Future applicant to St. George's in Greneda

[bcg]

I am currently finishing up my third year at a Canadian University. I am interested in applying to medical school... I actually hope to get into the States, since I have family there I plan to move there eventually, but after reading a lot of the forums on here and reading other websites..I feel like my chances are just getting slimmer! =(

My overall gpa is 80 and science gpa is about 78.5. I'm also enrolled in a fourth-year honours thesis research program with a professor at my University for next year. I like computers so I self-taught Java and Html and just learn new code out of my own interest.

As work experience, I have worked (as summer jobs):
for an Insurance firm, collaborating settlements with lawyers and claimants, another summer I worked programming in Java for the Internal Server of a company, and another summer as a medical assistant in Neonatology in a hospital (different from my volunteer hospital, different cities). Some of my extra-curriculars are: volunteer work at a hospital in Emergency department, volunteer work for the Heart and Stroke Foundation, and I tutor younger students in math and science.

My MCAT score last summer was 8 **, 8 PS, 6 VR and R in the essay. I am re-doing my MCAT this summer, this time with taking a Princeton Review course.

I just have a few questions if anyone can please respond:

What are my approximate chances of getting into an American medical school and/or getting into SGU, given my gpa and (hopefully higher) MCAT score?
- At SGU, do the clinical rotations mean third and fourth year of the medical program (to obtain the MD)?
- After you get your MD at SGU, do you apply through the national residency placement that everyone else in US and Canadian medical schools apply through? If so, what guarantee is there that you will obtain residency? What happens if you DONT get residency!?

Thanks!

- Bina

[Rico]

I am currently finishing up my third year at a Canadian University. I am interested in applying to medical school... I actually hope to get into the States, since I have family there I plan to move there eventually, but after reading a lot of the forums on here and reading other websites..I feel like my chances are just getting slimmer! =(

My overall gpa is 80 and science gpa is about 78.5. I'm also enrolled in a fourth-year honours thesis research program with a professor at my University for next year. I like computers so I self-taught Java and Html and just learn new code out of my own interest.

As work experience, I have worked (as summer jobs):
for an Insurance firm, collaborating settlements with lawyers and claimants, another summer I worked programming in Java for the Internal Server of a company, and another summer as a medical assistant in Neonatology in a hospital (different from my volunteer hospital, different cities). Some of my extra-curriculars are: volunteer work at a hospital in Emergency department, volunteer work for the Heart and Stroke Foundation, and I tutor younger students in math and science.

My MCAT score last summer was 8 **, 8 PS, 6 VR and R in the essay. I am re-doing my MCAT this summer, this time with taking a Princeton Review course.

I just have a few questions if anyone can please respond:

What are my approximate chances of getting into an American medical school and/or getting into SGU, given my gpa and (hopefully higher) MCAT score?
- At SGU, do the clinical rotations mean third and fourth year of the medical program (to obtain the MD)?
- After you get your MD at SGU, do you apply through the national residency placement that everyone else in US and Canadian medical schools apply through? If so, what guarantee is there that you will obtain residency? What happens if you DONT get residency!?

Thanks!

- Bina

Bina,
Are you a U.S citizen? ( This answers many questions )

Rico

[Toddaa1]

I am currently finishing up my third year at a Canadian University. I am interested in applying to medical school... I actually hope to get into the States, since I have family there I plan to move there eventually, but after reading a lot of the forums on here and reading other websites..I feel like my chances are just getting slimmer! =(

My overall gpa is 80 and science gpa is about 78.5. I'm also enrolled in a fourth-year honours thesis research program with a professor at my University for next year. I like computers so I self-taught Java and Html and just learn new code out of my own interest.

As work experience, I have worked (as summer jobs):
for an Insurance firm, collaborating settlements with lawyers and claimants, another summer I worked programming in Java for the Internal Server of a company, and another summer as a medical assistant in Neonatology in a hospital (different from my volunteer hospital, different cities). Some of my extra-curriculars are: volunteer work at a hospital in Emergency department, volunteer work for the Heart and Stroke Foundation, and I tutor younger students in math and science.

My MCAT score last summer was 8 **, 8 PS, 6 VR and R in the essay. I am re-doing my MCAT this summer, this time with taking a Princeton Review course.

I just have a few questions if anyone can please respond:

What are my approximate chances of getting into an American medical school and/or getting into SGU, given my gpa and (hopefully higher) MCAT score?
- At SGU, do the clinical rotations mean third and fourth year of the medical program (to obtain the MD)?
- After you get your MD at SGU, do you apply through the national residency placement that everyone else in US and Canadian medical schools apply through? If so, what guarantee is there that you will obtain residency? What happens if you DONT get residency!?

Thanks!

- Bina

You'll need to kick some butt on the MCAT this summer if you want to get inot a US school, they generally look for people with at least a 30 (but ive heard that you need above a 32 to be considered competitive). i think right now you will probably get into SGU (i think 80 is considerd very good in canada )? you also greatly increase your chances of getting into a us school if you can somehow claim your a resident of the state your relatives live in and apply to schools in that state.

-T-

[Rico]

I am from Canada and mine is 92.

80 is not really competitive. If you have 85+, you will be on the Dean's list which is good.

You can apply to Mcmaster with 80. If you have lots of volunteer and community services, you can consider Ottawa, Mc and N-Ontario where they don't need MCAT.

But if you wanna apply for rest, you need over 30 on your MCAT + those volunteer and community services.....

For States, As far as I know, you will be considered Internation students ( if non-US citizen) and then you need higher MCAT mark than in-state applicants... Not to mention out of state tuition :(

my 2 cents
Rico

[Nimitt]

Bina,

I will try to answer your questions regarding SGU.
First of all I dont know if you are compeitive or not because I dont know what 80 is when you said it was your GPA and secondly you havent taken the MCAT. As I tell everyone, SGU is one of those schools that really looks at the whole application not just the numbers. If you have other unique experiece as you said with your thesis and volunteer work those are a big plus.
As far as clinical rotations: answer is yes it is your 3rd and 4th year of medical school and if you are canadian as I suspect (I am such a sleuth!!!) you will have no problems with rotations. However residency often becomes difficult for the canadians due to visa issues. But there are many canadians that have gotten residencies from SGU so it has been done and the school helps as much as possible.
THe other point you made was about residency. SGU grads go through residency process exactly the same way the US students do with minor differences that I will not bring up here (ECFMG is our dean, etc....). YOu will be considered a FMG and being canadian you will have to be on top of your game as far as the whole visa issue is concerned.
Is there a gurantee you will get a residency: NO there is never a gurantee there are US students (although fewer than FMGs) that dont get into reisedency and have to reapply. What you do is you do a one year preliminary position if you can get that and reapply or you do research for one year and reapply. Being realistic and applying for the appropriate residency helps alot (dont apply to ortho with a board score of 200).
All that said SGU has a very good match rate and once the darn list comes up you can take a look where. Look at the match 2005 sticky above to get an idea.

[bcg]

I am a Canadian Citizen, not a US citizen...by GPA being 80 cumulative and 78.5 science cumulative I meant like my average..."GPA" is incorrect I guess because that is a 4.0 scale really...
and >80 is considered Dean's list in my university so right now I am on the Dean's list. I did write my MCAT last summer, but with a 22R I'm definitely doing it again, this time around I'm not going to work in the summer and I'm taking the Princeton Review course. Studying on my own was hard when I was working 12 hour days since my job, although great experience, took up most of my time.

Question - How do I 'prove' that I have family in a certain state when I apply and how does that make them re-consider my application.

And Rico, which university did you goto where you got your 92 cumulative average?