Questions About New York Clinicals

[am405]

Can SABA students do all their core clinicals in New York? Are these greenbook? Also, how hard is it for students to actually get placed in clinicals in New York? Is there a waitlist? Where do most students wind up doing their clinicals? Thanks.

[plabon]

yes, i would be very interested in that info too. please some one who has experiece doing clinicals shed some light on that.
thanks

[bigguy]

Hey,
I'm starting in September, and if you review my history of posts, you'll see that I have asked this question repeatedly and never gotten a decisive answer.

When I had my interview, I was asked if it was okay if some of my clinicals were not in New York. I took this to mean that I shouldn't expect to do all of my clinicals in New York, which is a bummer for me, as I own an apartment in Manhattan, and this is an area saturated with teaching hospitals.

Any clinical that you would do in New York would be greenbook. I suspect that some of my core clinicals (especially peds. which seems to be hard to arrange) will be outside New York. I believe Saba students can do most of their cores in Baltimore. And I'm pretty sure most electives could be arranged in New York.

Saba is only recently New York approved, so hopefully they'll be targeting more New York hospitals for clinical affiliations. Unfortunately, Ross and SGU take up a huge amount the clinicals spots available. To whatever extent I can, I plan on pioneering New York clinicals for myself and for the Saba students who follow.

I know it's not the clear cut answer that you were looking for, but when it comes to clinicals, there are no guarantees; you'll get put in whatever program they can put you in (keeping in mind your geographic preference) and if you don't want it, you'll have to wait until they have a different opportunity for you.

Bigguy

[hopeful786]

Hi,

During my interview, I was asked a similar question about clinicals. They said to me how do you feel about clinicals in the US. My answer was that I would prefer to do Clinicals in different locations because that would expose me to different hospital settings and allow me to network which would improve my chances of getting residencies. The interviewer, seemed happy with my answer.

However, I wanted to know is there a disadvantage to doing clinicals in broad range of places other than the inconvenience of moving to a different place every few months?

[BCgirl]

Things were right in the middle of changing when I did my rotations - it was a little complicated. We could only do 12 weeks in New York if we wanted to do a residency there. Now we can do electives there as well, in addition to the 12 weeks, but unless we have an affiliation with that program where the electives are, we are limited to only 12 weeks of electives. Altogether, I did 24 of my 72 weeks of rotations in New York. I did peds in Brooklyn, but we recently go Peds in the Bronx as well. I did Ob/gyn in the Bronx.
For electives, I did 8 weeks of Neurology in Manhattan and 4 weeks of Emergency medicine in the Bronx.
I did rotations in Florida, Maryland and Georgia, in addition to New York. At the time, I hated traveling all over the place - trying to find a place to live, learning new hospital systems, etc. Now, I am glad that I had the range of experience because I know that there is more than one way to do things and I have learned how to learn a new system.
One more note - if you get the chance to do family medicine elective at Floyd Medical Center (Georgia) - it was my absolute favorite rotation - I highly recommend it.

[plabon]

thans BCgirl, so 32 weeks in NY. is that avaragrely what most students get in newyork? NY approval and california approval seemed to be the major points about saba. are there student who got more than 32 weeks of clinicals in new york?

thanks

[wolfvgang22]

Hey BCGirl....do you know offhand if Floyd is ACGME accredited in family medicine? Thanks

[microphage]

Hey BCGirl....do you know offhand if Floyd is ACGME accredited in family medicine? Thanks

yes, it would seem so my friend but its in Rome..... back in the day, Rome wasn't... oh nevermind.

https://services.aamc.org/eras/erasstats/par/display.cfm?NAV_ROW=PAR&SPEC_CD=120

[BCgirl]

I did 24 weeks in NY - not 32. All of my rotations were green book. I can't speak for other students - I don't know how many weeks is typical. The rules changed while I was doing rotations so the best way to get current information is from Gardner. They were extremely helpful and available while I was doing my rotations.
Re Rome, GA. Yes, they are green book, ACGME accredited in family practice. That is their only residency however. They have many students from local medical schools, so we cannot do a "core" rotation in family practice. Technically, we do a subinternship in family medicine, although we do not function as subinterns. Paperwork aside, it is green book and it was a terrific way to finish off 4th year.