a couple of different areas. You rotate thru the progressive coronary care unit which is a step down unit from the CCU. This contains people that are post MI, CHF, etc. You round with the team, but I dont recall following specific patients per se. A couple times a week you have dedicated EKG teaching which i thought was excellent. Also, the attendings made an effort to lecture on various cards topics which I was imprssed by. This is done by cardiology attendings and fellows who are all very good. THe other part of the rotation you spend in the actual CCU which is where people are SICK. Again you round with the team but I dont remember actually covering specific patients. This was also very good because there is alot of teaching. Additonally you have "homework assignments" each day consisting of two EKG interpretations that you turn in to be graded. I am not sure how strict they are about this in terms of how it plays into you final grade because I started out strong with these but then petered out toward the end and I stopped turning them in altogether. My grade was fine at the end. The best thing about this rotation is that there is alot of structure and by the end I could actually read EKG's decently which was my goal. One other thing, you also get the opportunity (technically its required) to observe two cardiothoracic surgeries, spend time in the echo lab, and watch stress testing. Overall I thought it was a very good rotation.

[Potatooo]

I did 3 weeks of ENT at this site last winter. In general, the program is pretty lay back, lots of time spending in the OR. Only twice a week where you have ENT clinic. Usually, the OR schedule is pretty busy, lots of T&A. Some suergons are more willing to teach than other. There is only 1 ENT resident rotating with the students, he or she is usually 4 or 5th year resident. There are no lectures or any kind of exam at the end. The residents have grand rounds once a week at Long Island College Hospital, but students are not included. You will also follow the resident and the attending to do consults. There is no morning rounds, usually the resident do the rounds with the attending. You can give anyone of the attending in terms of grading. There are usually 4-5 students at the same time, there are total of 5-6 attendings, so pick the one u work with the most for evaluation. There is no lunch coupon for 4th year med students, but there is a discount for meals. Scrub and white coat is provided
Overall, OR experience is plenty but actually actual education is not that much. Looking back, i think i would do 2 weeks instead of 3 because things become repetitive and there is not much more to learn.

[Chianti]

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[butters]

I caution anyone who is of non-Jewish Middle-eastern descent from doing any rotations here. As soon as they (residents, attendings and patients) find out you are non-Jewish Middle Eastern, you will be treated like a piece of crap, literally like your life is worthless, like black people were in the south during the 1950s. I am not making this up or exaggerating.


really????? :shock: what did they do?

[McGillGrad]

really????? :shock: what did they do?

You would understand if you had spent a lot fo time at a Jewish Hospital.

[veetz]

I did 4 wks of anesthesia at Maimo and would recommend it to anyone doing rotations in Brooklyn interested in going into the field. They have a residency program, which allows you to get a taste of what is involved in being an anesthesia resident. Also, you can get a nice LOR or two. There is a new Chairman, who came from Mt. Sinai and is very well regarded in the anesthesia community. The attendings, for the most part, are great and most willing to teach and allow students to start iv's, intubate, push drugs, etc if they feel comfortable with you. You'll get good exposure to bread & butter cases, as well as complex vascular and heart cases.

I did my rotation prior to the new Chairman coming on board, so I'm sure it may be different now. The residency program wasn't anything to write home about back when I did my rotation, but with the new Chairman, I'm sure its improved. One other very positive note, the administrative assistant is HOT!

[bevo]

I did an elective in radiology here.

It was a laid back and open enviroment. Teaching wasn't great. The residents there didn't read a lot of films alone, which is where you would expect most teaching to come from. Instead you usually sat with an attending and 1+ residents.

Teaching was to the residents. Morning and afternoon conferences weren't all that helpful.

Everyone is super friendly though and always open to questions.

[MedChe]

HAS anyone done a sub I here at mamimondes for internal medicine?
any feedback would be great..as far as learning stuff, procedures, etc.
thanks!!:evil:

[Shah_Patel_PT]

I did an elective in radiology here.

It was a laid back and open enviroment. Teaching wasn't great. The residents there didn't read a lot of films alone, which is where you would expect most teaching to come from. Instead you usually sat with an attending and 1+ residents.

Teaching was to the residents. Morning and afternoon conferences weren't all that helpful.

Everyone is super friendly though and always open to questions.

Were you able to get a rec.letter from them?

[badnewsbearer]

Has anyone done anything here post 2005? I hear you have to go through Clut to set it up and it is nearly impossible....

[FoxTrot]

Would anybody recommend doing all elective rotations here during a 6 month timespan? I'd hate to sign up in advance for electives (starting in Jan 07) and then get there and find its a really crappy place to rotate.

