any idea about UEIMS?

[jenson300]

I heard that Universal Empire Institute of Medical Sciences in India comes under IUHS. If I do my MBBS in their institute, will I have licensure problems in the US?

[travis838]

I know for a fact that a handful of states have blocked anyone from getting a liscence if they even did a protion of thier medical school curriculum on-line.

I believe these states are California and Indiana, and possibly Texas.

If you are interested in the IUHS, I would suggest to do all your time on the island of St. Kitts.

Also, if you plan on attending, check the websites of the states you are interested in before hand...most of them post thier liscensure requirements on line...they are in a legal format.

DO NOT, under any circumstances, contact the state liscensing boards individually, they are extremely busy people, and I know for a fact that IUHS does a pretty good and ongoing job of keeping in touch with most states in an ongoing effort to improve their students chances of getting liscensure.

[Good Doctor]

Take it from someone who knows an insider - the IUHS is ripping off the people in Cochin and Dubai! They take months to give the students exam marks back and the accountant treats everyone like garbage. The admin staff are very nice, but they are figuring out the unethical behaviour of this school.

Stay far away - if you must go to an international school, pick St. George's.

Feel free to ask any questions you have.

Thanks,

Soon to be "Good Doctor"

[Ming]

I heard that Universal Empire Institute of Medical Sciences in India comes under IUHS. If I do my MBBS in their institute, will I have licensure problems in the US?

UEIMS has a British style of medical education without the recognition given to British medical schools. That means they follow the streaming process into medicine and for medical school, the time appears to be a bit shorter.

You would discover that upon trying to apply for US licensure, you would be required to do basic sciences. You see, UEIMS allows entry into medical school directly out of high school. If that applies to you, you would be required to do university basic sciences even though you have been conferred an MD degree. Yes, it is a bit backwards, but that is what most states would request you to do. It is a state requirement that you have university basic sciences prior to entering medical school. UEIMS is probably only good for anyone wishing to remain in India to practice.

[Ming]

I know for a fact that a handful of states have blocked anyone from getting a liscence if they even did a protion of thier medical school curriculum on-line.

I believe these states are California and Indiana, and possibly Texas.

If you are interested in the IUHS, I would suggest to do all your time on the island of St. Kitts.

Also, if you plan on attending, check the websites of the states you are interested in before hand...most of them post thier liscensure requirements on line...they are in a legal format.

DO NOT, under any circumstances, contact the state liscensing boards individually, they are extremely busy people, and I know for a fact that IUHS does a pretty good and ongoing job of keeping in touch with most states in an ongoing effort to improve their students chances of getting liscensure.

You are correct about the distance learning state restrictions. However, please know that not less than 26 states currently have distance learning restrictions. I have contacted each of the states, have extensive notes on the conversations regarding this issue and I would challange you to name the states that you think accept distance learning pre-clinical rotations from off-shore schools. You are again correct, in that California, Indiania and Texas are definitely on that list along with another 23.

I am sorry to disagree with your hesitation regarding contacting the state licencing boards. The purpose of many of those employed at the state licencing boards is to answer questions and give information relating to the laws of their state. I would urge ALL students considering IUHS or any of the other off-shore medical schools, to contact the states in which they have an interest in practicing.

I am sorry to disagree with your position that IUHS is in constant contact with the licencing boards. From my information, only one person at IUHS now has the responsibility of doing so. He is a student as well as one of the lecturers. As he belongs to the distance learning program, it is also in his best interest to keep abreast of state licencing restrictions regarding same.

[babytuck]

Does anyone have any idea how to pass the exit 1 exam of IUHS? Please help me out. I need all the help I can get... I really am desperate as i believe these guys are purposely marking us down & not letting us get through exit 1. I'm feeling really hopeless with the way their idea of scoring 70%, which sometimes varies from a 50% to 70%. All those who are studying in UEIMS will know what I mean.. Please respond as quick as possible

[Ming]

I know for a fact that a handful of states have blocked anyone from getting a liscence if they even did a protion of thier medical school curriculum on-line.

I believe these states are California and Indiana, and possibly Texas.

If you are interested in the IUHS, I would suggest to do all your time on the island of St. Kitts.

