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preppystud
06-21-2003, 04:57 PM
i recently transferred out of AUC and i have a lot of bad things to say about the school and the caliber of student it graduates. john smith obviously isn't my name, but i won't tell you what my real name is because auc has changed students' grades after they've transferred in the past and i don't want word getting back to anyone there that i am badmouthing the school. if you decide to go there, do so with extreme caution.

also, a word about why i'm contacting you. i have written 10-15 other valuemd users based upon posts that indicate all of you are considering attending auc. half of my motivation is that i'm bitter because i was a strong student (could have probably attended a US school if i'd waited 1 year) and i feel i was scammed by auc in that they took A LOT of money for an extremely inadequate education, although they promised a quality education. the other half of my motivation is that i was in your shoes a short time ago and i wish someone had contacted me (you did a smart thing in researching the school by getting into valuemd ahead of time - i didn't - and this is your reward).

of course, many grads of auc ultimately become licensed, but it's probably a much smaller percentage of the initial students than you'd think (or than they'll tell you). plus, if you go there and become a good doctor, it's because you taught yourself - GUARANTEED. auc is really just a wildly overpriced ticket to take the usmle (NOT an adequate preparation for the usmle), a 20 month caribbean vacation, and access to sub-mediocre facilities and even worse profs. plus, there's no guarantee that they won't absolutely screw you... read on.

my auc complaints:

1) administration changed students grades from passing to failing (not mine and i'd like to keep it that way!) after they either transferred or indicated that they wanted to transfer

2) a student attempted to tape record a professor who was notorious for contradicting himself and changing grades, the professor found out and lifted the student off his feet by his neck and held him up against a wall, and the professor was never even reprimanded for it!

3) the school hides information on what states grads can/can't practice in, what states grads can/can't do clinicals or residency in, what percentage of clinical students have to go to england (higher than you think), what percentage of students pass usmle (first time pass rate, and overall pass rate will both be lower than you think), what percentage of the professors have MDs or have ever taken the usmle

4) 2 male professors are known to have had sexual relations with female students, and one male professor has had MULTIPLE allegations of sexually harrassing female students and spouses of male students without being reprimanded

5) a professor was known to have drunkenly approached several students on different occasions to ask to borrow money in casinos without being reprimanded

6) a professor was known to be distributing exams to select students prior to administering the exams (this professor actually was removed to auc's credit)

7) classes are curved (i've seen as high as 35%) so that unqualified students pass (COULD BE YOU...) and keep paying tuition - these students will probably never pass the usmle, but THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THEY'RE DOING ANYTHING WRONG

icon_cool.gif exams were given with such horrible spelling and punctuation errors that deciphering the true meanings of questions was simply not possible

9) professors write their own crappy text books and require that you buy them for class (including a very stupid book of POETRY by one idiotic professor!?!?!)... and then you will spend hundreds of dollars per semester AFTER YOU BUY YOUR BOOKS on worthless garbage because they tell you it's required (not to mention the $5/day library late charge)

i could go on and on, but i think the following quote (from an auc professor who left the school) sums up the school's attitude pretty well: "they don't even supply gas to the bunsen burners in the lab because students who are $200,000 in debt and have no chance of ever practicing medicine would find blowing up the school too tempting and too easy."

please do not share this information with current auc students or display it publicly on any bulletin boards. as a former student of a school that has withheld transcripts and even changed grades to punish students, i do not want it known that i am warning people about the way they operate... and some students might suspect who i am if they read this. if you object to what i'm saying or don't want to use the advice i'm giving (which is not to go to auc because it's a scam), please just disregard the message and don't try to make my life worse for trying to help you.

someone else asked me to rate the foreign schools i know about so i'll include that for you. of the schools i recommend, i do so in the following order, but take into account what factors are important to you (i.e. cost, local community outside of school, language, region of the world, etc...):

1) st george's (grenada) - education and reputation rival us schools, but by far the most expensive foreign school