[bevo]

Were you able to get a rec.letter from them?

I did, but I'm certainly not using it.

[manny]

hey,
Has anyone done er at maimonides? what about surgery?
thx in advance!

[awdc]

hey,
Has anyone done er at maimonides? what about surgery?
thx in advance!

I did EM there last month and had a great experience. A lot of work but worth it.

[Junito]

Anyone do Neurology or GI here? I'm scheduled for these two electives early next year...

[Shah_Patel_PT]

I did EM there last month and had a great experience. A lot of work but worth it.

ER Rotation:

Can you please elaborate on "lot of work"

Long hours? Calls? Scut work??

[awdc]

ER Rotation:

Can you please elaborate on "lot of work"

Long hours? Calls? Scut work??


What I mean by a lot of work is that you can expect to be seeing patients from the time you start till the time you leave. You eat when you can in EM. The ED is virtually always busy. I carry a PowerBar just in case I can't eat when I hope to. Students don't have to do any documentation and the fact that all documentation, labs, orders, previous charts, imaging, etc are done electronically, it makes it a breeze to follow your patients.

Shifts are a mix of 8, 10, and 12 hours. Some night shifts, some swing shifts (afternoon to 11pm or midnight), and day shifts. Weekends are just like any other day in EM so expect to go in at least half your weekends. No shifts are scheduled for students on Wednesdays so we can attend conference all morning and procedure lab afterwards. Shifts in Resuscitation can be light but there's no way of telling when. There is no call in EM and I've never heard of anyone being on call in EM anywhere. I went in five to six days a week for the better part of the rotation.

The nurses and PCA's are great. They usually get things done as quickly as they can. However, since it is so busy so often, they will appreciate any help from the student, too. If you haven't learned yet, most are happy and willing to teach you how to do things like starting an IV, drawing labs, getting an EKG, or just show you where you can get things around the ED. You usually don't have to worry about wheeling a patient to CT or x-ray.

Students are one-on-one with an attending but since the ED is only so big, there's also room for some interaction with residents. Both attendings and residents are super cool. If you're thinking about doing this rotation, apply early since they only take four students per month. I saw a lot of patients, learned a lot, and had a great time.

[popozao]

4 students per month. 48 per year. where do the other several hundred go?

[Shah_Patel_PT]

What I mean by a lot of work is that you can expect to be seeing patients from the time you start till the time you leave. You eat when you can in EM. The ED is virtually always busy. I carry a PowerBar just in case I can't eat when I hope to. Students don't have to do any documentation and the fact that all documentation, labs, orders, previous charts, imaging, etc are done electronically, it makes it a breeze to follow your patients.

Shifts are a mix of 8, 10, and 12 hours. Some night shifts, some swing shifts (afternoon to 11pm or midnight), and day shifts. Weekends are just like any other day in EM so expect to go in at least half your weekends. No shifts are scheduled for students on Wednesdays so we can attend conference all morning and procedure lab afterwards. Shifts in Resuscitation can be light but there's no way of telling when. There is no call in EM and I've never heard of anyone being on call in EM anywhere. I went in five to six days a week for the better part of the rotation.

The nurses and PCA's are great. They usually get things done as quickly as they can. However, since it is so busy so often, they will appreciate any help from the student, too. If you haven't learned yet, most are happy and willing to teach you how to do things like starting an IV, drawing labs, getting an EKG, or just show you where you can get things around the ED. You usually don't have to worry about wheeling a patient to CT or x-ray.

Students are one-on-one with an attending but since the ED is only so big, there's also room for some interaction with residents. Both attendings and residents are super cool. If you're thinking about doing this rotation, apply early since they only take four students per month. I saw a lot of patients, learned a lot, and had a great time.

Thanks for the info...I better schedule it asap..

[MedChe]

anyone know how to get there by public transportation..or better yet...do they provide parking????
thanks!:shock:

[Shah_Patel_PT]

anyone know how to get there by public transportation..or better yet...do they provide parking????
thanks!:shock:

Good Q! Somebody please tell me there is parking!?????

[awdc]

4 students per month. 48 per year. where do the other several hundred go?

I don't really understand your question. Why would several hundred people have to rotate at one department at one particular hospital? If you're from Ross, EM is not a required rotation.

The emergency medicine rotation at Maimonides just takes four students per rotation. That's it. It is tough to get in.

