sorry for another will i get in

[mdmaybe]

well i shall make it short and simple...

B.Sc. Chem., overall 2.6, pre-med 2.7, no mcat, 12 years experience as counsellor for mental patients,

new recent courses taken, so far A+, (anat, pharm, hlth)

great academic, employer refs., good physician ref.

and the verdict is......

[whoapec]

my special insider sources are telling me you should apply to know the REAL answer.

[Siddman]

well i shall make it short and simple...

B.Sc. Chem., overall 2.6, pre-med 2.7, no mcat, 12 years experience as counsellor for mental patients,

new recent courses taken, so far A+, (anat, pharm, hlth)

great academic, employer refs., good physician ref.

and the verdict is......

You have to apply to find out......

Siddman

[sprvs]

You gpa is not in your favor. But if you are getting good grades on the recent classes you are taking, it may help. I would suggest you to make a point in your personal statement that you can do well in courses if you are serious, which you are proving by getting A's in the recent classes. Also, try to add some explanations why you were not doing as well in undergrad - may be you were working full time while attending school or had family issues, had to raise children or something like that. You obviously have strong experiences working in clinical settings, which will give you edge over other applicants. I would say, go ahead and apply.

[mdmaybe]

well, i'm working on my personal statement now
i have all kinds of reasons for my disasterous undergrad, but mostly just plain immaturity. i was sick alot as well, but mentioning it sounds too "excuse" like to me.

[ResearchingGuy]

Take a look at the sticky thread above. I also highly suggest that you call Gardner. They are generally helpful about letting you know where you stand.

Best of Luck!

[wolfvgang22]

You gpa is not in your favor. But if you are getting good grades on the recent classes you are taking, it may help. I would suggest you to make a point in your personal statement that you can do well in courses if you are serious, which you are proving by getting A's in the recent classes. Also, try to add some explanations why you were not doing as well in undergrad - may be you were working full time while attending school or had family issues, had to raise children or something like that. You obviously have strong experiences working in clinical settings, which will give you edge over other applicants. I would say, go ahead and apply.
I agree. Excuses are fine as long as they are legitimate excuses. Make no apologies for example, if you got diagnosed with cancer or broke your hip, etc. If you are just talking about a cold, though, that would be another story.

For example, I worked full time, overnight to pay for undergrad. This made it nearly impossible for me to complete my Calculus homework while taking Physics and Biochemistry at the same time. Hence a sub-par grade in Calculus. But my other classes made up for it more recently, and I never again made a low grade like that.
That's an understandable excuse, and I included it in my personal statement to show how I overcame that setback, highlighting my tenacity.
Good luck!

[edoki]

But be careful not to write what will make the committee see you as not a competitive candidate. Be diplomatic.

Cheers!

[opnr2k2]

I don't you should complain or provide explanation of what happened in the past. If they want to know anything about that they will ask you in your interview. You should concentrate on the new person you are now and how you feel you have matured and are ready for med school.

[drj2b]

my academic stats were definitely not stellar either, just apply, u never know!

i had some medical reasons for my crappy marks too, but didn't mention it, as it was only part of the reason for my bad grades.