2) saba - excellent education, well proven (see website for list of residency matches), low cost, but currently doesn't have california licensure (supposedly it's coming) on a small/slow island (but it's one of the world's top ten scuba locations, has a couple good beaches, and is also just an hour boat ride from st maarten which has a good night life)

3) st christopher's (england ) - solid education (recently reported a 100% pass rate for one semester's usmle performance, usually around 85%), less expensive than some ($6000/$6500 per semester), located in england (avoid caribbean stigma), but it's relatively new and unproven and doesn't have california licensure yet

4) universidad autonoma de guadalajara (mexico) - probably as good an education and reputation as st george's (with a lower cost), but located in mexico and you need to know or learn spanish for upper level coursework or clinicals

5) ross (dominica) - long history, well established, good reputation, but it's on a bad noodle island and is rumored to have changed ownership several times recently and also to have lost many faculty to other schools (including st christopher's and auc)

the following foreign medical schools may be worth investigating, but i have very little direct knowledge of them:

1) st eustatius - very new and unproven, but i've heard good things from students about the education and the way students are treated

2) st matthews (grand caymen) - very new and unproven

recommendations on worst foreign med schools (avoid at all costs):

1) medical university of the americas (belize and nevis)

2) spartan (st lucia) - there is currently a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT against the school for WITHHOLDING TRANSCRIPTS and FALSELY REPORTING FAILING GRADES as a "punishment" for students who transferred to other schools

3) st james (bonaire)

4) auc (st maarten) - it's EXTREMELY SHADY, HIGHLY OVERPRICED, and you get a POOR EDUCATION

the best advice i can give is to compare the website for a us school (try university of florida or university of utah) and the website for a good caribbean school (try saba or st george's) and the website for auc. look specifically at how much of a resource the website would be if you were a student taking classes or in clinical rotations and you will gain some insight into how much importance the administration places upon looking out for the students and offering a quality medical education. another incredibly revealing statistic is attrition rate (percentage of students who enroll, but do not become graduates of that program) - inquire at all the schools you are considering, but be forwarned - some schools (auc) will lie to you.

pretty much any foreign med school will accept anyone, but they all put you at a significant disadvantage. if you feel that you have even a prayer of a chance at getting into a US school, HOLD OUT... your path will be much easier that way and your education will be MUCH, MUCH better.

that said, a strong INDEPENDENT STUDIER can do well and make a good career from any of these schools. however, if you only learn what they expect you to learn to achieve 100% on your examinations at auc, you will do bad noodle (but passing) on the boards. ask yourself if you want to pay $9000 per semester, basically for access to a library that's worse than every last us med school and then be required to design your own curriculum and follow it if you want to do better than 50th percentile on the boards (meaning family practice would be your only choice for residency).

don't hesitate to contact me with any questions and good luck,

jim
06-21-2003, 05:43 PM
sound spretty fake to me. I know people who went to AUC and transfered out, and said the place wa sdpretty cheap about spending moeny on stuff, but this is way out of proportion to anything I have ever heard. i would have to say I dont believe it.

john_smith_532
06-21-2003, 07:06 PM
preppystud,

thanks a lot, buddy. i asked you one simple thing - don't post it publicly. i also told you to just ignore it if you didn't want to take the advice. do me a favor and get rid of it (you can do that by selecting "edit post" and deleting the text). you should also do yourself a favor and get rid of it since it is quite clear from the message that there was a polite request for you to not publicly post it, and not only did you post it, but you did it right next to a photograph of your face. if i read that and saw your proud picture grinning dimly next to it, i'd immediately and permanently brand you 1) a moron, and 2) a back stabber. and there are a lot of people who use these fora that you don't want having that kind of opinion of you (doctors, school administrators, fellow students, attendings, residents, etc...). and while you're doing some public image damage control, you might as well get a less arrogant user name, preppystud. allow me to suggest the following:
don't_trust_me_as_far_as_you_can_throw_my_overweig ht_worthless_carcass
wake up, pal.

none4now
06-22-2003, 01:18 AM
Preppystud,

You should have respected the request of the author. He is right; your face is plastered all over this forum. Anyone who remembers this and you, will not be very likely to trust you in the future.

