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RossMD2006
06-22-2003, 09:15 PM
Hello all-

I would like to write about my impressions of Ross thus far as a first semester student divided into the following categories. I, too, used this site as a reference prior to enrolling at Ross. Thus, I would like to help prospectives understand how things run here.

SCHOOL

ROSS GIVES YOU A CHANCE TO BECOME A DOCTOR. NEVER FORGET THAT. That is what you have to keep in mind when you are here. However, I am still troubled by the number of printers here in the library. You have two printers here in the library for 1000 students. You have two copier machines for 1000 students. On top of that, the printers break down once in a while and then, all of a sudden, you have no printers available. The copier machines get jammed every second and again, you are down to one copier machine for 1000 students. Of course you can say that these printers can churn out all the paper for the students, but c'mon 2 printers and 2 copiers...how stingy can you get? You pay $10,000 a semester for this?

In addition, SOME professors do not print out handouts for students. In my opinion, this is ridiculous. The powerpoint presentations are available on the G drive (which students can access), but often times you are not able to print the slides because it has been locked by the IT department (because they dont want students printing out all these slides thus, jamming the printers). So, although you have a student quota of $14.00/week (140 pages), you can't use any of it to print out these valuable powerpoint slides for your medical education. So, when you go to lecture, you have no organization to the lecture being presented. The information that is presented to you flies over your head as you write as fast as you can. I have resorted to reading the chapters in the book trying to get an idea of what the professor said in lecture. I recently paid $8 US dollars for lecture material, which could have been posted on the G drive. Along with the $10,000 I pay for tuition, I have to pay an extra $8 for notes.

Students at a particular US medical school had their notes bound and binded for them during the first two years of basic sciences. We are medical students and will be future professionals. I just wish that we were treated like so. Having to go print out your own notes is not what I had in mind of an institution of higher learning.

STUDENTS

If you are going to come to school here at Ross so you can make that 6-figure salary in four years, don't even bother coming here. If you think that medical school is going to be an extension of college, save your money and go travel the world. I've noticed a lot of students that are a bunch of immature goof-offs. Simply stated, I'd rather die than have to go through the suffering they would put me through as a doctor. So, please, if you have a dream of being a doctor and are willing to work hard then do come here. If not, stay home and pursue your real interests.

Over the weekend, I was studying at 3 in the morning working my butt off. Then, four goofballs come walking in the room drunk and begin screaming as others were trying to study. They were asked to quiet down but still were yelling and acting like 3 year old kids. It is sad to see that these people will be our future doctors.

If you come here and study to just PASS, dont bother coming here. If I had a heart attack and was admitted to the ER, I wouldn't want a doctor who studied so that he could just PASS. Would you? If you come here so that you will become the best doctor possible, then please join us here at Ross. If not, then stay home.

Well, that is all I have to say. I hope all of you prospective students understand what I had to say. So far, my experience here at Ross is good except for a few things stated above.

Fear
06-22-2003, 09:32 PM
thanks for taking the time to post this, good luck studying.

Shah_Patel_PT
06-22-2003, 11:23 PM
thanks for the info.

newB
06-23-2003, 10:15 AM
What do you call the person that graduated last in Medical School?











A doctor.....

Ganja Magic
06-23-2003, 12:08 PM
Good post, RossMD.... Just hang in there. :)

RossMD2006
06-23-2003, 01:26 PM
The last person who graduates last from medical school is an MD. I have heard that many times.

For crying out loud, there are ppl who worry about the grading system here, i.e. what is the minumum passing score so that they can just barely pass. That's what you call an underachiever...the real students are the ppl who say,"Man, I want to get an A on this next test". You can graduate from here with the minimum...somehow pass the Step 1 with the minumum passing score and be a doctor...but when I come in to see you, the DOCTOR, you'd better not tell me that you got a 53 on that Biochemistry test first semester.

Good Luck.