Also, if you plan on attending, check the websites of the states you are interested in before hand...most of them post thier liscensure requirements on line...they are in a legal format.

DO NOT, under any circumstances, contact the state liscensing boards individually, they are extremely busy people, and I know for a fact that IUHS does a pretty good and ongoing job of keeping in touch with most states in an ongoing effort to improve their students chances of getting liscensure.

Mr. Travis: you think California, Indiana and possibly Texas? I am guessing the reason you make this statement is because you are following your own advice about not contacting the people who actually know. This is the job these people are paid to do. Answering all the questions anyone may have about licensing. Well, fortunately, I didn't follow anyone's advice such as yours and I contacted every state. Try this number on for size: 26 Yes, that is the number of states who told me directly they would not licence on-line preclinical students.
You are very wrong about IUHS keeping in touch with most states. If that were the case, they would be telling prospective students the truth about licencing. Do you hear any factual information from any of their administrators? If IUHS is doing such a good job at keeping up with the information, how is it you don't know about the decision of these 26 states and I do?

[Genossa maximillian]

NeilC also knows, he posted them in the state licensing forum a few months ago. Same thing Sam Kurenai and I did in 2002, 4 years ago during the old Network 54 days, when we used to post with different names.

Ming, you are aware you replied to a post dating back from July 2005 correct?


Mr. Travis: you think California, Indiana and possibly Texas? I am guessing the reason you make this statement is because you are following your own advice about not contacting the people who actually know. This is the job these people are paid to do. Answering all the questions anyone may have about licensing. Well, fortunately, I didn't follow anyone's advice such as yours and I contacted every state. Try this number on for size: 26 Yes, that is the number of states who told me directly they would not licence on-line preclinical students.
You are very wrong about IUHS keeping in touch with most states. If that were the case, they would be telling prospective students the truth about licencing. Do you hear any factual information from any of their administrators? If IUHS is doing such a good job at keeping up with the information, how is it you don't know about the decision of these 26 states and I do?

[Ming]

NeilC also knows, he posted them in the state licensing forum a few months ago. Same thing Sam Kurenai and I did in 2002, 4 years ago during the old Network 54 days, when we used to post with different names.

Ming, you are aware you replied to a post dating back from July 2005 correct?


Yes, thanks for the reminder but as you can see, new people don't appear to read all the old posts. One of the big differences now is the individual states are much more aware of the schools that are not turning out good students and with a curriculum that can't teach BSc students.

They don't have the academic staff with the ability, nor do they have the resources for BSc students. It's too bad really as it confirms that by the time students discover all the things wrong with IUHS, that is when they start looking for support from sites such as this one. Too late.

[subs]

Hello guys,

Iam a student of ueims and till now we didnt face any problem either from the faculty or from managment and iam about to finish my pre clinical here and till now so far so good and i dont know why people are writing bad about this school and in my batch there are so many students studying in cochin campus and even i am not telling that this school is number one in india but if you check all the places there will be problems in some way or other way.

If you check with other private medical school comparing to them ueims fee structure is very low and we the people we depend on this type of school

My advice to all

Instead of discouraging try to encourage this type of school atleast this school is doing something good for the middle class people who want to become a doctor and before blaming this school make a good survey and till now Medical council of India has not objected this school this school is running for more than 6yrs as per my knowledge. People sitting in the MCI or not idiots

Cheer up

[ayanni]

I am a UEIMS dubai student ive just sat for Exit 1 exam and im waiting for my results that are supposed to be out in about a weeks time i think...im very interested in finding out about students of IUHS that have started their clinical rotations in the states? i really would love it some of y'all could let me know about your experiences in finding rotations at hospitals and how long and difficult a process that was. My main problem is that im not really getting and solid help..and IUHS is telling me that i cant really start find out about rotation how long the placement will take untill i sit down for my USMLE step 1. so any info anyone has out there would be vey helpful...thanks!
ayanni

[azskeptic]

How do you plan to do clinicals in the US when you are attending a school in Dubai?

