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Gator: Peds-Brookdale-the preceptor is very good and informative, but the rest of the rotation was just average at best. Unfortuantely, for step 2. I had to go and basically learn peds from Kaplan and First Aid. basically you spend each week in a diiferent area of peds, e.g. NICU, Floor, clinics.
Sukhtinder: Brookdale Hospital Medical Center, Brooklyn- great preceptor for peds, good teaching for step 2 CK. have to do a certain # of calls, which sucks.
Brookdale Hospital Medical Center, Brooklyn
saywhat
09-07-2005, 04:08 PM
Does anyone know anything about surgery and ob/gyn at Brookdale? Thanks.
wilscrews
11-03-2005, 03:15 PM
Does anyone know anything about surgery and ob/gyn at Brookdale? Thanks.
BUMP! Does anyone know anything about this site?
alpathmd
11-06-2005, 01:48 AM
BUMP! Does anyone know anything about this site?
It's in the ghetto...stay as far away from it as you can.
Peds was supposed to be really terrible there, but i think it's improved somewhat.
Gator98MD
11-06-2005, 02:51 PM
I did peds there in feb 2004 and I would say the statement below pretty much sums up my experience there.
It's in the ghetto...stay as far away from it as you can.
Peds was supposed to be really terrible there.
Chianti
11-09-2005, 06:46 AM
I recently did Peds there. It was a good experience. You see a lot on the wards and then every single afternoon you have about 2 hours of lecture on a topic: first a student presents, then the preceptor goes over it again. So if you pay attention in the afternoon lectures you're set as far as knowledge base goes.
The hospital is in the ghetto. The neighborhood makes the neighborhood that Wyckoff Heights is located in look like a great neighborhood. Its totally safe during the day, but you couldn't pay me enough money to walk 1 block away at night. DO NOT WALK AROUND THERE AT NIGHT!! I'm not exagerating. Again, I took the subway there every day and I was fine, but I wouldn't even think about it at night.
alpathmd
11-09-2005, 08:21 PM
I recently did Peds there. It was a good experience. You see a lot on the wards and then every single afternoon you have about 2 hours of lecture on a topic: first a student presents, then the preceptor goes over it again. So if you pay attention in the afternoon lectures you're set as far as knowledge base goes.
Glad to hear it has improved. Most likely, alot of students have complained or the rumor mill eventually gotten to Ross.
I think Ross lets your fill out evaluation forms about each rotation and most likely students have been honest about their experience.
homerbrave
11-10-2005, 09:36 PM
Does anyone know anything about surgery and ob/gyn at Brookdale? Thanks.
I did Ped. at Brookdale this year. Yes, the hospital is in a poor neighborhood but the education I received was good. The afternoon lectures are excellent. The morning lectures and grand rounds are informative too. Residents, attendings, and even the nurses are pleasant to work with.
ob/gyn, surgery- I spoke with several Ross, SGU, Nycom students rotating thru ob/gyn, surgery during the 6 weeks I was there and they all said they liked their rotations. All in all, Brookdale may lack the shiny floors, new computers, and sophisticated technology of most modern hospitals but it's a good teaching hospital and they do a pretty good treating patients despite the lack of resources.
FYI- we also have US med. students rotating through Brookdale and for those who think only Ross students can act lazy and cut corners then you haven't seen laziness until u see some of these other folks.
alpathmd
11-10-2005, 11:47 PM
FYI- we also have US med. students rotating through Brookdale and for those who think only Ross students can act lazy and cut corners then you haven't seen laziness until u see some of these other folks.
I agree....they are lazy, and have their noses in the air. I was assisting at a medical student lab last week. WOW, one of the students called the attending " RUDE" in front of the whole class. What guts! I couldn't even dare to speak to someone like that esp. during med school.
Chianti
11-12-2005, 10:38 AM
I have rotated with SUNY Downstate med students and Mt. Sinai med students.