[awdc]

anyone know how to get there by public transportation..or better yet...do they provide parking????
thanks!:shock:

There is a train station a few block from Maimonides (I think it's the D train). They also have a parking structure which gets filled quickly. If you get there by 7 or 8 a.m. you should be okay but be prepared for stack parking (i.e. double parked). If you do have to stack park your car, you just leave the keys in your car and your door unlocked. That way, the parking attendants can move your car for others to get out or to a space on the same level later in the day. Just ask them where the keys are. It's weird but it works. The parking rate for students is $4 per day. The other alternative is just to find parking in the surrounding neighborhood.

[Junito]

Anyone recently do an anesthesiology elective at Maimonides? The previous info was great but would appreciate some feedback concerning from someone who rotated there recently. Info on scheduling would be helpful also.

[pet127]

Has any one done GI or cardio electives here, any input. thanks

[Junito]

I heard from a friend who did GI here in October that it was a busy rotation. Be prepared to stay from 8-9am to about 4-5pm. He said he was always on the go doing consults.

[Hypnotiq1121]

has anyone done all their cores here? How was the experience? Is it easy to set up all of the cores here or is it competitive? any recent info would be appreciated...

thanks

[AxlFoley]

about how many students are there per rotation? (cardio and GI for example)

[Junito]

I can tell you for Anesthesia, there are 3-4 students. I have one on one contact with an attending (who is a Program Director) and a resident. Awesome teaching experience.

[ross_student05]

has anyone done all their cores here? How was the experience? Is it easy to set up all of the cores here or is it competitive? any recent info would be appreciated...

thanks

The clinical advisors can not set up any core rotations for Ross students at Maimonides. They will tell you this. However, some people have found ways to get a core or two there, but its nearly impossible. Mostly, if you know someone at the hospital or if you know someone in administration at Ross. But setting up electives there is done online at the hospitals website.

[rifster]

Hey everyone,

I post here because we dont' have much on your forum for clinicals (I'm from MUA-Nevis). I'm doing Radiology here in September. Any advice/info?

Thanks

[awdc]

Hey everyone,

I post here because we dont' have much on your forum for clinicals (I'm from MUA-Nevis). I'm doing Radiology here in September. Any advice/info?

Thanks

I did radiology at Maimonides as well. It's a very relaxed rotation. No one kept track of the students when I was there so it's up to you what you get out of it. They'd just assume that you're not that interested and won't bother you and for most students it's fine. This also really makes it easy for you to stand out (in a good way) if you want to. Most people sit with one of the radiologists in the morning. There are conferences in the morning and afternoon along with the residents that a lot of students didn't seem to attend. Teaching in conference is geared towards the radiology residents. If you haven't read up on a lot of radiology or radiographic anatomy by the time you start your rotation, most things will just fly over your head.

You can also pretty much design your own schedule depending on your interest. I did a week of chest, a week and a half of body (abdominal) and GI, and another week and a half of musculoskeletal. Did a little bit of neuro and nuclear/PET in there, too.

If you want to get into radiology, track down the program director (ask the other radiologists or the residents), express your interest in radiology, and ask if you can shadow him (he does musculoskeletal rads). Also two of the rads attendings graduated from Ross (one in body imaging and the other in nuclear imaging). Interestingly, I hear the rads program at Maimonides is not very friendly when it comes to interviewing/ranking FMG's but at least you can get some nice letters.

One thing you'll appreciate after doing this rotation is depth and bredth of knowledge needed to be a radiologist. Next to pathology, it's probably one of the most academically oriented specialties. If you're serious about this specialty, I would pick up a couple books. You won't have time for all of them but my suggestions for med students are (in no particular order):

- Essentials of Radiology by Mettler
- Squire's Fundamentals of Radiology
- Radiology Secrets
- Felson's Principles of Chest Roentgenology (Actually, I think anyone going into any specialty that sees chest x-rays should go through this book. It's short enough to get through easily and it's a 'programmed text,' similar in style to the EKG book by Dubin.)
- a radiographic anatomy atlas would also help

[bevo]

I did radiology at Maimonides as well. It's a very relaxed rotation. No one kept track of the students when I was there so it's up to you what you get out of it. They'd just assume that you're not that interested and won't bother you and for most students it's fine. This also really makes it easy for you to stand out (in a good way) if you want to. Most people sit with one of the radiologists in the morning. There are conferences in the morning and afternoon along with the residents that a lot of students didn't seem to attend. Teaching in conference is geared towards the radiology residents. If you haven't read up on a lot of radiology or radiographic anatomy by the time you start your rotation, most things will just fly over your head.

You can also pretty much design your own schedule depending on your interest. I did a week of chest, a week and a half of body (abdominal) and GI, and another week and a half of musculoskeletal. Did a little bit of neuro and nuclear/PET in there, too.

