Harvard Profs

[charger5001]

Anyone else really excited about the Pathology professors brought in from Harvard Medical school? I think both are really good lecturers and that they really drive home the points.


I think this shows that the school continues to make great leaps as it ensures the best education for its students.


I also hear the Biostats and Path 2 professors are from Harvard as well.

[shyilguy]

Can we stop trying to inflate the schools true outlook? If all of your professors were from Harvard you still could not get cali lic. So you can now stop gloating about it.

[MedSter]

Can we stop trying to inflate the schools true outlook? If all of your professors were from Harvard you still could not get cali lic. So you can now stop gloating about it.

I smell a little troll.... by the name of shyilguy....maybe bitter about SMU having Harvard profs now and brings up Cali issue as a form of an "argument" against SMU.
All I can say is I wish I wouldve had a Harvard educated Prof teaching me pathology or any other course, SMU students will benefit from that.
SMU had Harvard profs teaching the ACLS course in Maine last semester, so no matter what anybody says, there are HARVARD PROFESSORS teaching SMU students, nuff said.
Needless to say, SMU isnt Harvard, but it does feel good knowing that SMU is improving that much more.

[MD999]

Can we stop trying to inflate the schools true outlook? If all of your professors were from Harvard you still could not get cali lic. So you can now stop gloating about it.

I agree with my buddy medster....shyilguy is a trolling around, a little sad that SMU has some Harvard Profs instructing courses... it's ok, we have some profs who went to/ taught at a medical school outside of the US too I think (like EVERY Caribbean school does) ...does that make you feel better?
Great point shyilguy, SMU doesnt have california!! Now just dont mention the fact that we have pretty much the majority of the USA and of the world....leave that part out or else your petty comeback wont stick, ok?

I agree Medster, I wish I wouldve had Harvard profs teaching me pathology, especially Path 1 when I took it, but Path 2 was awesome because the Maine profs are great professors. Now it seems like Pathology in Cayman and Maine are pretty much taught in sync with each other. Also from what I heard about the Harvard profs, theyre doing an EXCELLENT JOB there.

[stephew]

I wish I wouldve had Harvard profs teaching me pathology, ah but then one must ask how you feel if your patients (or the resdiency programs you apply to or states you appeal for license to) prefer a harvard, or at least, a US trained doc to an IMG. Are you equally as ok with that? Don't we then scream "irrelevant"! so readily? (that's rhetorical; just do a thread search on lou dobbs) I often wonder how many IMGs would be the first to look down on offshore students if they had made it to the us to begin with.

[MD999]

I wish I wouldve had Harvard profs teaching me pathology, ah but then one must ask how you feel if your patients (or the resdiency programs you apply to or states you appeal for license to) prefer a harvard, or at least, a US trained doc to an IMG. Are you equally as ok with that? Don't we then scream "irrelevant"! so readily? (that's rhetorical; just do a thread search on lou dobbs) I often wonder how many IMGs would be the first to look down on offshore students if they had made it to the us to begin with.

I think if i replied to your post as I'd like to, I wouldnt stop typing for days.
But simply put, my Path 1 professor at SMU, who is long gone now, sucked. She didnt know how to teach pathology and she had no real organization going on. Then when the Windham, Maine professors took over and started teaching the South Portland (Cayman) campus pathology the following semester, I felt a world of difference in the teaching styles. Maybe I'm just more used to a real US teaching style, I dont know.
The only relevant things in my opinion when applying to residency programs are your Step 1 and 2 scores and also your clinical training and your transition and integration of basic and clinical sciences and applying it sufficiently to treat the patient in front of you.
The latter part may be quite subjective, but I hope that the USMLE scores will be competitive enough to counter that if neccessary.

[swimguy23]

at auc we have profs from duke.....one is a specific med psych prof and another is a path prof.....no comment regarding the med psych :roll:
and the path prof isnt bad, but still i dont run around bragging that ive had duke profs

[H3roNo1]

at auc we have profs from duke.....one is a specific med psych prof and another is a path prof.....no comment regarding the med psych :roll:
and the path prof isnt bad, but still i dont run around bragging that ive had duke profs

Thats because the Duke professors aren't nearly as recognized as the Harvard professors........so until then I myself wouldn;t be braggng about getting taught by Duke professors

[MedSter]

at auc we have profs from duke.....one is a specific med psych prof and another is a path prof.....no comment regarding the med psych :roll:
and the path prof isnt bad, but still i dont run around bragging that ive had duke profs


First off, nobody's bragging. The original post is a post of excitement and satisfaction. Nobody went into AUC's forum and blurted out that SMU has Harvard profs. So if SMU students are happy that they have some nice professors let them be. It's their business, until it addresses you by name. I personally think SMU students should be proud, as I am, to finally see major improvements in the academic area as SMU is seeing. This will hopefully produce higher USMLE rates and more competent physicians in the world.

Secondly, I would hope that a medical school has prof's who taught at other universities or graduated from an esteemed one. I find it helpful to have a professor like that who uses that kind of teaching style as they would at highly-esteemed US medical universities.

