My gripe of the day

[bevo]

It just feels like sometimes some people in administration don't realize some of the consquences of some actions.

Normally the library and classrooms 1 and 4 are open to studying. And organizations who request a room are given either classroom 3a or 3b, usually.

Well, today in classroom 1 an organization came in telling everyone we had to depart by 5 pm because they had reserved the room for a function of theres. They had requested it only the day before or something like that and no one was given notice that it would be occurring.

From what I heard there were only 20-25 people involved in this function and they were displacing around 50 or more individuals who had been studying in there.

Because both classroom 3a and 3b were already reserved the people responsible for giving out rooms for organizations decided to give them classroom 1.

This made an ok situation worse. All the studying areas on campus are normally fairly full.

I don't deny that the organization has every right to use the room, but the school should know that classroom 1 is always crowded with studying students and that study spots across campus are normally very full.

Im just wondering why the university keeps classroom 5 closed all the time when there seems to be a need to have it open for students who wish to study. Especially around mini time when everyone is studying and the amount of students who choose to study on campus increases.

And what will happen next semester if the renovation of classroom 4 does occur?

Classroom 1 and the library will not be able to accomodate everyone, especially with the large september class coming in.

Sorry if this is more of a rant and a bit incoherrent(sp?), just letting out a little bit of frustration at the moment.

Some of the students in there were more vocal about it when it happened and were trying to force a solution, ie moving the organization somewhere else besides classroom 1. I didn't think anything was going to come of it.

One of the arguments I heard was that classroom 1 was the semester 3 room and if the event is not listed on the calender in the room then it shouldn't be allowed?

[Ganja Magic]

Hi bevo,

I was in the room with you. Have you ever heard more unprofessional, ridiculous and insulting rhetoric than what came out of Peuschel's mouth when he came down to "resolve" the situation? People like him represent all that is wrong with this Administration. In fact, in my short experience here thus far, he represents the mentality of this school: unresponsive to student needs, hopelessly out-of-touch with basic student concerns, and insulting and derogatory to our simple requests. He basically threatened a student, called us all immature and leveled baseless accusations at us, and drew conclusions without even taking stock of the situation or asking some questions.

He even had the cojones to tell us that "we don't owe you a place to study"!!!. My God. Sorry we had to call you from your mansion on a Saturday, Mr. Peuschel. We are just PAYING YOUR DAMN SALARY. The least you can do is make sure we all have a place to study.

His behavior today absolutely makes me sick. If Dean Houghton or whoever is in charge of this scam of a school doesn't put him through a professional review for his actions, I don't know how we can possibly trust Ross again. What a crock.

[genguy]

Ganja,

I witnessed today’s incident outside classroom 1 with the students and Pueschel. Let me say I am shocked at the unprofessional attitude and lack of decency out one (Pueschel) of the school administrators. I heard the administrator tell the students they are “morally wrong and unethical” for trying to find a sensible resolution to the problem. The students were trying to accommodate the activity and still have a place to study if possible. Some of these students were being very considerate of the lady organizing the activity while trying to find a find a place to study. Sounds like adults trying to work to a reasonable solution to a simple problem. A simple solution would have been to open classroom 5 for studying so that the activity could use 1.

Also the comment about “we don’t owe you a place to study” is an outrage! I am paying $10,000 and can’t have a place to study. Don’t most universities provide students with a place to study? Devry help! We are not asking for much, just a sensible use of campus resources and some professionalism from the people running the school down here.

[2ndyear]

I can't say I'm too surprised. Mr. Pueschel has been known to have a bit of a temper problem. As bad as what happened in CL1 today, I have seen him alot worst toward the university employees. Mr. Pueshel is of German descent, maybe he has that Aryan superiority complex thing going.

Like others and myself have expressed before, the administration has little, if any, respect for the students. We are 'cash cows', just as long as the checks clear.

At most stateside universities, the library is the main place of learning. At the better, higher priced places, they usually open a small room or the cafeteria for people to study after library hours. The administration here tends to have the same mindset. However, they forget that most stateside libraries have MULTIPLE STORIES, students can drive home to study, and they have reliable eletricity and air surface. Here in wonderful Dominica, the library is a meeting place of one floor, the electricity goes out every other day, and most apartments have spotty a/c units that work only 1/2 the time. Where are we going to go? it's not we have a choice? Somehow, the power that be here are so darn stubborn that they don't see it as long as they're receiving their fat checks.