You could have just given a summary or synopsis of the PM without listing the entire message. It looks like this person may have had a bad experience and is trying to warn and help prospective students without his identity being found out. Even though this is an anonymous forum some people may know who this is by the very content of the PM.

It appears, from several posts, that you don not think before you type.

obadya00
06-22-2003, 08:44 AM
again preppystud has gone to far
are you bored and you want to start trouble
on the auc forum you bad mouth the school to the prospective students
posting messages like ross is better and why do you want to go to auc
and this guy is saying you were a prospective student :wink:
and then you have the audacity to post his pm on for all of us to
see. it doesn't make him look bad, it makes YOU look like a fool
and personally, i am getting tired of seeing your face next to the postings
grow up :wink:

JokerABC
06-22-2003, 09:56 AM
take off that picture of yours. it's making the sidebar fat and closing in message space. advise you to take it off anyway b/c it can be a spark for a photoshop prank.

newB
06-22-2003, 11:58 AM
what in the world are you thinking? He asked you not to post it, if you don't believe it, then delete it; its that simple. You cause a lot of issues on this forum, I would suggest that you do not have the maturity to attend medical school. Go spend a couple of years growing up first, then come back, and get rid of that picture....

dt
06-22-2003, 12:41 PM
I preceive a trend...

I think preppystud understands now. If not, at least he will eventually get it.


dt.

ps. I must admit I was curious what the PM was all about. Had sounded like big secrets -- and I did not get one! Turns out it is not that big a deal.

preppystud
06-22-2003, 12:52 PM
because i am ok with him telling me why auc is bad, but i found that it is hard to believe that he gave me a list of all those schools out there.

that just doesn't make sense. supposely that he only attended auc, what does he know about all other schools? And he rated st. christopher even way ahead of Ross university, that is more like a "smart" advertising than an actual complain email to me.

And the author rated Saba right behind sgu. that doesn't make sense, either. ross and auc both have much longer history than saba.

I would respect his wishes, if his email is not so advertising oriented!

john_smith_532
06-22-2003, 01:10 PM
I preceive a trend...

I think preppystud understands now. If not, at least he will eventually get it.

apparently not!

teratos
06-22-2003, 01:12 PM
edited after a second thought. G

futrphysician
06-22-2003, 01:15 PM
you are ticked that he rated one school ahead of your school of choice? How petty and arrogant can you be? Someone said "moron" here. That is not correct usage for a person like you.

Infantile. That is a more appropriate term to describe you.

This guy asked you to NOT do something. You stabbed him in the back because you thought there was ADVERTISING as a modus operandi? Are you completely stupid? I would think so. I saw nothing in there that said "Drink Coke! We are better than Pepsi!"

He gave his opinion, but I guess in your fascist world, going against your opinion is grounds to lay him out to dry.

Oh yeah, kill the pic. Someone might see you underwater at Ross and pull your regulator.

preppystud
06-22-2003, 01:27 PM
r u so easily fooled?

Why would anyone willingfully spend his time writing such a long email, and sent it to a total stranger?

I am ok with his complains about auc, etc, etc.

but use your mind, why would he go into details listing all those carribean schools? And I didn't even ask him for his opinions on which schools is the best.

