USMLE and AUC

[esth0001]

Hello,

I have a question about USMLE and AUC. How AUC prepares students for USMLE? All course examinations are in USMLE format? Is this true? Is that helps?

I am really concerend about doing very well on the USMLE, and want to go to a Med school that prepares me really well for it. I do not want to learn anatomy and BIoc and ... I want to learn how can I do well on the USMLE? I want to learn how should I approach the test. becauase I may get all A'a in med school courses and not do very well on the USMLE. Getting an A in anatomy is differnt than getting 250 on the USMLE:)

[anencephalic]

Hello,

I have a question about USMLE and AUC. How AUC prepares students for USMLE? All course examinations are in USMLE format? Is this true? Is that helps?

I am really concerend about doing very well on the USMLE, and want to go to a Med school that prepares me really well for it. I do not want to learn anatomy and BIoc and ... I want to learn how can I do well on the USMLE? I want to learn how should I approach the test. becauase I may get all A'a in med school courses and not do very well on the USMLE. Getting an A in anatomy is differnt than getting 250 on the USMLE:)

Well, if you're looking to score 250, perhaps you should focus on learning the material. Alot of the USMLE is extrapolation and reasoning that requires you to have a solid grasp on multiple subjects, integrate, then apply (at least mine was...).
AUC will give you the tools...the rest is up to you.

Some classes are USMLE format, others not. NBME subject shelf exams starting in 2nd sem.

Kaplan course in 5th.

I agree...getting honors on everyhting doesn't mean squat if you can't perform on the USMLE.

Aloha,

[stateofequilibrium]

Did you just say you did not want to learn anatomy and biochem?

[ChanceCount]

makes for a long first semester.

[esth0001]

I learned and got an A in all of my pre-med courses in a very good and big public university (University of Minnesota) but I did not do very well on the MCAT. I do not want to get Honors in all of my med school courses and get 185 on the USMLE. I rather pass all of my courses and get 250 on the USMLE:)

[cuevasso]

you definitely bring up a valid point...

if anything, i know that you may not care to learn the material but just get the tools to do well on the exam, but my question is:

how will that serve your patients later on when u don't really understand the material but kicked *** on the USMLE?

just a note of caution: some may perceive your entries as pompous and arrogant by your entrie; though scores are important, it's not all about the scores.

[swimguy23]

I do not want to learn anatomy and BIoc and ... I want to learn how can I do well on the USMLE? I want to learn how should I approach the test. becauase I may get all A'a in med school courses and not do very well on the USMLE. Getting an A in anatomy is differnt than getting 250 on the USMLE:)
AUC prepares you by giving you the basics. USMLE requires you to integrate all this knowledge.....that is up to you. Pharm was the most heavily tested subject on my step. I would be givin a patient with some pathology blah blah with a cough, etc and then they would ask me what is the mechanism of action of the doc.....you needed to know the pathology, micro, and pharm.....also the histo if there was an image and maybe even the biochem because it would ask about IP3 signaling, etc. There is no way you can integrate without the basics.

I learned and got an A in all of my pre-med courses in a very good and big public university (University of Minnesota) but I did not do very well on the MCAT. I do not want to get Honors in all of my med school courses and get 185 on the USMLE. I rather pass all of my courses and get 250 on the USMLE:)
As for not doing well on the mcat, remember the USMLE is a standardized exam with a lot of thinking involved.....AUC will give you the basics, its up to you to integrate. BTW not to be rude, no one cares where you went to school, what your mcat was, the research you did, how many contacts you have in the states or how smart you are.....we have all seen dumb and smart people fall in med school......its drive, persistence and integration that will get you where you want to go......follow those last three and you'll be successful

[esth0001]

You got my point, I want to learn the material but I am more worried to do well on the exam, I mean I am shooting for 240 or above. I want to go to neurosurgery and I need at least 230, even If I go to a US med school. If I get below 230, my application would be in a trash, no matter if I am a us or carb graduate:) For neurosurgey if you have a very high USMLE step I, (240 or above), you have a good chance of getting even if you are IMG.

[microphage]

You got my point, I want to learn the material but I am more worried to do well on the exam, I mean I am shooting for 240 or above. I want to go to neurosurgery and I need at least 230, even If I go to a US med school. If I get below 230, my application would be in a trash, no matter if I am a us or carb graduate:) For neurosurgey if you have a very high USMLE step I, (240 or above), you have a good chance of getting even if you are IMG.


