New Sub-Forum

[Dru]

Hi, folks!! This forum has been developed in an effort to continue the preservation of information about Ross clinical sites in the U.S. I will try to transfer as much info to it as possible from the "sticky" previously developed for the same purpose. If new threads are posted on the Ross Forum about the topic, I will transfer them to here to the appropriate thread. We can keep individual threads about each clinical site, and it will hopefully aid you in knowing a little more about each hospital. I will moderate the sub-forum, so keep it clean and follow the TOS. :)

Best wishes to all of you!!
Dru

[Dru]

I have been waiting for the current up-to-date list of current clinical sites for RUSM. They were requested from the Director or Clinical Education, and her assistant has emailed the following information. I'm am forwarding it directly to you. (Received and posted on 5/4/05)
TO CHECK WHICH ROTATION IN WHICH FACILITY IS ACGME v.s. AOA GO TO:

http://www.acgme.org/adspublic/


HOSPITAL AFFILIATIONS

Ross University has affiliation agreements with over 40 teaching hospitals. Students can elect to participate in clinical training in affiliated teaching hospitals in the U.S. or in Dominica.



CALIFORNIA
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center, Colton, CA
Kern Medical Center, Bakersfield, CA
Metropolitan State Hospital, Norwalk, CA

CONNECTICUT
Griffin Hospital, Derby, CT
St. Mary’s Hospital, Waterbury, CT

FLORIDA
Greater Miami Health Education
& Training Centers, Miami, FL
Larkin Community Hospital, Miami, FL

GEORGIA
Southwest Georgia Family Medicine,
Albany, GA

ILLINOIS
Jackson Park Hospital, Chicago, IL
******* Reese Medical Center, Chicago, IL
St. Anthony’s Hospital, Chicago, IL

INDIANA
St. Mary’s Medical Center, Evansville, IN

MARYLAND
Harbor Hospital Center, Baltimore, MD
Holy Cross Hospital, Silver Spring, MD
Prince George's Hospital Center, Cheverly, MD
Spring Grove Hospital Center, Catonsville, MD
St. Agnes Hospital, Baltimore, MD
Union Memorial, Baltimore, MD

MASSACHUSETTS
Cape Cod Hospital, Hyannis, MA

NEW JERSEY
Raritan Bay Medical Center, Perth-Amboy, NJ
Trinitas Hospital, Elizabeth, NJ
St. Mary’s Hospital, Hoboken, NJ
Bergen Regional Medical Center, Paramus, NJ

NEW YORK
Bronx-Lebanon Hospital Center, Bronx, NY
Brookdale Hospital Medical Center
Brooklyn, NY
Catholic Medical Center, Jamaica, NY
Hospital for Joint Diseases, New York, NY
Jamaica Hospital Medical Center, Jamaica, NY
King’s County Hospital Center, Brooklyn, NY
Long Beach Medical Center, Long Beach, NY
Long Island College Hospital, Brooklyn, NY
Lutheran Medical Center, Brooklyn, NY
Maimonides Medical Center, Brooklyn, NY
Mount Vernon Hospital, Mt. Vernon, NY
Peninsula Hospital, Far Rockaway, NY
Queens Hospital Center, Jamaica, NY
Rochester General Hospital, Rochester, NY
St. Clare's Hospital of Schenectady, NY
St. Barnabas Hospital (NYC)
St. John’s Episcopal Hospital
Far Rockaway, NY
Wyckoff Hts. Medical Center, Brooklyn, NY

NEVADA
West Hills Hospital, Reno, NV

OHIO
Huron Hospital, Cleveland, OH

WASHINGTON, D.C.
St. Elizabeth Hospital, Washington, DC
National Institutes of Health/NIH

COMMONWEALTH OF DOMINICA,
WEST INDIES
Princess Margaret Hospital, Roseau, Dominica

[singer]

Dru:

Good idea on the sub-forum for clinicals. The list from Ross has the affiliated hospitals but it would be nice if they listed which core clinical rotations are approved by Ross incase a student wants to request a particular rotation. Also if they could indicate on the list which rotations are ACGMe and which are DO that would also be very helpful. It seems that Ross should have this information but refuse to divulge it publicly. Sometimes trying to find the info on the ACGME site becomes difficult.