And he rated saba and st. christopher way ahead of the one of the two granddaddy Ross. That just showed it blantantly what his email is really about!

bts4202
06-22-2003, 01:28 PM
removed

teratos
06-22-2003, 01:43 PM
you are correct. I have edited the above post... G

mv
06-22-2003, 02:40 PM
Preppystud,

Whether johnsmith's message is authentic or merely a juvenile attempt at marketing other carib med schools, it simply serves no purpose on our Ross forum other than to either bash AUC or bash johnsmith. I have noticed the recent backlash against you and while I do not feel that publicly demonizing your action (or photo) is worthwhile, I must notify you as to how I feel about your lack of respect for this johnsmith and for this forum by publicly displaying johnsmith's message.

In no way, shape, or form am I judging you as a person, please understand that; I still respect your opinions as some of them are of some value to prospective students like myself. But please, in the future, do not post such disrespectful, useless, pieces of information which serve no informative purpose to future students of Ross like myself, current students, or Ross alums.

In my eyes, one of the many reasons this forum was created was to alleviate the fears and insecurities that reside in getting through medical school. Please, let's try and focus on the meaningful instead of doing a disservice to other med schools, other med students, or ourselves.

Jeffk13057
06-22-2003, 03:07 PM
Dude, that was really a bad move.

It's as easy as "DELETE"

JK

hope
06-22-2003, 03:47 PM
why would he put his picture next to his name after saying so many things to insult people? not a good idea.... :(

QuasiMed
06-22-2003, 05:01 PM
may not be his real pic then.

IDreamOfMedicine
06-22-2003, 05:38 PM
but use your mind, why would he go into details listing all those carribean schools? And I didn't even ask him for his opinions on which schools is the best.

And he rated saba and st. christopher way ahead of the one of the two granddaddy Ross. That just showed it blantantly what his email is really about!

Hey preppystud and whoever has similar views like him, i appreciate your opinions, but please DON'T correlate long history with how good a medical school is or how good any school is. That is your first mistake. Every school is different. A perfect example is Rutgers College (I go to Rutgers so I can make this judgement even though it is a great school ) and Stanford. Rutgers College has been around since 1766 and Stanford was founded in 1891 (125 years after). However, Stanford is still believed to be the better school not because of longevity, but because of its advancements and courses. So before you make snap judgements about other medical schools based on history, please stop and think it over and then base your judgments on quality of facilities. Because who knows what will happen in the next 100 years. A medical school we puttin down today can be the Stanford in the future.

Also, before everyone sends me 100 PMs and asks me what med school I am going to, I will save you the trouble by letting you know: St. Christopher's and no I am not advertising, just expressing my opinion because I have cousins who go to both Ross and St. George's and I was advised not to apply there

Thanks

none4now
06-22-2003, 05:39 PM
How about just saying oops, I am sorry I did not intend to cause so much trouble, and delete the text in the post. Maybe show a little sincerity and people will stop bashing you.

So far you have done nothing but come up with some ridiculous self-justification for posting the PM.

preppystud
06-22-2003, 07:47 PM
now, all of sudden, so many people from St. christophers are responding to the messages that I have posted. This is definitely one of their sly sales method.

too bad, it didn't work on me.

And for you people who think that I posted a "private" message is wrong, think again, that "john smith" probably have sent that same email to many many people already. I am just saving his time, so he doesn't have to do the tedious of work, and send them individually.

I am sure that he is glad even though he is pretending that he is "mad."

futrphysician
06-22-2003, 08:25 PM
you win the "arrogant attitude Poster of the Month".

Sales job. Pipe down *******. you don't even know anyone ON this board so don't go accusing them of trying to be the next Avon Salesman. (Here's hoping you have even heard of it.)

Plain and simple Einstein, he asked you NOT to post it. You did violating his clear request. That makes you vindictive and an idiot for doing so.

Lastly, I don't want you to go to St. Chris. I wouldn't want you for a classmate.

Oh, and I was accepted to St. George's and Ross so don't go waving some sales banner with age and wear on it. I ain't buyin'. I choose for reasons beyond your limited abilities to comprehend.

none4now
06-22-2003, 09:13 PM
Preppystud,

Hey Einstein if he wanted to advertise why send PM's to 15 people when he could have targeted everybody by posting himself. Do you know how long it would take for the info to be an effective advertising tool by distributing it via PM.