[LqdPls]

ah but then one must ask how you feel if your patients (or the resdiency programs you apply to or states you appeal for license to) prefer a harvard, or at least, a US trained doc to an IMG. Are you equally as ok with that? Don't we then scream "irrelevant"! so readily? (that's rhetorical; just do a thread search on lou dobbs) I often wonder how many IMGs would be the first to look down on offshore students if they had made it to the us to begin with.

Once again you miss the point completely, as this is the second Harvard thread that you have responded to on the SMU forum. Please, let's not turn this thread into another war of labels, emotionally charged opinions, and incessant downplay of the obvious progress and growth of a young medical school. The bottom line is that if you get the opportunity to learn from the best, you simply cannot ignore the obvious advantage. Like with any other profession or artform, your professors, teachers, and mentors, play a big role in your academic progress and education. You have to be excited about it, you have to brag.

[swimguy23]

at auc we have profs from duke.....one is a specific med psych prof and another is a path prof.....no comment regarding the med psych :roll:
and the path prof isnt bad, but still i dont run around bragging that ive had duke profs


First off, nobody's bragging. The original post is a post of excitement and satisfaction. Nobody went into AUC's forum and blurted out that SMU has Harvard profs. So if SMU students are happy that they have some nice professors let them be. It's their business, until it addresses you by name. I personally think SMU students should be proud, as I am, to finally see major improvements in the academic area as SMU is seeing. This will hopefully produce higher USMLE rates and more competent physicians in the world.

Secondly, I would hope that a medical school has prof's who taught at other universities or graduated from an esteemed one. I find it helpful to have a professor like that who uses that kind of teaching style as they would at highly-esteemed US medical universities.

you're missing the point.....all that im saying is a prof from harvard will carry no weight with you in the future.....yes be happy you are being taught by esteemed faculty.....my point with Duke is that duke is an awesome and well recognized and prestigious school as well.....it doesnt make the faculty good tho.....also, we have friends of the family who are yale profs, one of which we are convinced has an iq slightly above 70 but i guess yale profs arent seen as prestigious either.....Again be happy that you are getting profs from recognized schools but you can be taught by the greatest professors in the world but unless you put the time in yourself and memorize all the information all by yourself you wont pass the boards.....and if you dont pass the boards who is going to give a flying fart if you were taught by harvard profs

[SMU_Information]

I really didn't want to post on this one, but...

I have to say I am a little disturbed by the negativity of some of the non-SMU posters. There was no bragging or gloating in the OP's or subsequent SMU posters comments. To me, it simply seemed a source of pride and excitement, directed at other SMU students or those thinking about the school.

Why can this not just be seen as a positive thing? Of course students will still have to study, I don't believe I read anyone's post that stated otherwise. I personally don't think steph's comments were negative (maybe a tangental to the thread, but not negative).

To the SMU posters, I am glad you are excited, and I hope you take the negative comments with a grain of salt.

[Bob2k]

the neurosurgeon lecturing last term was great too. what happened to dr. *********

[swimguy23]

I have to say I am a little disturbed by the negativity of some of the non-SMU posters
there was no negativity coming from my direction, im just stating its up to you to pass the boards, not where your visiting profs are from.....and I believe history has shown throughout time that pride is one's biggest enemy

Why can this not just be seen as a positive thing?
it is.....accept the fact that people are happy your school is making progress.....dont be so quick to retract and refer to anyone who says anything other than YAY SMU is a troll.....its good to see another school make it

To the SMU posters, I am glad you are excited, and I hope you take the negative comments with a grain of salt.
Be excited and stay focused

[MedSter]

at auc we have profs from duke.....one is a specific med psych prof and another is a path prof.....no comment regarding the med psych :roll:
and the path prof isnt bad, but still i dont run around bragging that ive had duke profs


First off, nobody's bragging. The original post is a post of excitement and satisfaction. Nobody went into AUC's forum and blurted out that SMU has Harvard profs. So if SMU students are happy that they have some nice professors let them be. It's their business, until it addresses you by name. I personally think SMU students should be proud, as I am, to finally see major improvements in the academic area as SMU is seeing. This will hopefully produce higher USMLE rates and more competent physicians in the world.

Secondly, I would hope that a medical school has prof's who taught at other universities or graduated from an esteemed one. I find it helpful to have a professor like that who uses that kind of teaching style as they would at highly-esteemed US medical universities.

you're missing the point.....all that im saying is a prof from harvard will carry no weight with you in the future.....yes be happy you are being taught by esteemed faculty.....my point with Duke is that duke is an awesome and well recognized and prestigious school as well.....it doesnt make the faculty good tho.....also, we have friends of the family who are yale profs, one of which we are convinced has an iq slightly above 70 but i guess yale profs arent seen as prestigious either.....Again be happy that you are getting profs from recognized schools but you can be taught by the greatest professors in the world but unless you put the time in yourself and memorize all the information all by yourself you wont pass the boards.....and if you dont pass the boards who is going to give a flying fart if you were taught by harvard profs

Of course its up to the student to take what's being taught and apply it. If you dont pass USMLE then you cant practice medicine in the US, its as simple as that. You can have Harvard, AUC, SMU, Ross, Indian, Russian trained teachers teaching you,but if you cant get passed the USMLE then it doesnt mean crap.