[alpathmd]

Here are 2 additional hospitals in the Baltimore, MD area:

Maryland General Hospital: able to do electives there, easy scheduling, ask Ross for the contact # for the medical education co-ordinator.

Shepherd Pratt: most likely able to do a Psyche Elective here.

[saywhat]

Does anyone know what surgery is like at Brookdale hospital? How about at CMC? Thanks.

[Dru]

The following thread contains important informative data:


http://www.valuemd.com/threadnav5980-3-10.html

[singer]

Ross has added afew new clinical sites.

Riverside County Regional med center, Ca. (all cores andelectives)

St Vincents medical center , CT (Im and surgery)

Commache County hospital , OK (FM)

Hope this helps!

[Dru]

For a chart with individual state's requirements for medical licensure, see:

http://www.valuemd.com/medicalboards.php

[twosuave]

Can Ross students do all cores and electives at Riverside ?

[Dru]

This would be a good question to ask Dr. Perry, who is charge of clinical education. After you get your answer, please post on the Riverside thread. Thanks.

[CaribKari]

Central Maine Medical Center, used by Dartmouth and UVM, are willing and able to accept Ross students for clerkships and electives. They have an ACGME Family Practice program. They not only offer core FP but electives in just about every specialty, have a new Heart and Vascular Institute, offer free/low cost housing, free parking and meals while on duty. Lewiston, Maine is a little off the beaten track but the people are friendly, the working environment is good and, if you like lakes and mountains, it is a very cool place.

Look at their website: http://www.cmmc.org/emp-familypractice.html and/or contact your clinical advisor about the clerkship.

[Dru]

In order to be able to practice in ALL 50 states, it is necessary to only pick 12 weeks or less from DO sites. The following is a list of ACGME sites.

Although some rotations at certain hospitals may be ACGME approved through secondary institution, this is information directly from the ACGME website.



OHIO

Huron
General surgery
Internal medicine
ILLINOIS

Jackson Park
Family medicine


CALIFORNIA

Arrowhead Regional
Family medicine
Geriatrics
Kern

Emergency medicine
Family medicine
Internal medicine
OB/GYN
Psychiatry
General surgery
CONNECTICUT
· Griffin
o Internal medicine
o Preventative medicine

· St. Mary’s Hospital
o Internal medicine
o General surgery

· St. Vincent’s
o Internal medicine
o Radiology



INDIANA

St. Mary’s Medical Centre
Family medicine
MARYLAND

Harbor
Internal medicine
Prince George’s

Internal medicine
St. Agnes

Internal medicine
General surgery
Union Memorial

Internal medicine
Orthopedic Surgery (various types)
General Surgery

Part II will follow soon.

SPECIAL THANKS TO: McGillGrad

[Dru]

Although some rotations at certain hospitals may be ACGME approved through secondary institution, this is information directly from the ACGME website.


New Jersey · Bergen

Psychiatry
· Raritan

Internal Medicine
New York
Bronx-Lebanon Hospital Center, Bronx, NY
Family Medicine
Internal Medicine
Pediatrics
OB/GYN
Psychiatry
General Surgery
Gastroenterology
Pulmonary Disease
Ophthalmology
Addictive Psychology
Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
Radiology-Diagnostic

Brookdale Hospital Medical Center, Brooklyn, NY
Anesthesiology
Internal Medicine
Pediatrics
OB/GYN
Psychiatry
General Surgery
Pain Medicine
Nephrology
Hematology-Oncology
Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
Urology

Hospital for Joint Diseases, New York, NY
Selective Pathology

Long Island College Hospital, Brooklyn, NY
Internal Medicine
Pediatrics
OB/GYN
Allergy
Gastroenterology
Nephrology
Radiology-Diagnostic
Lutheran Medical Center, Brooklyn, NY
Family Medicine
Internal Medicine
OB/GYN

