SGU vs AUC

[praveen_ranganath]

so i got into both med schools, which one should i go to?? SGU is supposed to have a better school but the life at AUC is supposed to be a lot better. If you guys could give me some advice i would appreciate it.

Thank You

[swimguy23]

so i got into both med schools, which one should i go to?? SGU is supposed to have a better school but the life at AUC is supposed to be a lot better. If you guys could give me some advice i would appreciate it.

Thank You

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[microphage]

I will punch the next person who answers this thread.

[microphage]

I will punch the next person who answers this thread.

I'm not kidding.... :mad:

[microphage]

I'm not kidding.... :mad:




OWWWW!! :fight:

[Skipper]

god on the 8th day created the search function!

use it!

skipper

[praveen_ranganath]

could somebody send me links to old threads on this subject. I couldnt find any.

[stateofequilibrium]

Auc Rules Sgu Drools!

[stephew]

please only post once on a given topic.

[jakesarver]

AUC, any other caribbean school out there, especially SGU, is shady! But thats my personal opinion.

[BACK2REALITY]

so i got into both med schools, which one should i go to?? SGU is supposed to have a better school but the life at AUC is supposed to be a lot better. If you guys could give me some advice i would appreciate it.

Thank You

if by life you mean night life, then yes, perhasp AUC has better life, this is because its a more tourist friendly island and its tourism industry is well established. grenada, is less tourist friendly, although this trend had been changing, according to the wall street journal, grenada was recently becoming a more popular destination for europeans who enjoy the privelage of a stronger pound/euro. these are older tourists. from what i have heard there are many new bars/restaurat type things being built in grenada so things seem to be improving...i'm not sure how the hurricane affected this.
so if you want to go to a school where you will see younger tourists and a party when your schedual permits, having visited AUC, i would go there. but i was there nearly 4 years ago...things may have changed.
i suggest you look at www.lonelyplanet.com (http://www.lonelyplanet.com) for information regarding the island. hope that helps.

[stephew]

AUC, any other caribbean school out there, especially SGU, is shady! But thats my personal opinion.Jake I'm an sgu grad now an attending at a harvard hospital in radiation oncology. If you'd like to discuss sgu or IMG education in general I'd be happy to. PM me.

[stateofequilibrium]

Jake I'm an sgu grad now an attending at a harvard hospital in radiation oncology. If you'd like to discuss sgu or IMG education in general I'd be happy to. PM me.

Don't worry about Jake. He's still upset about the Who thread.

[BACK2REALITY]

AUC, any other caribbean school out there, especially SGU, is shady! But thats my personal opinion.

please leave the island school bashing to experts such as myself.

[swimguy23]

Jake I'm an sgu grad now an attending at a harvard hospital in radiation oncology. If you'd like to discuss sgu or IMG education in general I'd be happy to. PM me.

no offense steph, i usually agree with everything you say but the original poster did ask for people's opinions. Your successes are quite irrelevant in such a case. Not everyone from SGU ends up in a harvard affiliated hospital. Also, if its anything like connecticut.....almost every single hospital in connecticut is yale-affiliated.....therefore i can say ah yes i work in a yale affiliated hospital but it actually means nothing more than i work in connecticut. If someone says I think AUC or SGU is stupid well that is their opinion. Also, taken in the context it was supposed to be a joke by jake.

[stateofequilibrium]

Yeah, Jake has a thing against SGU ever since they started rubbing it in his nose that Who? was beating our Banter thread.

[jakesarver]

Jake I'm an sgu grad now an attending at a harvard hospital in radiation oncology. If you'd like to discuss sgu or IMG education in general I'd be happy to. PM me.