MitchDC
06-23-2003, 04:46 PM
Like yours, the complaints that students have about Ross are generally fairly minor details (printers, copiers, other students, etc). I think that really says a lot about Ross if the major things all of us have to complain about are like the ones you mentioned. I just really noticed this when I read you post. Thanks for the encouragement.

MitchDC

medNoir
06-23-2003, 06:09 PM
Up to the first mini, I fell a lecture behind in my readings. So I'm amazed that I did well. Seeing that I've got a shot at that magic tripple-A, I've been inspired to stay a lecture ahead. The evening before each lecture, I do detailed notes on all the chapters that will be covered. I won't end the day without it. Which is why I'm often waiting for the van near midnight. It comes in handy when professors don't have handouts or don't follow the ones we get.

Not everyone will end the program with a degree and not everyone should. The sphincter has to be narrow somewhere, either in the beginning or at the end. Just don't let your average be 2.99. I hear they round down.

oc23
06-23-2003, 11:20 PM
I agree with everything RossMD said, but I have one more thing to add:


The financial aid staff and the registrar staff here and in New Jersey need a lot of improvement. It took a month before I got my alternative loan check because of lack of communication between the Dominica and NJ offices, and because of the NJ staff making one mistake after another! I wouldn't even bother to get into the details of this, but I had no idea a group of people could mess things up that much! What's more, I am now 2 months overdue for my student loans because the deferment forms that I gave the registrar on May 8 were not sent to my lenders. If those lenders do not get those forms in two weeks, I will be 3 months overdue and my account will be in default. I couldn't even get any response from anyone about this! :x

....but on a good note....I have to say I very much like almost all of the professors here. :)

Ross
06-24-2003, 09:29 AM
Go check your PM. I've given you a suggestion.

jim
06-24-2003, 09:50 AM
yes, most people complaints are nitpicky things. and yes, unfortunately, many students have no right to be in med school. I had a friedn on the rock who lied constantly, screwed over many of our classmates. she screwed me over one time, i gave her a second chance, and she was cool wiith me for a couple semsters, but i never spoke to her again after 4th semster. later heard she was sleeping around for weed. we had another guy who was a little guy, and attacked a few different people, including me. every time, he used the line" seriously, they are 2 times my size, why would i attack them?" shoulda beat him to a pulp. whats good to know, is when they hit the clinicals, many of the lowlifes get weeded out. the attendings dont fall for that crap. you need letters of rec for residency, and if every doc thinks you are a loser, you will have a hard time getting a rec.

medNoir
06-25-2003, 07:36 PM
It's Like A...

There's one professor here who likes to use analogies to explain concepts. Sometimes they are just ok. Sometimes I think they aren't even close.

This time, he wanted to explain the specificity of immune systems. He said it's like there is the campus police who handle most events. But if things get really bad, they bring in the cops with guns and for the most dangerous types they have sharpshooters.

I don't agree. Going from baton to pistol then to sniper rifle in response to a dangerous character is not really "specificity" in the Immunoglobulin sense. That is more an increase in intensity. The difference of hitting a guy in the head with a wooden stick, 9mm or 50cal.

Nonspecificity vs Specificity is better explained by saying there is a police force that is here to respond to distrubances. That's nonspecificity. But if one type of crime warrants attention and there is no solution yet, then a detective will be assigned to the case. He/she will analyze the modus opperandi, collect evidence, look for similar events, develope a profile of the suspect, interview witnesses. If while on a stakeout he sees an unrelated crime down the street, he will not respond to it. That's not his job. His job is this crime and this perp. And if he gets really good, in the future he will only handle these kinds of crimes. Then he may focus his career in handling only these kinds of crimes made by this individual. THAT's specificity.

I went to the professor and explained why I think his analogy should be modified this way.

He looked at me and said

"get a life".


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p.s. No he did not really say "get a life". He really said "police ? snipers ? detectives ? Don't get confused with such things. Just learn the subject matter." But "get a life" makes for a better story. And as Dr. Volgol said, just alittle elaboration makes for better folklore.