Maimonides Medical Center, Brooklyn, NY
Internal Medicine
Pediatrics
OB/GYN
Psychiatry
General Surgery
Anesthesiology
Emergency medicine
Cardiovascular disease
Critical care medicine
Gastroenterology
Infectious disease
Pulmonary disease
Geriatric medicine
Interventional cardiology
Hematology and Oncology
Orthopaedic Surgery
Radiology-diagnostic
Vascular Surgery
Urology

Mount Vernon Hospital, Mount Vernon, NY
Internal medicine

Rochester General Hospital, Rochester, NY
Internal Medicine
OB/GYN
Radiology-diagnostic

Saint Barnabas Hospital, Bronx, NY
Internal Medicine
Pediatrics

Saint Clare's Hospital of Schenectady, Schenectady, NY
Family Medicine

Saint John's Episcopal Hospital, Far Rockaway, NY
Internal medicine

Wyckoff Heights Medical Center, Brooklyn, NY
Family medicine

Ohio
Huron
Internal Medicine
General Surgery

Washington DC
St. Elizabeth’s
Psychiatry
Wisconsin
Mercy Health Systems
Family medicine
Sports medicineSpecial thanks to McGillGrad

[BackindaUSA]

Hi all. I have a problem with the way Ross handles the clinicals. I know they are busy, but not that busy. I had to find all my own sites, yes, they did give me a few numbers to call.

If you need help and want to come the Chicago let me know I will pass what I have learned. My email is rosshardroad@yahoo.com.

I will make sure you are not one of the crazy kids who have been accessing our sites. If your from Ross you will be able to answer my questions about the island. And you can ask away as well. Best to you all.

[AriVederci]

Can anyone provide some insight to this new ROSS affiliate!
I would really appreciate it.
I have a Psychiatric Core rotation coming up

ari vederci

[bevo]

there isn't a thread started for Jackson Park Hospital.

[Gizmo]

Do you really have to travel to several clinical sites to complete rotations? After completing the intro in Miami, can you finish up at one site/state/city?

[Dru]

Gizmo,
I think it all depends on what you want. There are several sites that offer most or all of the core and elective rotations. There is an advantage of practicing in several different institutions, as it will make you more well-rounded. I know if you go to brooklyn, you can get your cores and electives between Kings County and Wycoff, but it might do you good to be able to go to your home state and do somthing, too. The advantage of staying in one area is that you are able to obtain a more "long-term" lease for more than 12 months, and this will lower your rent. At any rate, you need to determine what is right for you and share that with your clinical advisor, so they can plan your path WITH you. Find out early on what mode of communication your advisor prefers...some seem to gravitate to emails and some to the phone.

[fog]

Anyone do any electives at Long Island College Hopital in Brooklyn? And has anyone else had a problem with getting an elective at Maimonides? I've submitted about 3 requests since last fall, and still nothing. What gives?! Thanks, guys!

[martinchen3]

Hi, I am the accepted student od Ross University School of Medicine. I just wanted to know is that true not everyone who goes Ross can do the rotation in the U.S., school might send students to England or other places. At the end the U.S. does not acknowlegde tose who did not do rotation in the U.S.. So those people are stuck outside of the U.S. I heard this from one of my friends, whose friend's son went to Ross and stuck in England.

Thanks

[Dru]

My understanding is that UK hospitals are ACGME, so they should be recognized as such. I don't understand how a Ross grad can be "stuck" in England. Each state in the US has their own game plan for licensure, so if you plan to do any clinical rotations in the UK, it would make sense to check with the state that you wish to be licensed in and see if it is OK. Doing a clinical in England would not prevent you from coming back to the US, but it may preclude licensure in a particular state.

[Dru]

This is a link for hospitals that accept foreign medical students for electives:

http://services.aamc.org/eec/student.cfm

[drJAvedIA]

hello,
i wanted to know if anyone has done any of thier rotations at st.joseph provena hospital. particularly the internal med program? also, wanted to know if anyone has had experiance with rotations at m.reese for im and other cores, st.anthony?
thanks!
dr.mj

[Dru]

Hi all!! I continue to receive positive feed-back regarding the Ross Clinical Sub-Forum. I have updated it and made some changes.