Good for you, I hope that everyone can work as hard as you and obtain such a distinguished position in such a prestigious hospital. Another thing I have nothing against Caribbean schools. They are a great opportunity for people that may have not had the chance to become a doctor. I know that most IMG’s will have to work ten times harder than I will simply because they went to the Caribbean, and I can appreciate that. It really does not make a difference what Caribbean med school you go to, it solely depends on your step 1 and step 2 scores. For example I know that all IMG’s and FMG’s need to score at least a 90 on both step 1 and step 2, to be even considered for a categorical internal med residency at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, a Harvard teaching hospital. For graduates of US school, I know they don’t have the same requirement. What ultimately matters is how comfortable you want to be and what type of people you want to be around when attending a Caribbean med school, and of course they should have licensure in all 50 states. Therefore I believe AUC is better than SGU.

[teratos]

What matters is really the person. SGU has an excellent reputation. Probably better than any other school in the Caribbean, or anywhere outside the US for that matter in terms of school aimed at US citizens. Reputation can count for a lot with certain people. lets not make this a pissing contest among schools, please. G

[BACK2REALITY]

What matters is really the person. SGU has an excellent reputation. Probably better than any other school in the Caribbean, or anywhere outside the US for that matter in terms of school aimed at US citizens. Reputation can count for a lot with certain people. lets not make this a pissing contest among schools, please. G

i agree, lets just accept that all of us island med students are actual med school rejects who have been given an opportunity, since we are all in the same boat here, we should stay united regardless of what dinky little school we go to...we all suffer throught the same process and have to over come similar hurdles.

now i'm not suggesting a group hug, but if one were to occur, i would participate!

[praveen_ranganath]

I heard some people saying that is harder to get clinicals (3rd and 4th year) to the USA from AUC compared to SGU. Any truth to that??

[microphage]

lets not make this a pissing contest among schools, please. G

Yeah but we AUC people then get to talk about bathrooms and such if this thread continues.

[stateofequilibrium]

I'm sure if we do get into a pissing contest, we'd DEFINITELY beat SGU hands down, or should I say off?

[swimguy23]

I heard some people saying that is harder to get clinicals (3rd and 4th year) to the USA from AUC compared to SGU. Any truth to that??

no, run a search

[stephew]

Good for you, I hope that everyone can work as hard as you and obtain such a distinguished position in such a prestigious hospital. Another thing I have nothing against Caribbean schools. They are a great opportunity for people that may have not had the chance to become a doctor. I know that most IMG’s will have to work ten times harder than I will simply because they went to the Caribbean, and I can appreciate that. It really does not make a difference what Caribbean med school you go to, it solely depends on your step 1 and step 2 scores. For example I know that all IMG’s and FMG’s need to score at least a 90 on both step 1 and step 2, to be even considered for a categorical internal med residency at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, a Harvard teaching hospital. For graduates of US school, I know they don’t have the same requirement. What ultimately matters is how comfortable you want to be and what type of people you want to be around when attending a Caribbean med school, and of course they should have licensure in all 50 states. Therefore I believe AUC is better than SGU. fair enough. But I disagree with the notion that it doesnt matter what offshore school you go to; it matters which US school you go to and while as a generalization coming from overseas puts you behind the 8-ball, it may indeed matter which school. Also, its not just the usmle's although these obviously are critical. BTW Deaconess just took an offshore student for medicine (and no i dont know their stats); but jake, your general comments Im in full agreement with.

[stephew]

What matters is really the person. SGU has an excellent reputation. Probably better than any other school in the Caribbean, or anywhere outside the US for that matter in terms of school aimed at US citizens. Reputation can count for a lot with certain people. lets not make this a pissing contest among schools, please. Gi personally dont see this as a one is better than another, at least between auc and sgu. there are some schools i wouldnt go near, but i wouldnt begrudge a good student who made it form one of these places. As for auc and sgu and a few others, I think they are all viable and really its a matter of which is best for the conditions of the particular student. Acutally I dont think this thread has been a pissing contest between schools; jokes aside, i think folks have been very respectful.

[esth0001]

Jake I'm an sgu grad now an attending at a harvard hospital in radiation oncology. If you'd like to discuss sgu or IMG education in general I'd be happy to. PM me.