Real great advertising strategy; advertise by sending PM's to 15 people and ask that the PM not be posted.


Any head trauma lately? That could explain it.

The Trifling Jester
06-22-2003, 09:30 PM
Perhaps you were unaware of the meaning behind the abbreviation "PM" - it stands for private message... the operative word here being PRIVATE. Certainly someone with such messageboard acumen (ha ha) could glean the meaning behind those words and form an appropriate response to said PM?

If you truly did believe the PM to be an advertisement (though I suspect this is merely offered as a hastily thought-up excuse after the fact) then consider this post punishment for furthering a spammers message.

That being said, I did find the PM and ensuing thread most interesting and must thank you for contributing to my night's enjoyment.

Smooches,
The Trifling Jester

QuasiMed
06-22-2003, 09:42 PM
Doctor-Patient confidentiality is a fundamental part of being a professional.
How you treat strangers gives a clue on how you'll treat patients.

Maybe he was balancing the public's need to know over an individual's plea for confidentiality. But then, the only person "named and imminent" in danger was johnsmith himself.

Here endeth the reading from DPS.

Black_Pride
06-22-2003, 10:14 PM
Yo he may be rattin peeps out,but that white woman is looking fine.She going down there with you?I'll show her the BLACKstud.word yo.

peace out

Cuando2
06-22-2003, 11:46 PM
Perhaps you were unaware of the meaning behind the abbreviation "PM" - it stands for private message... the operative word here being PRIVATE. Certainly someone with such messageboard acumen (ha ha) could glean the meaning behind those words and form an appropriate response to said PM?

If you truly did believe the PM to be an advertisement (though I suspect this is merely offered as a hastily thought-up excuse after the fact) then consider this post punishment for furthering a spammers message.

That being said, I did find the PM and ensuing thread most interesting and must thank you for contributing to my night's enjoyment.

Smooches,
The Trifling Jester

HAHAHA, this guy has been keeping me entertained since the days of the junky discussion boards which lacked enforcement and allowed for anonymous posts. Keep it up!

preppystud
06-23-2003, 03:57 PM
:lol:

Some of you are so easily fooled! The original email is definitely a sale scam by people from st. christopher. i posted the same email in the ross and auc forums. all of sudden, those people from st. christopher are rushing in to defend for their schools, etc. i didn't even have to ask them for their opinions.

bts4202
06-23-2003, 04:16 PM
preppystud,

i posted the same email in the ross and auc forums. all of sudden, those people from st. christopher are rushing in to defend for their schools, etc. i didn't even have to ask them for their opinions.

As the AUC moderators have pointed out to st chris students while making comments about our school on our forum, this forum is not exclusive to AUC and I may post my opinions wheither you ask for it or not.

I actually could care less about who says what about AUC or whiether AUC lets proffs screw students. I only started commenting when you started your ignorant comments about st chris advertising.... then I DID come to the defense of my school and my fellow classmates who I know would not do that. It seems like your only defense of AUC is to distract people's attention from the problems exposed by this letter by blaming st chris. Could it be that you are just upset that someone could value st chris (who has only been open 5 years or so) over your precious AUC? I suggest that you wait until you have AT LEAST STARTED med school before you start giving your ignorant opinions.

none4now
06-23-2003, 05:10 PM
Preppystud,

Tell us how it is an advertising scam. Not to say everything is true in the PM, but enlighten us on how this is a good way to hurt AUC rep and help St. Chris admissions when the PM would have only been seen by a few; If it was not for you! Are you sure you’re not the one trying to sell a certain school. I mean you were the one who posted the PM for everybody to see; against the authors request I might add. Your actions reached more viewers than the authors by far. Your action, by posting this PM, has done more harm than the author. So tell us.


I am not from St. Chris, actually I am set to go to Ross.


