First day of clinicals...

[microphage]

So blah blah blah blah blah... you want to hear this amazing story of clinicals...

So here goes:


Today was orientation...






THE END.



Oh yeah, LOTS of AUC students there.

[FOID]

wow amazing! that said it all!

[microphage]

wow amazing! that said it all!

Yup... but orientation was good. I needed the extra day to get everything together.

[FOID]

did you remember to clap at the end of orientation?

[microphage]

did you remember to clap at the end of orientation?

No, we aren't the current 5th semesters who feel like clapping is the end all.

[MDXRS22]

So blah blah blah blah blah... you want to hear this amazing story of clinicals...

So here goes:


Today was orientation...






THE END.



Oh yeah, LOTS of AUC students there.


That was so much work for a poor soul ;)

[microphage]

That was so much work for a poor soul ;)

I'm sure I'll have no time for valuemd once I start tomorrow...

It'll be a interesting change. I'll go through valuemd withdrawl.

[teratos]

So blah blah blah blah blah... you want to hear this amazing story of clinicals...

So here goes:


Today was orientation...






THE END.



Oh yeah, LOTS of AUC students there.

Sounds like you are wowing them... G

[FOID]

I'm sure I'll have no time for valuemd once I start tomorrow...

It'll be a interesting change. I'll go through valuemd withdrawl.

we will all be having micro withdrawls as well. no pun intended :p ...

on a serious note, go and kick butt!!!

[teratos]

I'm sure I'll have no time for valuemd once I start tomorrow...

It'll be a interesting change. I'll go through valuemd withdrawl.

No, you will make time. In fact, you'll probably have a lot more time than you think. G

[Newlywed]

Glad you got an extra day!!!!! Have fun cause it all ends..... Go to dinner somewhere good and enjoy it for all of us!!!! Miss you guys!!!
J-

[microphage]

No, you will make time. In fact, you'll probably have a lot more time than you think. G

I felt bad today leaving before 3pm. <== ten bucks says I'll regret saying this in a week or two after they found me out.

[gasjockey]

First day of clinicals Oldchurch Hospital, Romford, England 1997. At that time, students in England wore long white coats. I dont know what happened to these people, do you? Let me know if you wanna see more vintage AUC pics.

Gasjockey, MD (AUC alum 1999)
Clinical Instructor
Case Western Reserve University, School of Medicine
University Hospitals of Cleveland

http://anesthesiapain.com/images/auc1997.jpg

[teratos]

I felt bad today leaving before 3pm. <== ten bucks says I'll regret saying this in a week or two after they found me out.

You don't think they are happy you are gone? Med students are often a pain in the rump for the residents. Don't let them shoo you away like a fly at a picnic. Get the list of patients your resident is following, and see them yourself. Listen to hearts, lungs, push on abdomens, percuss livers,etc. The more you do this, and the more "normal" stuff you hear, them more likely you will be to find/hear abnormal stuff. Go read about the problems the patients have. I like CMDT (Current Medical Diagnosis and Treatment). Quick and concise. Don't look stuff up in journals (except review articles.) You aren't that sophistocated yet. If you see a patient with a condition and read about it, you are more likely to remember it. DON'T spend too much time reading. You should spend far more time seeing patients. I hate wimpy med students who say "I have to go read". No you don't, you have to go see some patients, then read. Get the most out of your clinicals. G

[FOID]

were people rioting after the hurricane hit?

[teratos]

were people rioting after the hurricane hit?

There weren't big-time riots. There was a lot of looting. I don't recall there being much violence. The Dutch Marines were carrying aluminum baseball bats at one supermarket we drove by. They did a great job, and restored order quickly. Me and 3 other people went to the airport about 4 days after the hurricaine, and found there were no filghts. We were just gonna sleep there, and the Dutch Marines offered us a flight to Curacao on one of the supply planes. They were great. Gave us food, sodas, put us up in a hotel for the night. It was so nice to shower after not doing so in the tropics for a few days. Theonly problem we had was the next day at the airport. Our Passports were never stamped, and they were very skeptical. They called the base commander, and he verified that we flew in with them. G

[swimguy23]

It was so nice to shower after not doing so in the tropics for a few days. G

I thought that was what you were known for teratos?