How much your father donated to harvard hospital? :) !!! just kidding:)

[jakesarver]

fair enough. But I disagree with the notion that it doesnt matter what offshore school you go to; it matters which US school you go to and while as a generalization coming from overseas puts you behind the 8-ball, it may indeed matter which school. Also, its not just the usmle's although these obviously are critical. BTW Deaconess just took an offshore student for medicine (and no i dont know their stats); but jake, your general comments Im in full agreement with.

I saw that, it was very impressive. But fair enough, both schools are a good choice if one were to go to the Caribbean for med school. BTW I bet you must be hot if you’re in rad onc. All girls from rad onc are beautiful! LOL!

[anencephalic]

I saw that, it was very impressive. But fair enough, both schools are a good choice if one were to go to the Caribbean for med school. BTW I bet you must be hot if you’re in rad onc. All girls from rad onc are beautiful! LOL!

Ha! Their personality isn't all that glows...:p


Aloha,

[teratos]

i personally dont see this as a one is better than another, at least between auc and sgu. there are some schools i wouldnt go near, but i wouldnt begrudge a good student who made it form one of these places. As for auc and sgu and a few others, I think they are all viable and really its a matter of which is best for the conditions of the particular student. Acutally I dont think this thread has been a pissing contest between schools; jokes aside, i think folks have been very respectful.

right. I don't think one IS better. If you look around, SGU is just better known for some reason, and has a good reputation. Didn't mean for it to come out any other way. I think AUC is a great choice. How could I not? ;)

[stateofequilibrium]

Ha! Their personality isn't all that glows...:p


Aloha,

That sure does put new meaning to headlights.

[Scott1981]

we are not all us med school rejects. many have gotten into us DO programs and chose to come down here. as far as the allo is going, not all us allo students had better stats then us. since space is so limited at home, its slowly becoming a game of who you know and what state your from and not what you scored. ive seen many here with gpa 3.3-3.6 with mcats in the 30s down here.

[anencephalic]

we are not all us med school rejects. many have gotten into us DO programs and chose to come down here. as far as the allo is going, not all us allo students had better stats then us. since space is so limited at home, its slowly becoming a game of who you know and what state your from and not what you scored. ive seen many here with gpa 3.3-3.6 with mcats in the 30s down here.

Yep. I was waitlisted and at my ripe old age, decided not to wait another year. I am glad I didn't. Lots of new friends, new faces, and all in all, a great experience.

Aloha,

[stateofequilibrium]

Yep. I was waitlisted and at my ripe old age, decided not to wait another year. I am glad I didn't. Lots of new friends, new faces, and all in all, a great experience.

Aloha,

Ripe indeed. :-)

[microphage]

Ripe indeed. :-)


Shut up Chewie.

[stateofequilibrium]

Shut up Chewie.

Shut up nerf-herder.

[microphage]

Shut up nerf-herder.


the least you can do is insult me using Star Trek...

[anencephalic]

the least you can do is insult me using Star Trek...

You....uh....Tribble lover! :shock:

Aloha,

[microphage]

You....uh....Tribble lover! :shock:

Aloha,

You Jedi reject!

[stateofequilibrium]

You Jedi reject!

You love child of Captain Kirk and a Green Orion woman!

[teratos]

the least you can do is insult me using Star Trek...

OK....YOu watch Star Trek.

I find that insulting.

[stephew]

we are not all us med school rejects. many have gotten into us DO programs and chose to come down here. as far as the allo is going, not all us allo students had better stats then us. since space is so limited at home, its slowly becoming a game of who you know and what state your from and not what you scored. ive seen many here with gpa 3.3-3.6 with mcats in the 30s down here.oh c'mon. dont be so literal. Typically us med school reject is used synonomously with allopathic. We all know what they mean. DO is the same as IMG for the most part: an alternative (and for those warming up, spare me the few exceptions to the rule).