I still think you must have suffered from head trauma!!!!!!!!!!

catchsomezzzzzzz
06-23-2003, 06:11 PM
Preppydud, i mean preppystud,

You are a real moron you know that? You haven't even started medical school yet!! You haven't started AUC yet, so who in the hell are you to say wheither john smiths email is correct or not?

i posted the same email in the ross and auc forums. all of sudden, those people from st. christopher are rushing in to defend for their schools, etc. i didn't even have to ask them for their opinions.

As the AUC moderators have pointed out to st chris students while making comments about our school on our forum, this forum is not exclusive to AUC and I may post my opinions wheither you ask for it or not.

I actually could care less about who says what about AUC or whiether AUC lets proffs screw students. I only started commenting when you started your ignorant comments about st chris advertising.... then I DID come to the defense of my school and my fellow classmates who I know would not do that. It seems like your only defense of AUC is to distract people's attention from the problems exposed by this letter by blaming st chris. Could it be that you are just upset that someone could value st chris (who has only been open 5 years or so) over your precious AUC? I suggest that you wait until you have AT LEAST STARTED med school before you start giving your ignorant opinions.

Brilliant choice of words coming from:
BTS4202
President of AMSA
St. Christopher's COM
2nd Year

Lots of hypocites lately in the forums!

preppystud
06-23-2003, 07:09 PM
are you sure that you want to be a doctor?

instead of telling me suffering from head trauma, I don't think that you have the mentality to be able to succeed in Ross.

Just re-read your own message, think hard. The only school that you mentioned other that AUC and ross was St. Christopher.

the first "john smith" email listed bunch of med. schools offshore, however, only the people from St. christopher came out from nowhere and continued the discussion. And I did not even ask them for their opinions, and i didn't even post a single message in their forum.

so for your simple mind, it should be quite obvious that people from St. christopher are advertising for their own school.

Do you get it now?!

And by the way of their student president's own word, I am sure that their kinds are really so below of my standard.

Preppystud,

Tell us how it is an advertising scam. Not to say everything is true in the PM, but enlighten us on how this is a good way to hurt AUC rep and help St. Chris admissions when the PM would have only been seen by a few; If it was not for you! Are you sure you’re not the one trying to sell a certain school. I mean you were the one who posted the PM for everybody to see; against the authors request I might add. Your actions reached more viewers than the authors by far. Your action, by posting this PM, has done more harm than the author. So tell us.


I am not from St. Chris, actually I am set to go to Ross.


I still think you must have suffered from head trauma!!!!!!!!!!

IDreamOfMedicine
06-23-2003, 08:34 PM
are you sure that you want to be a doctor?

instead of telling me suffering from head trauma, I don't think that you have the mentality to be able to succeed in Ross.

Just re-read your own message, think hard. The only school that you mentioned other that AUC and ross was St. Christopher.

the first "john smith" email listed bunch of med. schools offshore, however, only the people from St. christopher came out from nowhere and continued the discussion. And I did not even ask them for their opinions, and i didn't even post a single message in their forum.

so for your simple mind, it should be quite obvious that people from St. christopher are advertising for their own school.

Do you get it now?!

And by the way of their student president's own word, I am sure that their kinds are really so below of my standard.


*sniff* *sniff* do i smell jealousy?.......

and bro don't tell others they can't be doctors when you can't keep something confidential. However, I don't think anyone should tell anyone they can't be doctors. Plus the original PM was intended for AUC and NOT Ross. So I think you should continue your discussions there. Instead of all of us pointing fingers at other schools and becoming paranoid on who sent the PM, I think we should all take our USMLE's first and get a residency position then come back and say something! This topic has now become pointless so ADMINISTRATOR pleaseeeeeeee lock this thread. It is no longer informational.

none4now
06-23-2003, 09:03 PM
This statement makes a whole lot of sense.

"Instead of telling me suffering from head trauma, I don't think that you have the mentality to be able to succeed in Ross."