If you want to get into radiology, track down the program director (ask the other radiologists or the residents), express your interest in radiology, and ask if you can shadow him (he does musculoskeletal rads). Also two of the rads attendings graduated from Ross (one in body imaging and the other in nuclear imaging). Interestingly, I hear the rads program at Maimonides is not very friendly when it comes to interviewing/ranking FMG's but at least you can get some nice letters.

One thing you'll appreciate after doing this rotation is depth and bredth of knowledge needed to be a radiologist. Next to pathology, it's probably one of the most academically oriented specialties. If you're serious about this specialty, I would pick up a couple books. You won't have time for all of them but my suggestions for med students are (in no particular order):

- Essentials of Radiology by Mettler
- Squire's Fundamentals of Radiology
- Radiology Secrets
- Felson's Principles of Chest Roentgenology (Actually, I think anyone going into any specialty that sees chest x-rays should go through this book. It's short enough to get through easily and it's a 'programmed text,' similar in style to the EKG book by Dubin.)
- a radiographic anatomy atlas would also help


My advice is to avoid doing a radiology rotation there. It does not help you. You would be better served doing an away rotation where you have a chance of matching if serious about radiology.

I had some other issues about the rotation, but if serious about rads the one I listed is all that matters.

if looking just for a place for a laid back rotation or a rotation to study during. Then maimo fits the bill.


My advice for looking into radiology rotations are St Vincent's in CT, St Josepeh in MI. Not sure about other ross affiliated hospitals.

[awdc]

Has any one done GI or cardio electives here, any input. thanks

I did cardio here, too. I think four students max but there were only two students during my month. Required EKG assignments each week (10 EKG's per week). Considering that you don't follow any patients, rounds were next to useless. CCU rounds were better since it was more interesting. Consults are done with one of the fellows. Teaching is also primarily done by the fellows and while they were all friendly and nice, they were clearly more concerned about their work and sometimes do not show up for a scheduled lecture. You also get exposure to the cath lab, echo, and cardiothoracic surgery.

Probably the most I got out of the rotation was ECG interpretation. Overall, it's a fair rotation. Pretty laid back rotation but sometimes a full day's attendance with the student schedule they give you. I'm sure you can get a lot of it if you put in the effort. It's a rotation that's good during interview season considering that you don't have any real responsibilities and it wasn't a problem taking days off here and there.

[AxlFoley]

Hey thanks for the info A-dubs...just curious, for the cardio elective, what time did your day start...and what time do you recommend on arriving in the morning?...although I know you said we really have no patients to round on..

Im actually going to be coming from uptown...uws, so I know the subway ride is going to be long....

[Kronos]

Anyone do their Medicine Sub-I at Maimonides? Any feedback on how difficult it is to get and the schedule?

[ross_student05]

Does anyone know of how surgery core rotation is at Maimo? Either if they did it there or know someone who did it there, hours, and calls? I was able to get a spot for November and just want to know some details if anyone knows

[Shah_Patel_PT]

Does anyone know of how surgery core rotation is at Maimo? Either if they did it there or know someone who did it there, hours, and calls? I was able to get a spot for November and just want to know some details if anyone knows

Very nice place to do it.

THere cardiothoracic surgeons actually let the students close up the chest!!!!! (obviously once the ribs are approximated)

[Captainwada]

I'm finishing up ID elective here. Typical day is 9AM-4/5 PM...I mostly do consults (just like any intern) in the AM and round PM w/ the team. I must say this is an AWESOME teaching hospital. I'm very impressed and if I were to stay in NY, I would apply for residency here!!!
Teaching is superb and the attendings actually teach and want you to learn!!! I'm def gonna more electives here!

[tno77]

The Ross handbook says all cores are available here....has anyone rotated through IM or Peds or whatnot at this site? It seems like everyone is sticking to electives

[Shah_Patel_PT]

The Ross handbook says all cores are available here....has anyone rotated through IM or Peds or whatnot at this site? It seems like everyone is sticking to electives

Did you check the date on that document (pdf)? The last I checked it was 2002.

But regardless....the students who want the rotation...core or elective....they get it by tweaking the system one way or the other. hint hint...:;)

[AxlFoley]

Just finished Cardio. Overall a pretty good rotation, in a really good hospital. There is little patient contact, HOWEVER, the teaching is exceptional. Much of the rotation seems to be geared towards EKGs, which was totally fine by me. Also clinically relevant topics are presented as well, by the fellows and attendings...as well as us students, who rotated. Rounds at first may seem pointless since we dont really follow patients...but the attendings, especially Dr. Hollander, incorporates a lot of teaching into his CICU rounds. At noon there is also either a Med conf, or Cardio conf...depending on what your schedule says. Since it was July, all our cardio conf. were cancelled, and thus we all attended the med conferenes. Almost all of the conf. were very well done and informative.