I have deleted several threads regarding sites that are no longer used by Ross. They include:
1. Nassau County Medical Center in East Meadow
2. Mary Immaculate Hospital in Far Rockaway
3. Shepherd Pratt
4. Commanche Hospital in Oklahoma

I have added the following sites, as they are now listed on the RUSM website as new clinical sites:
1. Greater Miami Health Education and Training Centers in South Miami
2. North General Hospital in New York

I accidentally had two threads for Brookdale in New York, so I have merged the information on the two threads to form one.

Please DO continue to post information on the various sites including:
* which core or elective you completed at the site
* your opinion of the site and experience
* typical hours and amount of shift rotation &/or on-call requirements
* suggestions for safe places to live near the individual site

DO NOT start threads regarding clinical sites on the general Ross Forum, or they will be locked and linked to the sub-forum. Preserving posts about clinical sites on the sub-forum prevents your important information from being buried or lost.

DO NOT post useless or unrelated information or questions, such as "how do I transfer to Ross?" If you have rental leads or household goods to sell, please use the Ross Classified Sub-Forum.

Thanks for your continued understanding and support! Best of luck as you search for and complete your clinical clerkships.

[Jason Howard]

DRU-I know I am posting in the wrong thread but I am sort of new to this. I am wondering when one completes a clinical packet, how far does the background check go back? I have a misdemeanor that occured over ten years ago and am concerned about it. All responses will me most appreciated. Respectfully, potential medical applicant(pma)

[medNoir]

Can we start a discussion that brings together in one place, your votes on which rotations are the best for their respective disciplines ?

This dicussion should only be about why you thought their quality of education and/or experience was among the best that Ross can offer.

This dicussion should not be about complaining about bad rotations. There's plenty of room in the other threads for that. Only talk about the ones you think, IYHO, is the best rotation for that subject.

This dicussion should not be about daily living details such as parking, tolls, housing, where you show up for the first day, places to eat, etc.

This discussion should try not to talk about hospitals Ross no longer has. I know that's difficult since we lose them regularly. But at least don't say "I loved my XXX rotation at Jamaica Hosp. 2 years ago because we got to do stuff that no one is allowed to do anymore such as:..."

[k-23]

hi. i'm currently in maryland doing psych but in a little bit i start at prince george than harbor. does anyone know anything about prince george? is it greenbook for obgyn? what is the housing situation like? i am scheduled for radiology, nuclear medicine, and obgyn at pg and would like to know if any of these are any good. thanks.

[Dru]

I have started 2 test threads to vote for the best rotations. So far I put up ones for IM and Surgery.

As far as background checks, (please correct me if I am wrong), I don't think misdemenors count, especially if they were long ago.

[chickshpro]

Can anyone provide some insight to this new ROSS affiliate!
I would really appreciate it.
I have a Psychiatric Core rotation coming up

ari vederci

Hi I know u posted this a while back but any inside info on the psychiatric rotation? I start Feb 19...any housing advice? Thanks

[gschneid]

I see on the Ross website that there is a Southwest Washington Med. Center. Anybody know what the deal is with that? Is that new? I don't remember seeing it before

[gschneid]

To kind of answer my own question...I went to the hospital's website and they only have FP residency. So I assume you could only do FP rotation there. Their current residents include a lot of FMG's including a Ross, Saba, and St. Matt's.

[Amyloidosis]

couldn't start a new thread so here it is:

Hey guys,

I have a question regarding the electives. I know we have to do Green Book core rotations to be licensed in most states. Is it the same case with electives or the electives don’t matter whether they are green book or not? I am planning on going into IM right now and the hospital I am doing my IM right now they offer Green Book IM core rotation but their Sub-I electives like Cardiology, GI, Nephrology etc. are not green book….so if I do my electives there…is it going to be okay?? I plan on practicing in NY/NJ area and I checked the medical board websites….but didn’t find anything regarding the electives being green book or not to be licensed in NY/NJ area. If anyone can answer this question or direct me to the specific website would be a great help. Thank you.