[coco]

I wonder if Mitch or Wagner are reading these complaints...what would you say to this Mitch/Wagner? Its hard enough to be in medical school, why must students have to plead for a place to study...I understand that like any other professional institution, Ross is a business. But unlike other medical school institutions, Ross med students seem to have to struggle for study space and the understanding of the school's administrator for academic integrity. I am so disappointed to hear this from current students

[pec740]

I too witnessed the "outrage" outside of classroom 1, and was quiet honestly disgusted. I don't have a problem with the KSA wanting to use the room, all I ask for is some common respect. If an event is scheduled to take place for 5 and a half hours, in a room normally alicated as a "study room", all I ask for is 1) some prior notice, and 2) an alternative study situation. The woman in charge of the event started posting notices at 4:00 for the event that was supposed to start at 4:00. How is this any kind of notice? So fine she does have the room reserved, so she is entitled to use it, but where are the 50-60 displaced students supposed to go. Dean Pueschel recommended the library, which I have no problem with, if maybe the university resolved the ongoing problem with squaters, and not being able to find a spot when there are actually only 10 people studying in the room. Is it even possible to consider unlocking the precious classroom 5 to give the disgruntled, and displaced students a place to study. God forbid, they actually provide a service to the customer, which was listed as one of their goals in the student handbook, given out during the first week of school. My other issue is who is in charge of this sinking ship on the weekends. It seems as if no one is every on call, or if they are on call they are mysteriouly unavailable or "off the island" when events like these occur.

Dervy HELP!!!!

[AUCMD2006]

i don't know what i would do without a place to study. cafeteria open 24/7, library from 8am to 11pm, the histo lab from 4pm to 8amnext day, and the basketball court to let off some steam after lab.

you are right it's the school's job to provide facilities for students. but at least we have our share of "prsonalities" here. i've already heard stories about a prof next semester who calls students moron's when they don't know the answer and this guy even said she threw a book at him! good luck to us all...i can't wait to be back in my good ol' USA....you know what makes the USA more 'lawful' or mannered than most other places? it's not releigion or the fear of God, it's not the police, and it's not jail time...it's our lawyers and everyone's fear of being sued! maybe we can export some of our lawyers out here to tame the caribbean and make people respect each other.....

[microphage]

it's not releigion or the fear of God, it's not the police, and it's not jail time...it's our lawyers and everyone's fear of being sued! maybe we can export some of our lawyers out here to tame the caribbean and make people respect each other.....

But isn't it the same lawyers who we fear whenever someone's child complains of a headache after he/she just visited the hospital... Lawsuits galore, I guess you can't win them all.

[Cuando2]

The woman in charge of the event started posting notices at 4:00 for the event that was supposed to start at 4:00. How is this any kind of notice?

the event did not start at 4pm. I'm sure the signs may have been hung at that time (i cannot confirm this as I wasnt studying in classroom 1), but the event was slated to begin at 6:30 or so. Even then, the event was successfully relocated and the students in CR1 were not required to move elsewhere.

[MitchDC]

Hey Guys! Thank you for your input. It would probably be a better idea to inform your class representative directly about this issue versus posting it here, but I'll look into it for you. I definitely understand your "gripes" and a few other prospective issues have arisen here as well that I think need to be looked at.

You are correct, academics are the main purpose of the University. However, extra and co-curricular activities are very important as well. Sometimes the student lead groups don't schedule a room very early, but as you guys mentioned above, they are entitled to meet if the other rooms are already taken.

I would suggest that you e-mail your concerns to Dean Wagner personally at his Ross e-mail account OR if you wish to remain anonymous to him you can e-mail me at my Rossmed e-mail account (for those of you who know me or at least know my e-mail address) and I'll take all your comments to him to see what we can do to prevent this issue in the future. With your comments, it is important that you include possible solutions.

I entirely agree that one of the solutions needs to be the library squatting issue (where students "move-in" to the library and "reserve" their spot with books, family pictures, computers etc). I plan to make that one of my main focuses next semester as part of the SGA. Not just to shut people out, but to come up with other options and move towards resolving the "study space" issues.

I look forward to your official input through the proper channels.

Thanks again!

MitchDC

I wonder if Mitch or Wagner are reading these complaints...what would you say to this Mitch/Wagner? Its hard enough to be in medical school, why must students have to plead for a place to study...I understand that like any other professional institution, Ross is a business. But unlike other medical school institutions, Ross med students seem to have to struggle for study space and the understanding of the school's administrator for academic integrity. I am so disappointed to hear this from current students