[microphage]

You don't think they are happy you are gone? Med students are often a pain in the rump for the residents. Don't let them shoo you away like a fly at a picnic. Get the list of patients your resident is following, and see them yourself. Listen to hearts, lungs, push on abdomens, percuss livers,etc. The more you do this, and the more "normal" stuff you hear, them more likely you will be to find/hear abnormal stuff. Go read about the problems the patients have. I like CMDT (Current Medical Diagnosis and Treatment). Quick and concise. Don't look stuff up in journals (except review articles.) You aren't that sophistocated yet. If you see a patient with a condition and read about it, you are more likely to remember it. DON'T spend too much time reading. You should spend far more time seeing patients. I hate wimpy med students who say "I have to go read". No you don't, you have to go see some patients, then read. Get the most out of your clinicals. G

Thats nice to know! Thanks. I'm at a clinic rotation with some hospital this month so its a bit different than entire ward rotation. The doc is fairly nice though, and yeah, I'm one of those who feels like I need to read.. :(

[teratos]

Thats nice to know! Thanks. I'm at a clinic rotation with some hospital this month so its a bit different than entire ward rotation. The doc is fairly nice though, and yeah, I'm one of those who feels like I need to read.. :(
You do need to read, but not to the degree you did before. Previously, your clinical experience would augment your book learning. Now it is the other way around. Your reading will add to your clinical experience. Experience is a much better teacher than memorization. You should go through step 2 and 3 saying "yep, I've seen this patient". What do I have to do, put out an anime video with scantily clad women seeing patients? That is one thing that really gets under my skin about med students. I see them on the computers looking stuff up, but almost never see them talking to the patients. I am fairly approachable, but in my 2 years as a teaching attending, I can count on one hand the number of times a student has asked me about my patients, or asked the rationale behind what I was doing. G

[teratos]

I thought that was what you were known for teratos?

I'm know for my odor, but it is flatulence, not body odor. I bathe with regularity. G

[stateofequilibrium]

Is it maybe most med students are intimidated perhaps or afraid to bother the doctor in the middle of a procedure or afraid to show ignorance?

Shucks though, if someone made medical school lectures in the format of anime videos taught by giddy girls in schoolgirl uniforms with submachine guns and gratuitous panty shots, I'd probably be a neurosurgeon.

You do need to read, but not to the degree you did before. Previously, your clinical experience would augment your book learning. Now it is the other way around. Your reading will add to your clinical experience. Experience is a much better teacher than memorization. You should go through step 2 and 3 saying "yep, I've seen this patient". What do I have to do, put out an anime video with scantily clad women seeing patients? That is one thing that really gets under my skin about med students. I see them on the computers looking stuff up, but almost never see them talking to the patients. I am fairly approachable, but in my 2 years as a teaching attending, I can count on one hand the number of times a student has asked me about my patients, or asked the rationale behind what I was doing. G

[teratos]

Is it maybe most med students are intimidated perhaps or afraid to bother the doctor in the middle of a procedure or afraid to show ignorance?



Dude, I'm an internist. MY idea of doing a procedure is tying my shoes. I am very approachable. My point is that people should be seeing PATIENTS, more than books. G

[stateofequilibrium]

Dude, I'm an internist. MY idea of doing a procedure is tying my shoes. I am very approachable. My point is that people should be seeing PATIENTS, more than books. G

I wasn't arguing with your point.. I was just throwing some fish at you.

Or maybe med students are antisocial beasts who are secretly polishing lightsabers at their computer while pretending to look up cases?

[microphage]

I wasn't arguing with your point.. I was just throwing some fish at you.


G, you should throw some warnings at him

[teratos]

G, you should throw some warnings at him

I scoured the TOS, and throwing fish is ok....

[microphage]

Another thread... gone off topic.

[microphage]

One week gone... 71 more to go!!! woohoo!

[Gator98MD]

Now that was one of the funniest remarks I have read in awhile. Its amazing how in IM residency you do a bunch or procedures (to get certified), and then when you are the attending, for the most part you dont anymore. Epecially since you can bill big time for these things!! What does a CVC run these days, $150 a pop?

Dude, I'm an internist. MY idea of doing a procedure is tying my shoes. I am very approachable. My point is that people should be seeing PATIENTS, more than books. G

[anencephalic]

What does a CVC run these days, $150 a pop?

CVC = Complete Vlood Count?:p

Aloha,

[teratos]

CVC = Complete Vlood Count?:p

Aloha,

No, Central Venous Catheter.

By the time I put in a central line and bill $150, and get $100 of that disallowed by insurance, and assume the extra liability for doing a line that will eventually, if I do enough, result in a pneumothorax....I can see 2 or 3 people and get $60 bucks for each visit....

I can make more money NOT doing procedures, if you look at it on a minute by minute basis. You can never forget the liability, either.

[Gator98MD]

Thats cool. That's what us residents are here for anyway. By the time you get to be an attending, you are the main overseer anyway.



No, Central Venous Catheter.

By the time I put in a central line and bill $150, and get $100 of that disallowed by insurance, and assume the extra liability for doing a line that will eventually, if I do enough, result in a pneumothorax....I can see 2 or 3 people and get $60 bucks for each visit....

I can make more money NOT doing procedures, if you look at it on a minute by minute basis. You can never forget the liability, either.

[DrBTS]

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