[rokshana]

couldn't start a new thread so here it is:

Hey guys,

I have a question regarding the electives. I know we have to do Green Book core rotations to be licensed in most states. Is it the same case with electives or the electives don’t matter whether they are green book or not? I am planning on going into IM right now and the hospital I am doing my IM right now they offer Green Book IM core rotation but their Sub-I electives like Cardiology, GI, Nephrology etc. are not green book….so if I do my electives there…is it going to be okay?? I plan on practicing in NY/NJ area and I checked the medical board websites….but didn’t find anything regarding the electives being green book or not to be licensed in NY/NJ area. If anyone can answer this question or direct me to the specific website would be a great help. Thank you.

which school are you at since you have managed to post this exact same thread on the sgu, ross, and auc clinical fora?

there are many threads on this topic--do a search.

[pinksophistication]

i actually have the same question so if anyone has constructive answer please reply! asking the same question on different threads is not a big deal, nor is it a big deal which school the poster is at; at the end of the day we are all carib med schools and are in similar situations.

thanks!

[rokshana]

i actually have the same question so if anyone has constructive answer please reply! asking the same question on different threads is not a big deal,

actually it is, its against TOS

nor is it a big deal which school the poster is at;

it can make a difference, while yes, we will all be caribbean grads, the places we do our clinical clerkships are not the same (there is some overlap) and giving information about a hospital where sgu students rotate is not at all helpful to a saba student (and vice versa)

at the end of the day we are all carib med schools and are in similar situations.

thanks!

and again this is not a new topic- there are many threads on this topic, many actually active at this moment. For a general question like this you should do a search to see if you can get an answer, then when you have more specific question, then post a question- you will get a better response (note no one else has responsed to this,and his other numerous posts, -there is a reason why).

[Amyloidosis]

Quote:
nor is it a big deal which school the poster is at;
"it can make a difference, while yes, we will all be caribbean grads, the places we do our clinical clerkships are not the same (there is some overlap) and giving information about a hospital where sgu students rotate is not at all helpful to a saba student (and vice versa)"

Yes, that is true but Rokshana, I didn't ask about information on a particular hospital sgu/saba students rotate at. I asked a question that applies to all the caribbean grads regardless of if the student is going to either sgu/ross/saba/auc/smu etc.

"and again this is not a new topic- there are many threads on this topic, many actually active at this moment. For a general question like this you should do a search to see if you can get an answer, then when you have more specific question, then post a question- you will get a better response (note no one else has responsed to this,and his other numerous posts, -there is a reason why)."

Sorry, I didn't know we were not permitted to post multiple "same post" on different school forums. I thought I would get an answer from whoever saw it first in whichever forum they visit the most whether it be sgu/auc/saba/ross/smu forum since not everyone goes thru every single school forum. Stephew took out the other posts and left this and let me know about the policy. So rokshana, if she took out the other posts then how would I get a reply from anyone from those posts-This is in reply to your last sentence above.

Rokshana, instead of wasting your time writing all that you could've just answered my question or didn't have to say anything. If you don't want to reply then don't reply let others do it. And yes, for your info Juni has answered my question with one line. He didn't make a big deal about this.

Anyway, thanks pinksophistication for the support. And this is what I got from Juni
http://www.valuemd.com/smu-medical-school-clinicals/84505-electives-5.html

[rokshana]

your a newbie- which is why i didn't make a big point about TOS- figured you would get a pm from one of the mods about it- i only pointed it out when another new person thought it wasn't a big deal.

again, since you are new i didn't make a big note to you about asking general questions about topics that have been (or currently are) being discussed on vmd. Before you start berating people about not being nice- you need to learn something about the culture here on vmd. Many of us here are happy to help, but get a bit tired of people who don't want to do even a little bit of work to get the answer to their question. If you had just done a search for green book you would have found

http://www.valuemd.com/smu-medical-school-clinicals/54629-acgme-sites-green-states.html

http://www.valuemd.com/mua-nevis-medical-school-clinicals/129432-what-green-book.html

http://www.valuemd.com/mua-nevis-medical-school-clinicals/113628-greenbook-rotations.html

http://www.valuemd.com/ross-university-school-medicine/128938-can-someone-explain-what-ecfmg-accreditation-green-book.html

http://www.valuemd.com/state-medical-licensing-information/128718-how-people-spreading-negative-false-information-affects-licensing-directly.html

http://www.valuemd.com/main-foreign-medical-schools-forum/128859-new-york-carib-schools.html

and this was on the 1st page alone. I'm sure one of these has the answer to your question.