Days are not bad at all either. Usually starts at 8 or 9, and you finish around 4 or 5. But its a very laid back rotation, no stress at all....and you do learn A LOT. And especially with the dedicated EKG teaching (usually twice a day), it was more than worth it.

Fellows and attendings are really nice, and love to teach. I dont know how other electives are here...but I have heard good things for the most part. Its too bad Ross doesnt have closer ties to this hospital. Great place to rotate I think.

[dishanarula]

I wanted to do my Anesth elective at this hospital and was wondering if someone could tell me how hands on it was? How was the teaching? What are the hours?
How hard is it to apply and get the dates of your choice? How long does it take them to process your application?

Any other opinions on electives such as GI or Hemato/Onc or neonatal ICU in this hospital or any other?

Thanks,

Disha

[Junito]

I did my anesth elective at Maimo, and it was well worth it. Try to work with Dr. S, the head of the peds anesth. Very hands on, plenty of opportunities to do intubations, etc. Hard to schedule since it fills pretty quickly. I tried to schedule another 2 weeks while I was rotating there in March, and it was booked till January. Good luck and if you can schedule the rotation you are in for a good teaching experience. You have to come in around 6:40 am, and leave around 4pm, maybe later depending on who you rotate with.

[Daniel]

If you're serious about Anesthesia, dont bother doing it at Maimo. Yes, it is a great learning rotation but the program has a new Chairman, Dr K, and he openly stated his preference for no longer taking Carib grads.

I suggest looking at other hospitals where: 1) you have an opportunity to actually match, 2) you have an opportunity to see a variety of cases, 3) you have an opportunity to get multiple, strong, LORs.

[Shah_Patel_PT]

I wanted to do my Anesth elective at this hospital and was wondering if someone could tell me how hands on it was? How was the teaching? What are the hours?
How hard is it to apply and get the dates of your choice? How long does it take them to process your application?

Any other opinions on electives such as GI or Hemato/Onc or neonatal ICU in this hospital or any other?

Thanks,

Disha


Very good place to do anest. Good teaching.

Hours: 7 to 4 PM

[MedChe]

If you're serious about Anesthesia, dont bother doing it at Maimo. Yes, it is a great learning rotation but the program has a new Chairman, Dr K, and he openly stated his preference for no longer taking Carib grads.

I suggest looking at other hospitals where: 1) you have an opportunity to actually match, 2) you have an opportunity to see a variety of cases, 3) you have an opportunity to get multiple, strong, LORs.

i agree with the above statement....and maimo is overrated anyway:evil:

[AxlFoley]

I had a couple freinds that did GI....and they said the same thing...CONSULTS all day. For the most part they got work independently and round with the team after seeing their own patients. Dont know if its like this for all students though...cant recall if there are any lectures or anything, but they enjoyed it

[AxlFoley]

Any recent nephrology experiences here?

[dishanarula]

Thanks for all the information guys. I love this forum! I submitted my application to Maim for anesth elective today...it's for a gap i have in my schedule in Jan 2008 (4 and a half months from now). Hopefully I will get a spot since I did it this early.

If I get it..great. If not, i'll look elsewhere. I'll update on what happens!

Thanks again to everyone.

[dishanarula]

my anesth elective got approved for the date I wanted....yay!!!

[AxlFoley]

Finished Radio couple months back.

Honestly an ok rotation at best. Very laid back. If you are studying for boards then this is THE rotation for you take. They do have a sign in sheet but I dont think anybody actually keeps track of students.

Typically your day begins at 8 AM with morning conf. After that you essentially hang around with one of the attendings while he reads radiographs until lunch time. The second half of the day is the same - read radiographs with a doc - until conf at 4 PM. However most all students dont stay the whole entire time.
But there will be some days you will and wont have conf. so check the schedule they give you (and the updates they post in front of the conf. room)

Attendings are real nice and do teach. Lectures during conf. are geared mainly towards residents tho, so for the most part its kind of a pain trying to understand. but overall an alright rotation

[ross_student05]

ANYONE know where and what time to report for surgery core???? Unbelievably (sarcasm), Ross advisors don't have any information about this and told me to call the hospital! The hospital contact wasn't available. PLEASE HELP!