It is more like "instead of telling me I am suffering from head trauma...."
Isn't there something else missing from this statement? (basic grammar, subject, object, verb) I think it is you who needs to reevaluate your ability to succeed in Ross.

Hey rocket scientist I was one of the first to reply to you and I am not from St. Chris, nor are many others who responded.

Only your distorted mind could come up with such a ridiculous and pathetic conspiracy theory.

You really need to use a grammar check program or re-take a few years of English. You make yourself look foolish.

How many negative responses do you need to read before you realize you have been branded a backstabber?

tekky
06-23-2003, 09:17 PM
Can't we all just get along?

dt
06-23-2003, 09:22 PM
agreed.

Hanson
06-23-2003, 09:54 PM
Please be nice.

Hanson

microphage
06-23-2003, 09:58 PM
Can't we all just get along?

Hey, you forgot to quote that. I'm pretty sure Rodney King already copyrighted that phrase. :lol:

MitchDC
06-24-2003, 06:22 AM
Hey guys, let's end this string of posts. They are useless and way off point. By the way, the best way for people to complain about a post is to click the button "report to moderator". It immediately notifies me of a problem. Thanks.

MitchDC

###
06-24-2003, 11:51 AM
I absolutely agree that this thread is pretty useless; however, if you look at the statistics, it is one of the most active threads on the forum. Thus, it appears that the people who bother to post here are finding some value in the thread. No one is forcing anyone to read this stuff.

The organization of posts on the forum prevents any thread from taking an inordinate share of top-level space. Thus, even if this inane conversation goes on for 1000 posts, it will only take up one top-line heading and it will not crowd out more valuable information.

I applaud MitchDC for not locking this thread because locking is a form of censorship. It seems to me that the the best approach is to deal with individual posters who violate the valueMD guidelines rather than to stop an active thread. The thread will eventually become inactive and then sink off the screen. In my view, it is better to let it die a natural death (which will happen quickly) rather than to impose your own standards regarding the value of a thread.

And, the thread has had some value -- it has established a community norm regarding the handling of PMs.

Ganja Magic
06-24-2003, 12:05 PM
:D

True, this thread is quite popular - but it has more to do with bashing preppy than anything else. The content of the original post has nothing to do with most people on these boards, other than to inflame AUC students.

By the way, prep, you got to take your photo off, man - its hurting my eyes and my ensuing hysterical laughter is bothering other people in the lab. :oops:

felixthecatheathcliffgarf
06-24-2003, 12:13 PM
loose association.

oh yeah, also i dont like your picture either, preppy. it reminds me of a stage 4 decubitus ulcer. good thing smells can't be sensed here. :D

Jeffk13057
06-24-2003, 04:37 PM
I still can't get over the "leave the white woman" line.

I would hate to be that woman with all the preppy bashing...if I were her I'd be hiding under a rock :oops:

preppystud
06-24-2003, 06:10 PM
why is it so hard to understand that it is an active scam? :shock:

The Trifling Jester
06-24-2003, 09:40 PM
why is it so hard to understand that it is an active scam? :shock:

Truly you live a charmed existence, for Zen Master Jester feels moved to aid your comprehension of the incredibly simple.

Young grasshopper, place your unenlightened soul in the shoes of a medical school advertising executive; would an anonymous message to a mere 15 internet personalities further your cause? Would replying to posts on an messageboard be a prudent use of your time?

Please, my child, concentrate all your mental faculties on the rudimentary knowledge to which you have been so generously bequeathed and surely you, too, shall reach the first pedestal of enlightenment.

So sayeth Zen Master Jester.

anencephalic
06-24-2003, 10:19 PM
...So Sayeth The Flock! :twisted:

Sorry, couldn't resist!

Aloha,

dt
06-24-2003, 10:35 PM
young grasshopper?!? That was many moons ago...