The Downstate students are the biggest group of stuck-up dorks I've ever encountered. A bunch of tools.
The Sinai students were super-cool.
sexydoc07
12-11-2005, 05:58 PM
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bkpride
12-11-2005, 09:31 PM
Just finished there. Hours sucked, attendings were jerks and the residents/interns were just angry at the world and took it out on us. It sucked bad. I took the train/bus, but if they strike next week we all screwed. The place made me sick.the patients that were havin kids wanted nothin to do with them and nobody includin the docs cared. It really,really sucked bad. On the plus side its only 5 and a half weeks cause they cut you out on tuesday of week 6.If I could do it again I would do it anywhere but there.Good luck.Really-good luck.
peace
bkpride
12-11-2005, 09:32 PM
schedule is 7-6 0r7 q4 IF there enough students. we went down to q3 for 2 weeks.
peace
Jefrancesconi
01-11-2006, 09:11 AM
I am interested a sub-internship in surgery at Brookdale. Does anyone have any experiences that they would like to share that may be helpful?
Thank you
TheeeGod
05-04-2006, 02:41 PM
hows peds here? anyone with updated info?
saywhat
06-07-2006, 07:48 PM
I'm starting Peds there soon. I also need updated info (schedule/hours, parking, etc.). Anyone.. help?!
Can anyone tell me about the EM rotation at Brookdale? Hours, shifts per week, teaching, experience, grading, letters, etc. Thanks.
mpd210
06-13-2006, 02:44 PM
anyone do the psych rotation at brookdale? I heard they have a psych residency there so I was wondering how the rotation was. Also, are there any free electives there?
badnewsbearer
07-14-2006, 08:47 AM
Is this rotation ACGME?
I'm supposed to be starting EM there on Monday. Does anyone know who, when, and where I should be reporting to on the first day?
littleguy
09-19-2006, 01:47 PM
anyone have peds more recently and can tell me a bit about the hours they worked, what sort of teaching they received and their overall opinion about their experience? thanks, i appreciate it.
FoxTrot
09-20-2006, 07:51 PM
I'm scheduled for Cardio, GI, EM. Will these rotations be any good?
FoxTrot
09-23-2006, 12:13 AM
Scheduled for EM here in April 07. Even though Brookdale doesn't have an ACGME residency in EM, will it still be ok to do this elective and count as a ACGME rotation?
Junito
09-23-2006, 07:21 PM
It counts as an ACGME rotation due to its affiliation with SUNY Downstate (it is listed as a participating institution).
Scheduled for EM here in April 07. Even though Brookdale doesn't have an ACGME residency in EM, will it still be ok to do this elective and count as a ACGME rotation?
ross_student05
12-04-2006, 02:36 PM
Any recent experiences in the surgery rotation here?
Junito
12-04-2006, 04:35 PM
How is Internal medicine here? Thinking about doing a Sub I...
ross_student05
12-08-2006, 12:12 PM
Hasn't anyone taken peds here? I'm scheduled for it at Brookdale over a year from now thanks to the back up of half the cores. ANy info on it would be good so I can change it now!
Junito
12-28-2006, 09:45 PM
Check the ACGME site, the accreditation for the OB/GYN residency has been withdrawn and will take effect on June 30th of 2007. For those who are scheduled to do an OB/GYN rotation there after that date beware!
blue202md
06-18-2007, 02:57 PM
Hi,
Does anyone know the hours/schedule for peds at Brookdale? Do we wear scrubs or dressup? How are the computers? Can we do World questions there? Any help/info would be great
Tnx in advance
Scheduled for EM here in April 07. Even though Brookdale doesn't have an ACGME residency in EM, will it still be ok to do this elective and count as a ACGME rotation?
For California, it will count as ACGME. Not sure about Texas because I don't know enough about Texas licensure requirements. Brookdale ED does have EM residents from other programs rotating there so it's at least affiliated with ACGME EM residencies.