It all depends on you. You can be lazy and graduate from Harvard and not get your 240.

[slevit1]

You got my point, I want to learn the material but I am more worried to do well on the exam, I mean I am shooting for 240 or above. I want to go to neurosurgery and I need at least 230, even If I go to a US med school. If I get below 230, my application would be in a trash, no matter if I am a us or carb graduate:) For neurosurgey if you have a very high USMLE step I, (240 or above), you have a good chance of getting even if you are IMG.


You seem to know so much, so why even bother asking questions? If you're as smart as you apparently think you are, you shouldn't have any trouble on the USMLE. However, MCATs are historically a good indicator of USMLE performance, grades are not. Any med school's gonna teach you about the same information. You probably just need to learn how to study to understand, not to memorize. Memorizing will get you an A in a class, but it's not enough when it comes to the MCAT, or probably the USMLE.

Why not study a little more, take the MCAT's again, and go to a US med school if you want a competitive residency?

[Skipper]

learn your biochem--every class after biochem has some sort of biochem

anatomy is worthless---just a huge class with no pt--
you memorize hundred of structures and then forget it all--

skipper

[esth0001]

You seem to know so much, so why even bother asking questions? If you're as smart as you apparently think you are, you shouldn't have any trouble on the USMLE. However, MCATs are historically a good indicator of USMLE performance, grades are not. Any med school's gonna teach you about the same information. You probably just need to learn how to study to understand, not to memorize. Memorizing will get you an A in a class, but it's not enough when it comes to the MCAT, or probably the USMLE.

Why not study a little more, take the MCAT's again, and go to a US med school if you want a competitive residency?

Yes, I know so much about medical schools and different residencies. I graduated with Honors (3.80 Magna cum laude, Biochemistry) from University of Minnesota last year. Unfortunately English is not my first language but I have that beutiful blue passport :) I hate that F/K verbal setion of the MCAT.
I cannot get more than 6 on that stupid section. I got two 11's on the science parts. yes, if english was my native language, then probably Harvard was my place not carb med schools!! but I would be happy with M.D. from SGU or AUC and hopefully neurosurgery residency:)

[stateofequilibrium]

definitely not lacking in the self confidence department I see.

[microphage]

definitely not lacking in the self confidence department I see.

why waste your effort guys. Just let the person be. Afterall, we let you be the way you are SOE.


:backfire:

[stateofequilibrium]

why waste your effort guys. Just let the person be. Afterall, we let you be the way you are SOE.


:backfire:

That's because I agreed to take my medicine. Did you remember to take your birthcontrol pills?!!

[cuevasso]

well, at least from some of the neurosurgeons that i've met...

she hasn't even gone to med school yet and she already has the makings of one...

pompous and arrogant

must have been fate...or destiny...like Aniken to Darth Vader; it's inevitable.

[beach bum]

(haven't posted in a while, but this one made me come out of semi-retirement..)



I know several people (3) who scored that low on the verbal part and schools took "english as 2nd language" into account and overlooked it if the applicant’s other qualities made up for it.



So.. Don't stress too much over your verbal score- work on your shtty personality and try another application.

[anubis]

Wait until those six weeks after you have taken the Step 1. That 185 will start to look pretty good. After your scores, the residency directors will be most interested if they can put up with you for the next several years. A very underestimated factor. (Ask how many interviewees were asked medical questions. More common: How many times did you take the Step 1? What are you outside interests?)

[teratos]

definitely not lacking in the self confidence department I see.

Perfect for a brain surgeon. The USMLE, if they still use the same format, will often give you a scenario, and you have to integrate all of your knowledge and apply it. Medicine is, after all, an applied science. This isn't always easy. If you are a good student, then it shouldn't matter where you go to school. If you are a bad at applying what you have learned, then it won't matter where you go to school. G

[stateofequilibrium]

Perfect for a brain surgeon. The USMLE, if they still use the same format, will often give you a scenario, and you have to integrate all of your knowledge and apply it. Medicine is, after all, an applied science. This isn't always easy. If you are a good student, then it shouldn't matter where you go to school. If you are a bad at applying what you have learned, then it won't matter where you go to school. G

You wanna know what's funny? I've known a couple of neurosurgeons and they said the last thing they wanted was neurosurgery, "I may have been ambitious, but not THAT ambitious."