[Amyloidosis]

Thanks for the links. I'll be sure to look up stuff from now on before I post. Happy now? :)

[pet127]

At the end of the day no answer to a question we all want to know about. what a waste of space.

[onmyway]

Just thought I'd share something I found out recently...mainly as a good example of how important it is to check state requirements EARLY on in this whole process. For anyone contemplating practicing in Virginia, please note that ALL clinical rotations, both core and elective, must be done in hospitals that have ACGME residencies in that particular specialty. For example, if you do a rads elective, it better be at a hospital with a rads residency program. Ditto with the other specialty areas. Just an example and an FYI.

[NDPatch]

One of the students said he was assigned a clinical site that allowed him to complete all core rotations being that he had a family. I was wondering, is this common? I will be attending Ross Jan '08 and will be joined by a family of four as well.

[*Mags*]

Has anyone at Ross done clinicals in Canada? And, if so, where? Please PM. Many thanks.

[adipose]

One of the students said he was assigned a clinical site that allowed him to complete all core rotations being that he had a family. I was wondering, is this common? I will be attending Ross Jan '08 and will be joined by a family of four as well.


in the same city, possible.. in the same hospital, unlikely considering there are very few hospitals that offer all cores and electives...maybe if it was Wyckoff, but even at Wyckoff they don't offer psych.

[NJ14]

For 3rd and 4th yr students-if anyone has a surgery rotation in NY from jan-may 08 and would like to switch to surgery at Cape Cod (the BEST for surgery) please reply to this message. Its best for students either close to MA or who are thinking about a career in surgery. Send me a private message.

[hopeful786]

Question about GREENBOOK Rotations. What if a rotation that I am doing lets say Pediatrics is not accredited at a particular hospital but the family medicine residency is and the pediatric rotation that I do falls under the umbrella of family medicine. Can that pediatrics rotation be considered Greenbook.

As well lets say the pediatrics rotation is not greenbook, how can that rotation have a negative impact on my career in the future. Please let me know, because I am being sent to a rotation which has only family medicine Accreditation but apparently pediatrics rotations are also done there. Thanks....

I plan to apply for internel med or surgery residency.

[soulny]

Anyone know of any good spots to do an ENT elective, preferably in NY?? As in good, I mean a good teaching experience and not just getting out early. Thanks!

[Luk-E]

I hate New York City. Can I entirely complete my clinical education outside of NYC (cores and electives) and still be able to finish in 2 years? That includes Peds and OB/GYN. Also, can it be in the same city, too? I am wiling to travel, but money is Hella-tight. I know, I know. While I’m at it, why don’t I ask for $1million too. Also, I like cake. :D

[ssg1980]

Can anyone please let me know of the Best Medicine Subinternships in the NY area ? I know it is not required for Ross but I will probably need it for the specialty I am trying for. Please help, any information will be appreciated.

[jeonghur]

wrong thread.

[babychic]

hey guys need help.

[babychic]

I am looking for someone who has a surgery rotation in St Agnes Hospital in Baltimore, MD during 3/09-6/09 and is interested in switching for a spot in 1/09-3/09. If anyone is interested please reply to this message or send me a private email. Thanks.

[murciel]

They changed the date. It's now 03/30/2009-06/19/2009. I am scheduled for that time and would love to switch it with you for Jan. Email me at phmq80[at]gmail[dot]com :)

[canal]

If a hospital only allows one cores for ross student, how do I go about requesting for more cores there? Do I go directly to the hospital or my clinical advisor? And doing so, would that be consider doing a core in a non-affiliated hospital? thanks

[PILOT2BMD]

Chabert Hospital, Houma LA

2 rooms available in 4 bedroom house, non-smoker, no pets. I am a 7th semester male Ross student. 500 + portion of utils. One of best neighborhoods in Houma. PM me or email me ksdrane@yahoo.com for address and pictures. This rotation site is only for LA residents. If you want to come to Chabert, do Atlanta Psych as a special, no Psych on site. Rooms available mid December.