Chianti
06-20-2007, 01:01 PM
Brookdale ED rotation is good for all 50 states. It is ACGME.
Diegodoc
07-24-2007, 09:45 AM
Doing peds here now.. one week left in the rotation. I will say the rotation itself is one big disappointment. I was actually looking forward to my peds rotation and have been sadly disappointed. It is a complete waste of time. Now for those of you who want to disappear, and have easy hours, this is most definitely the place to be. Afternoon lectures are decent, although the students are presenting and the preceptor goes over the topic again in way too much detail. Have to do 5 "calls", which techinically are over by 5pm you just have to have a resident sign off on them, which is easy enough to do. Best weeks are er and nicu. PM me if you have any other questions. Oh and i second what others have said about the neighborhood.. not a safe area at all!
rimon7381
07-25-2007, 04:39 PM
Doing peds here now.. one week left in the rotation. I will say the rotation itself is one big disappointment. I was actually looking forward to my peds rotation and have been sadly disappointed. It is a complete waste of time. Now for those of you who want to disappear, and have easy hours, this is most definitely the place to be. Afternoon lectures are decent, although the students are presenting and the preceptor goes over the topic again in way too much detail. Have to do 5 "calls", which techinically are over by 5pm you just have to have a resident sign off on them, which is easy enough to do. Best weeks are er and nicu. PM me if you have any other questions. Oh and i second what others have said about the neighborhood.. not a safe area at all!
hey diegodoc,
I am going to Brookdale for peds soon. i was wondering about the hours for peds rotation, like what time do you have to go in and what time do you get out everyday. How are the ppl, the attendings, nurshing staff etc...... friendly? So what do you do all day if you can provide some info regarding that it'll be great so I'll know what to expect once I go there. You mentioned it's a big waste of time so does that mean you don't do anything and just go and sit there?...maybe this way I can study for step 2 if I don't get to do anything. Any advice/tips on what to expect once I go there will be great. Thanks for your time.
Hypnotiq1121
07-26-2007, 10:18 AM
Hello all..I am scheduled to do Peds, IM and Psych at Brookdale. Any thoughts or comments? I have heard about Peds but has anyone done IM or psych there? Thanks
Diegodoc
07-26-2007, 01:45 PM
Hey there Rimon,
Peds is a joke, you will definitely have time to study. You spend one week in every area. So.. ER, PICU,Nursery,Adolescent,Child wards,and clinic. Most of the time you can "disappear" after lecture at 12:30. ER week you will end up staying in the afternoon. You are technically supposed to be there until 5, but no one in my group EVER stayed. You are also supposed to do 5 calls until 11pm. Most of my calls were signed out at around 1pm. THere is just not a whole lot to do. Nurses are hit and miss, attendings are all nice. Residents.. are ok. I am here at a bad time since we have all new interns which are really just like 4th year med students. Lectures are decent. You will definitely have plenty of time to study, and Brookdale has one of the nicer libraries of all the hospitals i have rotated, so it is a good place to study. There is USMLE World on all the computers. Good luck.
Michele
saywhat
07-27-2007, 09:36 AM
peds at Brookdale is how you just described except we had to stay til 4-5 for his lectures most days (but that just means you waste time to stay there for mandatory lecture, since there's not much to do during the day)...you just do morning rounds on most weeks and ER makes you stay a little more... the preceptor in the rotation is a pretty cool dude..he's just a little too detailed and outdated with his info (we cited things and he refused to acknowledge he was wrong)...I did the rotation summer 2006, so maybe it changed.. good luck
Diegodoc
08-01-2007, 07:34 PM
lecture time has changed to 11am which makes it possible to get out by 12:30 everyday.