[Captainwada]

Just finihshed Radio elective here. Very Laid back...like to the point..you don't exist. Don't get your eval from the Chest Doc as she will doesn't believe an "observer" student deserves an A and is lucky to even get a B. Not impressed w/ this rotation at all as compared to others ive done here.
Sadly, this dept. sucks!

[dishanarula]

I start anesth on Monday here and I'm not sure where and when to report. Any info would be great.

[shutterbugmd]

Observer student??? what do you mean?

[Captainwada]

In radio..all you do is observe .....ahahah thats what i mean

[shutterbugmd]

Can someone talk about the hours for the RAdio elective? any good attending I should try to follow if I want to learn something?? 8-)

[Captainwada]

Honestly hours for RADIO are up to u. I know students who showed up once/week. Personally I came everdya for 2 hours. IF you want, you could stay from 9-5PM but that is OVERkill..trust me..2 hours is plenty for looking at imaging...

[shutterbugmd]

do you just show up and seat next to the radiologist who's reading.. can you "rotate" through like invasive, echo, ct?? mri?? thanks!

[DaniellaM]

Do any of these electives have prerequisites? For example, can I do an anesthesiology elective without having done my surgery core rotation?

[AxlFoley]

do you just show up and seat next to the radiologist who's reading.. can you "rotate" through like invasive, echo, ct?? mri?? thanks!

Ya, what happens is the attending usually starts at around 9. So a bunch of students usually gather around him/her in one of the imaging rooms. One doc usually does abdominal CT's (dr. istria) and the other does chest radiographs (dr. twersky). But there are others. Then in the afternoon, same thing goes on pretty much. but their schedules may change a bit. The program director(dr. beltran) does musculoskeletal in his office every so often and he encourages students to show up....but its like a lot of the conferences, geared towards residents mainly.

as for "rotating" through different areas it may be doable depending on what areas. No one from my group rotated through nuclear, echo or anything. except 1 or 2 students were able to chill with the interventional guys a couple days a week. But the secretary seemed kind of hesitant in putting anymore, so its something you would do on your own. From what those students said, those IR docs were pretty open to it. As far as echo would go, you would have to talk to the cardiologists about that, but I doubt it. they're pretty busy.
if your interested in mammos, then there is one doc that takes students, except shes only there on fridays i think.


i only stayed half the day

[shutterbugmd]

thanks axl! did you use a book for the rotation?

[AxlFoley]

thanks axl! did you use a book for the rotation?


haha.... just kidding. actually I did have a book that i bought a year prior, but i hardly used it..... I actually spent my time reading cardiology (since i just finished my cardio elective there....trying to keep everything i learned in my head)

unless your serious about radiology....i say find a book in the library the first day or something.

[habs]

ok seriously, maimonides is my top choice of hospital to rotate at, but i am a canadian of non-jewish middle eastern origin (lebanese), will i run into trouble because of that like some one mentioned on this thread a couple of years ago or was that just a "disgruntled customer." i would really appreciate any insight, since if it would present serious problem for me i might have to reconsider. cheers.

[m77]

I was wondering about the radiology elective if you want to hook up with the IR docs are they open to having the students with them?

[ross_student05]

ok seriously, maimonides is my top choice of hospital to rotate at, but i am a canadian of non-jewish middle eastern origin (lebanese), will i run into trouble because of that like some one mentioned on this thread a couple of years ago or was that just a "disgruntled customer." i would really appreciate any insight, since if it would present serious problem for me i might have to reconsider. cheers.


I just finished 3 months of rotations there. I don't really look middle eastern unless i don't shave for couple days, but never once did i have anyone look at me oddly. There are middle eastern residents, students, and even Patients and I never once heard of a problem. Even in the surrounding areas when you go out to get some food there aren't any issues. Once in a while they would ask where i'm from in the states cause of the way i ordered or because I don't have a Brooklyn accent. thats about it though.
Half the nursing staff seems to be of some indian/muslim descent and they don't have problems. As long as you are friendly to everyone and don't give them evil looks, you should be fine. I took care of many jewish patients and they were nothing but nice in return.

So unless I missed something while i was there, and was totally oblivious... you shouldn't have to worry.

[DrVhi]

Hi everyone,
Has anyone completed a pediatric elective at Maimonides? If so, which ones? How was the elective in terms of hours, teaching, experience?

[ssg1980]

Hi,

Can anyone tell me how the Neurology elective is? What are the hours, is it worthwhile?