Also by and large, its not really a game of "who you know". Nothing is more weenie that offshore students making excuses. Face it; the vast majority of us didnt get in for perfectly viable reasons. if youre that close but fail to, try again and you'll get in in the us unless there is some other deficit or some problem with your interview. (and a 3.3 is hardly a guareneteed admit to a us med school)

[swimguy23]

oh c'mon. dont be so literal. Typically us med school reject is used synonomously with allopathic. We all know what they mean. DO is the same as IMG for the most part: an alternative (and for those warming up, spare me the few exceptions to the rule).

Also by and large, its not really a game of "who you know". Nothing is more weenie that offshore students making excuses. Face it; the vast majority of us didnt get in for perfectly viable reasons. if youre that close but fail to, try again and you'll get in in the us unless there is some other deficit or some problem with your interview. (and a 3.3 is hardly a guareneteed admit to a us med school)

haha thats great.....i actually chose to come to the caribbean for the nice weather. I turned down harvard (no, not its "affiliation".....smu), yale (i dont like new haven) and UConn (too many farms). Thats my excuse and im stickin to it

[teratos]

haha thats great.....i actually chose to come to the caribbean for the nice weather. I turned down harvard (no, not its "affiliation".....smu), yale (i dont like new haven) and UConn (too many farms). Thats my excuse and im stickin to it

I partied in college and drank too much. My GPA sucked. I got serious too late. I know why I didn't get in. G

[microphage]

I partied in college and drank too much. My GPA sucked. I got serious too late. I know why I didn't get in. G

I'm still not serious.

[stateofequilibrium]

I'm still not serious.

"I always thought about going to college"
"Hah! Barber or Clown?"
"Why you little..!"

[Skipper]

I came to the caribbean so I can be around some great strip clubs---who wouldnt want to be near the PR and golden eyes--

medical school wouldnt be the same without PR and the casinos

does harvard have a casino and a strip club within 5 mins?

skipper

[Scott1981]

oh c'mon. dont be so literal. Typically us med school reject is used synonomously with allopathic. We all know what they mean. DO is the same as IMG for the most part: an alternative (and for those warming up, spare me the few exceptions to the rule).

Also by and large, its not really a game of "who you know". Nothing is more weenie that offshore students making excuses. Face it; the vast majority of us didnt get in for perfectly viable reasons. if youre that close but fail to, try again and you'll get in in the us unless there is some other deficit or some problem with your interview. (and a 3.3 is hardly a guareneteed admit to a us med school)

im not saying that stats dont mean anything anymore, but the exceptions and technicalities are playing more of a role with the limited space. when you lodge the "who you know" people and the procedural issues like particular states you reside in, they are starting to play a bigger role.

take florida for example, they have a dismal open-seat:state-population ratio. there was an article that i read that listed them at #46 in the country. easily, a student from florida could get rejected with stats like 3.6 and 31 mcat. 4 med schools for the 4th largest state. statistics would even imply this, unless the state of florida produces below average college grads (whole new story...:lol:) and we know that most out of state schools give preference to their own state students.

now for the "who you know" people. i have experience with this. i had 26 mcat and 3.6 gpa. we all now my history from other threads about the number of schools i applied to with not even an interview. well, unfortunately too late for me, i was informed that i can get guarenteed admission to a particular florida school if i started from scratch. this family friend was on the admissions board and now consults for them. its unfortunate that my family and i didnt know him 2 years ago. did my stats improve, no. once again, there is a component that is who you know. that spot could go to someone with a 31 mcat.

[YODA]

I came to the caribbean so I can be around some great strip clubs---who wouldnt want to be near the PR and golden eyes--

medical school wouldnt be the same without PR and the casinos

does harvard have a casino and a strip club within 5 mins?

skipper
LSU and Tulane med schools do, the joys of living in New Orleans.

And the food is much better as well.