Cuando2
08-07-2007, 12:33 AM
I heard the lecture was purposefully kept in the late afternoon just to force students to hang around in the hallways and cram into the nursing nutrition centers and eat all the patient's jell-o, juice and snacks.
the main preceptor was worthless. he kept saying "eh?" "eh?" after every word...that was the highlight of the rotation. he DID give a few good pointers and decent lectures, but once the students took over with lectures, things went downhill sharply. The weekly sub-rotations themselves were completely useless, except the one you do if you have the main preceptor as your attending. I'll bet those residents working there were MAJORLY desperate for a residency to be working in that place...everything is done manually like it probably was in the late 70s and 80s. this was probably one of my most depressing rotations.
AxlFoley
08-08-2007, 06:52 PM
lecture time has changed to 11am which makes it possible to get out by 12:30 everyday.
oh wow....was that specificially for your rotation, or is it a permanent change?
Hypnotiq1121
09-28-2007, 02:38 PM
does anyone have any info on parking here? how much is it for students to park in their garage?
tssme
11-12-2007, 04:20 PM
Does anyone have any info about hours/education for the psych rotation? Please respond.
wildream
12-16-2007, 10:03 PM
Hello guys, I am scheduled for a medicine Sub-I at Brookdale hospital and I was wondering if anyone has done a med Sub-I there that can give me some idea of how it is. I would really appreciate it. Thanks
medNoir
12-18-2007, 10:29 PM
parking: parking garage. $10/day
or you get a stick-on transponder for $7/12hr period and you add money into it like a debit card. There is a covered walkway to the hospital.
medicine sub-I: You are assigned to a team (2 interns, 1 resident, 1 attending) and follow them around doing stuff for them. They put no pressure on you, no regular duties. So if you want to slack, they will let you, and they will remember it. Or if you want to work hard, they will let you, and they will remember it. Each intern does short call (till 9pm) q4. If that call falls on a fri or sat then it's 24 hrs. Again, if you want to stay for that, they will let you and they will remember it. The above is the same for a regular core medicine rotation. Except as a sub-I they expect more knowledge, initiative and skills from you. Meanwhile, you are given a topic to read up and present about every other day.
The interns are very busy, each one covers 10-12 patients. So they appreciate any help you offer. Which sure beats working like a dog and still getting yelled at.
wildream
12-19-2007, 09:55 AM
Thanks a lot for the info. So if I had a bad Medicine core rotation and I worked hard during this Sub-I do you think I will learn a lot in those 4 weeks?
medNoir
01-09-2008, 08:35 PM
The learning was 90% self-motivated self-initiated.
There were a couple of sit-down-discussions per week.
Else you follow the interns around.
Then its up to you to read the charts on your own time and look up things on your own time.
A good place to practice with butterfly's and ABG's.
mapleLeaf
01-23-2008, 02:13 PM
I'm scheduled for a Psych rotation here. I noticed the last few pleas for info about this rotation went unheeded. Does anyone know anything about this the Psych rotation at this hospital?
Psalm139
01-28-2008, 07:21 AM
Does anyone know about Psych at Brookdale!?!?!?!? Anything will be greatly appreciated!!!! Thank You!
Psalm139
01-30-2008, 06:34 AM
hi mapleleaf...did u find any info on the psych rotation at Brookdale?!?!? Thanks for any information.
mapleLeaf
02-13-2008, 12:03 AM
Nothing yet. I do it in a few months. So let me know how it goes if you're doing it sooner.
rotationswanted
02-26-2008, 05:04 PM
Hello, I am scheduled for Peds core at Wyckoff for July 7th, 2008. I would like to know if any body would be interested in trading my peds july rotation for your june peds rotation (ANY hospital would do). Thanks, please get in contact with me, 347-768-2018. Ask for Jay.
Good luck to everyone else.
finallydoc2b
04-29-2008, 12:27 AM
Can anyone give me a break down of what peds is like here? I start in a few weeks.
How is the surgery core at Brookdale (hours, teaching, etc)??