[Captainwada]

Currently doing EM now. 2 words...LOVE IT!!!
Attendings are AWESOME!! Teaching is better than any hospital yet...(I had same experience in ID here too!). Residents love to teach...Independence is up to you! You can draw blood, IVs, foleys, NG tubes, ...help run codes..
EM is split into 2 sections: ACUTE & NONacute..which is up to you to choose the area for your shift
You do 12 shifts of 8 hrs + 2 shifts of 12 hours (overnight) of which 2 shifts must be weekends. You get to choose your shifts which vary from 7AM-3PM, 9AM-5PM, 1PM-9PM, 3PM-11PM. They also have PEDS ER if you choose to do it (AWESOME Too!!)
Residents are cool and are EAGER to teach!!
this is my second week and I'm def gonna appy here for res!

[rockjock2010]

Hey Captain,
How is Dr P, shes my cousin and just got made chief resident?

[ross_student]

Can anyone suggest any Peds electives here that had good learning experience??

[got milk?]

no one has done NEPHROLOGY?

[facemask]

same question like 'gotmilk' - anyone with info on nephrology elective at maimonides? and how many months in advance do you need to apply for an elective here? thanks:)

[facemask]

c'mon guys...let's not get too competitive here. let's help each other out! anyone who did nephro here? any advice?

[DrVhi]

Most of the pediatric electives at Maimo are good. I completed Peds GI for the month of May 2008 and it was a great learning experience! You work directly with the attendings and maybe 1 or 2 residents; round on certain patients; attend endoscopy procedures; attend conferences with residents; and attend and other conferences strictly for the students. The chairmen of peds runs most of these conferences, which just shows you their dedication to teaching. I just completed Peds Pulmonology for the month of June 2008. It was so busy! Similar set up as Peds GI with conferences to attend, plus you get direct teaching 1 day per week with an Pediatric Allergist (who should write one of those "ridiculously simple" books, because he's so good at explaining allergy & immunology). You also get to attend bronchoscopy procedures and round on certain patients with the residents/attendings. To partially get a good grade you will need to be willing to leave as late as 7pm or 8pm on Monday and Thursday outpatient (clinic) days. But, you will learn a lot, just as I did! I had friends in Peds Neuro, they loved it! And, those neuro docs are really friendly and down-to-earth. I worked alongside them and other peds specialists in their clinic (i.e., The Peds Subspecialty Center). I heard that one of the Peds Endocrine attendings is too intense. I observed the Peds Nephro team in the clinic, the attending seems nice, teaches, but likes to pimp...their clinic can get busy; you will learn a lot without having to leave late. (The peds pulmo clinic is the only one that runs the latest in the whole center! Nephro and everyone else works decent hours and leaves by 5pm the latest.) Generally, the peds attendings like to have the students help with seeing the patients, examine, and present. It's good practice and learning, and if you do well, you'll likely get a good evaluation for your school and/or letter of recommendation for residency, and/or a guaranteed interview or spot at Maimonides!

[DrVhi]

Hi,

Can anyone tell me how the Neurology elective is? What are the hours, is it worthwhile?

A friend of mine is starting neuro today...says the schedule is about 9-5 (BUT, CAN GO AS LATE AS 7-8PM because one of the attendings takes a long time to round in the afternoon). Some mornings, you also round with a prominent stroke specialist. You will have some mornings of doing nothing...so it will be good enough to get some study time in their cozy library. afternoon rounds are mandatory. you're off on the weekends and have no calls.

[DrVhi]

Hi everyone,
Has anyone completed a pediatric elective at Maimonides? If so, which ones? How was the elective in terms of hours, teaching, experience?


Responding to my own questions:
Most of the pediatric electives are here good. I completed Peds GI for the month of May 2008 and it was a great learning experience! You work directly with the attendings and maybe 1 or 2 residents; attend conferences with residents and other conferences strictly for the students. The chairmen of peds run most of these conferences, which just shows you their dedication to teaching. I started peds pulmonology today and am told that it will busy. So, I hope to learn a lot. Also knew people completing peds neurology and peds nephrology and they loved it because of the hours and teaching. Also, with any Pediatric rotation/elective at Maimonides hospital you get free meal coupons and clean/crisp white coat with the Maimonides logo, which you can exchange bi-weekly for a new laundered jacket--all for free. Overall, they've got a lot of good programs and teach well, here. So, I'm definitely interested in applying here for residency.