Later
YODA

[Skipper]

im not saying that stats dont mean anything anymore, but the exceptions and technicalities are playing more of a role with the limited space. when you lodge the "who you know" people and the procedural issues like particular states you reside in, they are starting to play a bigger role.

take florida for example, they have a dismal open-seat:state-population ratio. there was an article that i read that listed them at #46 in the country. easily, a student from florida could get rejected with stats like 3.6 and 31 mcat. 4 med schools for the 4th largest state. statistics would even imply this, unless the state of florida produces below average college grads (whole new story...:lol:) and we know that most out of state schools give preference to their own state students.

now for the "who you know" people. i have experience with this. i had 26 mcat and 3.6 gpa. we all now my history from other threads about the number of schools i applied to with not even an interview. well, unfortunately too late for me, i was informed that i can get guarenteed admission to a particular florida school if i started from scratch. this family friend was on the admissions board and now consults for them. its unfortunate that my family and i didnt know him 2 years ago. did my stats improve, no. once again, there is a component that is who you know. that spot could go to someone with a 31 mcat.
yep scott is right on this--

i am from florida i had a 25, 3.67 ( i am not saying that is amazing) but i know two girls who got into a certain state med school because their parents knew people on the board--
their MCAT score was a 26 and similar GPA--we all had similar backgrounds--i didnt get an interview they got admission

knowing people helps!

skipper

[stateofequilibrium]

yep scott is right on this--

i am from florida i had a 25, 3.67 ( i am not saying that is amazing) but i know two girls who got into a certain state med school because their parents knew people on the board--
their MCAT score was a 26 and similar GPA--we all had similar backgrounds--i didnt get an interview they got admission

knowing people helps!

skipper

Maybe they were better looking than you Skip?

[Scott1981]

LSU and Tulane med schools do, the joys of living in New Orleans.

And the food is much better as well.

Later
YODA

the real question is, who is up for a las vegas residency?
they dont have a allo school, but they just opened a DO school. now that has gotta be an experience!!!!!! :lol:

[stephew]

now for the "who you know" people. i have experience with this. i had 26 mcat and 3.6 gpa. we all now my history from other threads about the number of schools i applied to with not even an interview. well, unfortunately too late for me, i was informed that i can get guarenteed admission to a particular florida school if i started from scratch. this family friend was on the admissions board and now consults for them. its unfortunate that my family and i didnt know him 2 years ago. did my stats improve, no. once again, there is a component that is who you know. that spot could go to someone with a 31 mcat.but you still are off shore. it still never happened. I can tell you about a few people who had dad's on admissions committees in the us (all schools for those playing at home) and still had to go to sgu. two did transfer after the baords. THey likely would njot have if dad hadnt been on the board. BUT they did have to prove themselves. No excuses; most people in med school in the us (ALLO!) have earned it. And scott if if that offer paned out, it wouldnt have under jst any circumstances. a 3.6 is pretty good. you (and the rest of us) are off shore because we were weak comparitively. Bottom line.

[microphage]

but you still are off shore. it still never happened. I can tell you about a few people who had dad's on admissions committees in the us (all schools for those playing at home) and still had to go to sgu. two did transfer after the baords. THey likely would njot have if dad hadnt been on the board. BUT they did have to prove themselves. No excuses; most people in med school in the us (ALLO!) have earned it. And scott if if that offer paned out, it wouldnt have under jst any circumstances. a 3.6 is pretty good. you (and the rest of us) are off shore because we were weak comparitively. Bottom line.



guys, take this argument to the relaxing lounge where it belongs! ;)

[stateofequilibrium]

We could take the whole AUC forum to the relaxing lounge and no one would be able to tell the difference.

[Skipper]

Maybe they were better looking than you Skip?
lol--i guess that explains why i am here

skipper

[microphage]

We could take the whole AUC forum to the relaxing lounge and no one would be able to tell the difference.


actually, its the other way around. You could take the relaxing lounge to the AUC forum and nobody would think twice of it.

[microphage]

the real question is, who is up for a las vegas residency?
they dont have a allo school, but they just opened a DO school. now that has gotta be an experience!!!!!! :lol:


I'm actually looking for a 4th year elective to do there... Anybody know of one?