Ddann
05-15-2008, 01:40 PM
Anyone need a place to live while doing rotations at Brookdale, Maimonides, or King's County. I'm currently doing my rotations at Brookdale and then Maimonides and King's County and my place is close to all of them. Located in Kensington, partially furnished(futon and wardrobe), 2 bedroom share with very larger bright bedroom for you. Steps to anything you'd need(restaurants, grocery, shops, laundromat). Very clean place with the rest of the apartment furnished. Steps to the subway and buses to all of these hospitals in the safest neighborhood in Brooklyn. Call Omar at 646-761-7916 or email at omarelghawanmeh(at)hotmail.com
Dr. Richard Less
07-14-2008, 08:11 PM
any word on surgery here? hours? attendings?
HaitianSensation
07-16-2008, 02:56 PM
would anyone like to switch brookdale peds start dates? I start peds November 10, 2008, and would like to switch to the one that starts on September 29, 2008. If so please PM me or email me at h4iti4ns3ns4tion@aol.com
AFGHAN_MD
07-23-2008, 08:22 PM
Can anyone give me some updated info on the peds rotation at brookdale. I know it's been discussed but anything new from someone who is there now or recently finished would be helpful.
AxlFoley
09-02-2008, 06:52 PM
Can anyone give me some updated info on the peds rotation at brookdale. I know it's been discussed but anything new from someone who is there now or recently finished would be helpful.
In short, it hasnt changed much. The mandatory "signout" is still at 3PM as of May 2008....and he still doesnt show up till later. Signout on thursday is at 1:00(but he still shows up late) . But you HAVE to make sure you go.
you have to do a power point, 2 exams, and a writeup
rossmd122009
09-03-2008, 09:31 PM
Hi everyone. I'm scheduled for Psych and IM at Brookdale University Hospital. I was just wondering if anyone will be so kind as to provide some information regarding Brookdale. How are Psych and IM rotations there? Just how bad is the area? Have ppl had good/bad experiences? For those students who have rotated at WHMC in Brooklyn and Brookdale, which is better for rotations?
I know I have a lot of questions... But thanks for any imput you provide.
DrVhi
09-05-2008, 10:51 AM
Hi,
I am scheduled to do a neurology elective at Brookdale hospital later this month. Has anyone done neuro at this hospital? If so, what's the rotation like? How is the teaching? What are the hours like? Please let me know.
Thanks!:)
GoodStuff!
09-08-2008, 07:50 AM
What date is the surgery core in November starting on?
ross2009
09-17-2008, 10:05 PM
I have Peds scheduled here from Nov 10th to Dec 19th. Would someone like to switch Peds with me if you have Peds starting late January or early February?
premed
09-25-2008, 09:50 AM
I just did Neurology rotation at Brookdale. Its a very good rotation learning wise and the hours are very reasonable. The day starts around 10:30 w/ stroke round. The team consists of the attending, 2-3 residents who are rotating through neurology (brookdale does not have neurology residency), 1-2 students. The attendings are very cool, very interested in teaching the students. There is noon medicine grand round, they tell you to go to it but its kind of optional. The rest of the day you do consults. You go see the patient and write the consult then the attending goes and sees the patient with you. You also go with the attending to see other consults that are done by PAs and other residents. The day usually ends around 6-7pm.
teamplayer
09-25-2008, 01:17 PM
Does anybody have any idea how surgery is here? any input is appreciated.