I am a UEIMS dubai student ive just sat for Exit 1 exam and im waiting for my results that are supposed to be out in about a weeks time i think...im very interested in finding out about students of IUHS that have started their clinical rotations in the states? i really would love it some of y'all could let me know about your experiences in finding rotations at hospitals and how long and difficult a process that was. My main problem is that im not really getting and solid help..and IUHS is telling me that i cant really start find out about rotation how long the placement will take untill i sit down for my USMLE step 1. so any info anyone has out there would be vey helpful...thanks!
ayanni

[Genossa maximillian]

How do you plan to do clinicals in the US when you are attending a school in Dubai?

Same way students from all the Caribbean end up doing clinicals in the US while technically attending schools in the Caribbean...taking and passing Step 1, etc.

[azskeptic]

Same way students from all the Caribbean end up doing clinicals in the US while technically attending schools in the Caribbean...taking and passing Step 1, etc. Does one meet the rule for licensure in Dubai? anyone ever contacted them to inquire? DOHMS - Medical Permit System (http://eapp.dohms.gov.ae/mpt/main/contact.htm)

[Genossa maximillian]

I am a UEIMS dubai student ive just sat for Exit 1 exam and im waiting for my results that are supposed to be out in about a weeks time i think...im very interested in finding out about students of IUHS that have started their clinical rotations in the states? i really would love it some of y'all could let me know about your experiences in finding rotations at hospitals and how long and difficult a process that was. My main problem is that im not really getting and solid help..and IUHS is telling me that i cant really start find out about rotation how long the placement will take untill i sit down for my USMLE step 1. so any info anyone has out there would be vey helpful...thanks!
ayanni

IUHS requires that you pass USMLE Step 1 before they can arrange clinicals for you. I do know they used to contract a company named GMC or something like that to set up clinicals. How easy or hard it is will depend on how much IUHS is willing to help you setting them up. On your own, is difficult, not impossible, but it can be frustrating. I really , really do not know why Azkeptic is asking if it depends if you are elegible for licensure in Dubai or not because it is quite obvious you are talking about clinical rotations, not residency or licensure. All Caribbean schools do it this way, and some schools with satellite campuses like, controversy apart, SCIMD. I do know of many students from the Luton Campus doing clinical rotations in the USA.

I asssume you are doing only the basic sciences portion in Dubai, correct? Or are you doing the whole 4 or 5 years? Clarify please.

Good luck.... GenMax

[azskeptic]

It would appear that that school is similiar indeed to SCIMD. Squatting in Dubai with no local recognition ie not who recognized there.

IUHS requires that you pass USMLE Step 1 before they can arrange clinicals for you. I do know they used to contract a company named GMC or something like that to set up clinicals. How easy or hard it is will depend on how much IUHS is willing to help you setting them up. On your own, is difficult, not impossible, but it can be frustrating. I really , really do not know why Azkeptic is asking if it depends if you are elegible for licensure in Dubai or not because it is quite obvious you are talking about clinical rotations, not residency or licensure. All Caribbean schools do it this way, and some schools with satellite campuses like, controversy apart, SCIMD. I do know of many students from the Luton Campus doing clinical rotations in the USA.

I asssume you are doing only the basic sciences portion in Dubai, correct? Or are you doing the whole 4 or 5 years? Clarify please.

Good luck.... GenMax

[sheikh1]

It is interesting to know where they do clinicals!!

[ayanni]

you guys are right about having to pass Step 1 before IUHS will help you with finding a clinical posting...as far as i know so far it seems that they are working with a placement agency in the states that place foreign medical students from many institutions not just IUHS. The other advantage that UEIMS has over the IUHS the especially people that are doing the purely online thing since we are actually sitting for class in a class room with labs and professors for our basic sciences. The other place where you can do you clinical rotaions is in india and pakistan where UEIMS it self has clinical tie ups with the hospitals there. Thats the route that many of the students in my batch are taking and currently. The reason that UEIMS and IUHS are getting away being in Dubai is by being in the "free-zone" so they dont have to be recognized by the Dubai government so that they can opperate. But you are able to practice in Dubai after you have completed your clinicals and have your degree the only condition is ofcourse you must take the licensing exam for dubai like you would have to do in any country. I do have a question for people in this forum do any of you know people from IUHS currently doing clinicals in the states anywhere...as far as i know the states that you are allowed to do clinicals are in Chicago IL, Atlanta GA and Warren OH as well as having a red cross hospital in Mexico...any info would be a great help.