[facemask]

hey drvhi, any idea how many months in advance you need to apply for an elective at maimonides? any idea how there nephrology elective is? appreciate any info.:)

[got milk?]

the commute to this hosp is horrible

[DrVhi]

hey drvhi, any idea how many months in advance you need to apply for an elective at maimonides? any idea how there nephrology elective is? appreciate any info.:)

hey FACEMASK, honestly i don't know how many months in advance you need to apply. i would just go ahead and try to schedule whenever you would like it for. if they have an opening, then you may likely get a spot. about 3 weeks ago, i requested radiology for end of july. so that's about 2 months advance, but it doesn't necessarily mean anything. just try for the time slot that you want. i don't know anyone doing adult nephrology here...only know a little about pediatric nephrology...which seems to be good hours/learning experience...and that attending likes to pimp (the residents at least)...but he's obviously not the same doc for adult nephro, so I can't speak on that one. also, this hospital, in general, is pretty good in replying to your elective/rotation requests within a few days (up to 1 week) whether or not you're approved. hope this helps somewhat.

[DrVhi]

the commute to this hosp is horrible
that depends on where you are driving or taking the train from. the D and M trains take you to Fort Hamilton Pkwy and 45th street and you walk up about 4 blocks. they could have a better bus line, though. i usually drive. i live about 10 minutes aways, but with traffic i get here in 20 minutes, which isn't so bad. generally, you can find a place to park on the side streets like 45th, 46, 47th, etc. or you can pay about $90/month to park in the garage. depending on what elective/rotation you are doing, you may or may not receive free breakfast/lunch coupons. the PEDS department is very generous to all their students because they give ALL of their students the free food coupons per month and 2 free parking passes per week.

[facemask]

drvhi, thanks for the help. i will look into maimonides to do an elective.:)

[shutterbugmd]

ER is full untill March of next year 8-(

[scottyhop76]

hey,
what other EM rotations are you looking at? im finding that alot of hospitals dont offer EM as an elective

[DrVhi]

hey,
what other EM rotations are you looking at? im finding that alot of hospitals dont offer EM as an elective
They offer adult and pediatric EM electives at Maimonides, Brooklyn Hospital, and perhaps also at Brookdale (in Brooklyn) and St. Barnabas (in the Bronx).

[Theruanway]

I am scheduled for Neurology for 4 weeks in Sept, anyone have any experience with the Neuro dept?

[ssg1980]

Hi,

I finished a Neuro elective here a few months ago. (It's funny, I put up a similar question before I started my elective and no one bothered to answer it.) In any case, it's a pretty nice elective. You start off around 9 with stroke rounds, then wait for the beeper to go off for consults. Basically you just do a consult, and then around 1 or 2ish you present to an attending. You will have a Neurology resident from some other hospital (I forgot the name) as well as a resident from Maimonides doing an elective with you. Sometimes, depending on the attending and the number of consults, the day can end around 6 or 7. Typically though you are out by 4 or 5. If you have any further questions, you can pm me. Good luck!

[DrVhi]

A friend of mine completed Neuro @ Maimo last month (June) and he said some nights he left as late as 8pm! Bring your books to study in the library, because you will have plenty of downtime with this elective when you're not doing a consult. So, good luck to you.

[got milk?]

try to avoid NEPHrology here.

grading is very difficult, and you work your butt off the whole day.

you're dog tired everyday, and you get a big kick in the butt at the end.

[gynogirl123]

Does anyone know what the hours are like at Maimo in any peds electives? I want to take an elective but I am also studying for my step 2. Thank you in advance.:)

[gynogirl123]

Does anyone know the hours of peds electives at Maimo? Thank you so much.:)

[DrVhi]

Peds electives are generally from 8am-5pm. They will work you hard so that you can really learn. I wouldn't do this if you are trying to study for your boards. Do radiology there instead. Good luck!

[AxlFoley]

Peds electives are generally from 8am-5pm. They will work you hard so that you can really learn. I wouldn't do this if you are trying to study for your boards. Do radiology there instead. Good luck!



ya ive never had a rotation as laid back as radio at maimo.....wow. one of the best to take if u gotta study

but they make up for it, because the other electives REALLY work you hard (nephro, neuro, GI, ID, anesthesia just to name a few...)
You will learn quite a bit though

[RVCA1981]

how do we schedule electives here? do we apply ourselves or through the clinical dept? Thanks

[DrVhi]

Go to their website, click on Undergraduate Interships, then click on Apply. You should click on their calendar to see the exact dates so that you can put that in your application.

[sprvs]

Can someone tell me what the hours are like for anesthesiology rotation at Maimonides hospital. Thanks.

[teamplayer]

i am also scheduled for anesthesiology here. Can anyone shed some light for this particular elective. Also, iam planning to take the CK during this time. Is that possible with this elective? Any help would be appreciated.