On that note, when you have a great professor who teaches the material in a fashion that you can make the clinical correlation seem a little simpler then thats where the difference is. Assuming students go to medical school to learn to become physicians, they will soak up that knowledge from the great professor, and use it in conjunction with their studies.

SMU has been moving in the direction of hiring those kinds of professors. They've slowly but surely shed themselves of professors who taught in non-USMLE style fashions. The feedback coming from the Harvard profs has been great. One can safely say that every course taught now at SMU is taught with the complete direction of clinical correlations and USMLE in mind.

In addition, having the Kaplan books and videos and Kaplan Qbank that SMU is adding to the tuition is worth it's weight in gold. The comprehensive NBME exam that all students will take at the end of the semester is genious.

California, Texas or whatever state we dont get is ok with me. It's their loss. SMU students are on track to become great physicians if they take advantage of what's being offered to them, which is more than what some schools in the supposed "big 3" are offering their students.

[AmericanIMG]

the neurosurgeon lecturing last term was great too. what happened to dr. *****

both neuro profs are back.

:wink:

[Bob2k]

no, i was asking about the physio prof, one of the second termers told me he is gone

[ES21]

I agree completely the school continues to modify and tweak the curriculum to enhance the learning atmosphere. I have seen strides in each of my 4 semesters at SMU.

I am particularly happy that the school moved Path II to 4th semester so that 5th semester is basically a review for the USMLE.

My roomate is a 3rd semester and she said how down to earth and really upbeat the Path 1 professors from Harvard are. I cant speak for her class but I can say SMU administration again comes through. This now makes 4 Harvard professors on the SMU faculty roster if I am not mistaken.

I also hear the Patient doctor 3 professor (M.D) is a recent graduate from SMU and a very upbeat guy. I think its great that clinical skills, physical exams, histories etc. are all started early on. I think the 3rd semester begin using Bates physical exam book this semester....

In summary I want to continue thanking the SMU administration for constantly improving our learning experience. I have no doubt in a few years SMU will overtake all carribean schools to be #1 , if it isnt #1 already !!

[stephew]

Thats because the Duke professors aren't nearly as recognized as the Harvard professors........so until then I myself wouldn;t be braggng about getting taught by Duke professorsthat is one of the most nonsensical things posted in a long time. And that is saying something.

[stephew]

ah but then one must ask how you feel if your patients (or the resdiency programs you apply to or states you appeal for license to) prefer a harvard, or at least, a US trained doc to an IMG. Are you equally as ok with that? Don't we then scream "irrelevant"! so readily? (that's rhetorical; just do a thread search on lou dobbs) I often wonder how many IMGs would be the first to look down on offshore students if they had made it to the us to begin with.

Once again you miss the point completely, as this is the second Harvard thread that you have responded to on the SMU forum. Please, let's not turn this thread into another war of labels, emotionally charged opinions, and incessant downplay of the obvious progress and growth of a young medical school. The bottom line is that if you get the opportunity to learn from the best, you simply cannot ignore the obvious advantage. Like with any other profession or artform, your professors, teachers, and mentors, play a big role in your academic progress and education. You have to be excited about it, you have to brag.Once again I miss the point? I think not. I think you missed that I was branching in a tangent. BTW just because they're harvard doesnt mean they're the best. And being an instructor to harvard med students, I can say that. However I dont think there is anything wrong to feel excited about it. That you see me as labeling, and playing down a med school reflects more on your feelings than my intentions, but as you say, folks are inclined to do that because the inferioity complex of IMGs make it "emotionally charged". I have no problem if SMU or any school grows and thrives and becomes excellent and strong.

[stephew]

I really didn't want to post on this one, but...

I have to say I am a little disturbed by the negativity of some of the non-SMU posters. There was no bragging or gloating in the OP's or subsequent SMU posters comments. To me, it simply seemed a source of pride and excitement, directed at other SMU students or those thinking about the school.

Why can this not just be seen as a positive thing? Of course students will still have to study, I don't believe I read anyone's post that stated otherwise. I personally don't think steph's comments were negative (maybe a tangental to the thread, but not negative).

To the SMU posters, I am glad you are excited, and I hope you take the negative comments with a grain of salt.thank you; that was exactly it; it was a tangential thing I posted; I do muse upon the psyche of IMGs (and yes, sgu folks included) which often includeds a dualism of inferiority along with elitism. BUt thank you for noting that it was not at all meant to be a negative regarding your school. Frankly any excellence is welcome and I'm a big believer in the superiority of talent over pedigree. All the best,
S

[billydoc]

Having Harvard profs in your corner is a good thing, and yes it is a big deal for a young school like SMU :!: Somehow even the fact of "what is" gets debated, which is a bit sick. :twisted: :!: No matter how you look at it it does add to SMU's record,and to individual student's CV. On that note does anyone know what's up with SMU/Harvard hyperbaric medicine research on the Brac?
Thanks