DrVhi
09-25-2008, 06:47 PM
Dear Premed,
Thanks for your feedback. I wish it had arrived sooner because if I knew about the hours, I would've requested to complete this rotation elsewhere, such as Wyckoff Hospital where Neuro is only from 6am-8am or 10am -12pm, and I would be assured an A grade. Whereas here at Brookdale, the hours can go even longer than 7pm. One night (last week) another student and I stayed until 8pm! Had we not asked to leave at that time, the attending would've kept rounding until 9 or 10pm with us! After that, we've been pretty damn adamant to inform them that our hours are only supposed to be from 9am-5pm. Sure, we're learning a lot from them, but we don't need to stay there all evening. We have lives and families, and unlike the attendings, residents, and PAs, we are not getting compensated for all those extra hours! If you're thinking about or already have your mind set to go into Neuro, then this is a great place for you to get that experience. If on the other hand, you are like me, near the end of your 4th year and need time to get things done in your personal life like applying for residency, going on interviews, or even studying for your boards, then I highly recommend that you complete this elective at another hospital like Wyckoff where you'll definitely have more time on your hands to take care of your personal issues. I'm honestly making the best of my opportunity in Neuro at Brookdale. However, I'm undecided as to whether or not I'll put in another late night, as I doubt I'll get an A from them (most likely a B or B+), and my grades won't be back in time for my residency application anyway, so gettin an A would'nt even matter except for my own personal gratification. I think if you stay late most nights with them, then you're likely guaranteed an A, but why slave away like that unless you really love Neuro?!!
txdoc22
10-27-2008, 03:56 PM
Has anyone done psych at Brookdale? I have seen pleas for info but no posted info yet. Thanks
shutterbugmd
11-11-2008, 12:36 PM
psych @ brookdale! any info please post!
kkmdmph2b
11-14-2008, 08:18 PM
How is surgery at brookdale?
TheYoda
11-20-2008, 02:48 PM
I have Wyckoff Surgery starting Dec.22th... and i'm wondering if someone would switch with me that has surgery @ Brookdale
heartmd10
12-16-2008, 03:11 PM
How is Peds at brookdale? any info will be great!
godzfav
12-16-2008, 06:32 PM
hi.. i would also like to know how Peds is at brookdale.. any information will be helpful.. i dont start there for a while but just want to get head up.. also if its not that good any one know any good site so i can try to change it... thanks
AxlFoley
12-18-2008, 02:46 AM
hi.. i would also like to know how Peds is at brookdale.. any information will be helpful.. i dont start there for a while but just want to get head up.. also if its not that good any one know any good site so i can try to change it... thanks
I did mine back in May 2008
Its ok. Not the greatest, but then again, it is a Peds rotation. I say hold on to it. If you can find something else sooner then thats fine, but peds cores are already hard to get...
essentially the rotation is broken in to 2 blocks. 3 weeks on the floors(picu also), and 3 weeks not on the floors (ER, NICU, clinic). The 3 you spend on the floors is pretty much mandatory as the director came in and checked up on us. I guess before , people hardly showed up at all. The next 3 weeks nobody keeps track of you..since you are in clinic, ER, or NICU. So many students went to the lib to study.
However there is a mandatory lecture and sign-out everyday at 3 PM. and you HAVE to be present. As this is the only time the director who evaluates you, gets to see you. he never shows up till like almost 4, so that kinda sux. Students lecture on topics, (1 per day) and he gives his own version afterwards.
I dont know if the rotation changed too much, but that was my experience in brief, as of May 2008.
sonyvaio
12-18-2008, 09:58 PM
hey are there any places to live here for the brookdale rotation? like to be able to move in next week, message me back.
godzfav
12-25-2008, 01:55 PM
thx for the reply.. ya i am just gonna keep it
I did mine back in May 2008
Its ok. Not the greatest, but then again, it is a Peds rotation. I say hold on to it. If you can find something else sooner then thats fine, but peds cores are already hard to get...
essentially the rotation is broken in to 2 blocks. 3 weeks on the floors(picu also), and 3 weeks not on the floors (ER, NICU, clinic). The 3 you spend on the floors is pretty much mandatory as the director came in and checked up on us. I guess before , people hardly showed up at all. The next 3 weeks nobody keeps track of you..since you are in clinic, ER, or NICU. So many students went to the lib to study.
However there is a mandatory lecture and sign-out everyday at 3 PM. and you HAVE to be present. As this is the only time the director who evaluates you, gets to see you. he never shows up till like almost 4, so that kinda sux. Students lecture on topics, (1 per day) and he gives his own version afterwards.
I dont know if the rotation changed too much, but that was my experience in brief, as of May 2008.
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