QuasiMed
06-24-2003, 10:39 PM
So sayeth the shepherd,

...So Sayeth The Flock!


-fellow Porky's Fan

Cuando2
06-25-2003, 12:25 AM
told you that guy is funny. it must be the uniqueness that does it...never before have I ever seen the saluation "smooches."

john_smith_532
06-25-2003, 03:47 AM
preppystud,

if i had contacted you with something like:

"lobotomy prices are at an all time low! act now and you can enjoy a peaceful existence of drooling instead of pissing people off every time you open your mouth. please pm back your credit card details and we can begin preparations for your procedure."

then you would have a point saying that it was advertising. but one important point that you left out of your discussion is why i "advertised" so heavily for us schools ahead of every single foreign school. maybe i'm a part time employee of all 200 or so us schools, sgu, saba, st christopher's, universidad autonoma de guadalajara, and ross (you better watch out when you get here because i'll call you down to my office and spank you like the naughty little boy you are... and then expel you).

preppystud
06-25-2003, 11:31 AM
It is shocking to see that so many of you are so naive! :shock:

Suppose that someone doesn't like to live in dominica, so s/he wrote random complaining emails to random people. That is totally understanble. Now wouldn't it be very odd if s/he also gives you a list of countries that s/he thinks are better places to live :?:

So far, none of you has explained to me why you think that giving out a list is appropriate with john smith's original email?

felixthecatheathcliffgarf
06-25-2003, 11:40 AM
no one cares, maybe? just maybe.

zebramaster
06-25-2003, 12:18 PM
What a cute couple

futrphysician
06-25-2003, 12:28 PM
So far, none of you has explained to me why you think that giving out a list is appropriate with john smith's original email?

Hey Einstein, maybe because we thought it incidental to his argument and discussion. Did you send in for that leukotomy yet? :shock:

I guess "Logic" wasn't one of your best courses in college huh?

The Trifling Jester
06-25-2003, 02:00 PM
It is shocking to see that so many of you are so naive! :shock:

Suppose that someone doesn't like to live in dominica, so s/he wrote random complaining emails to random people. That is totally understanble. Now wouldn't it be very odd if s/he also gives you a list of countries that s/he thinks are better places to live :?:

So far, none of you has explained to me why you think that giving out a list is appropriate with john smith's original email?

The unenlightened listen, but do not hear.

Futile have been the attempts by both flock and shepherd to communicate with the one whose sagacity is as the hyena who feasts upon the carcass of yersinia-laced vermin. However, despite the predictable nature of another such exercise, the Zen Master shall endeavor to enlighten you once more - truly, the grasshopper's fortunes has been graced by one of the many hands of Buddha himself.

Would a medical school advertising executive promote a list of other competing schools in addition to his own employer? Does the grasshopper suggest that the advertising agency has hatched a nefarious plot to advocate all other Carribean medical schools that are in competition with Ross? Surely a more beneficial marketing strategy would limit itself to promoting only one school.

No, the email was most certainly not a spam advertising message.

Hark! The Zen Master hath spoken!

Cease your talk of this PM and it shall be as though it had never been received. Rest easy my child, for if you follow the advice contained in the preceeding pearl of wisdom this troublesome PM shall worry you no more.

Now I have soiled my hands to help you achieve enlightenment, thus laboring excessively for the day.

Go forth, and sin no more.

Zen Master Jester

preppystud
06-25-2003, 02:16 PM
What a cute couple

yea, zebramaster, are you trying to book a date with me in advance?

MitchDC
06-26-2003, 09:47 PM
Once again I'd like to remind users that this forum has been established for the professional exchange of information concerning medicine and more specifically Ross University School of Medicine. This post has outlived any use and will therefore be locked to all future comment. I was hoping to not have to step in here, but again those involved have proven that they are not ready to be on their own.

Thank you all for getting back on track and for your continued participation in a professional and respectful manner.

Warmest Regards,

MitchDC