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Surge
03-16-2005, 10:23 PM
I'm thinking of applying to SMU but I'm a little worried about the prospects of getting a residency and especially any future licensing problems since the school has now been placed on the California unapproved med school listing.
I personally don't think SMU belongs on that list since the schools on the list are very shady outfits from what I've read and SMU is a legit med school. It seems that SMU was much better off if it had never sought CA approval since it wouldn't now have to deal with being on that list and being lumped in with those other shady schools.
Can anyone give me some advice on how this situation may play out in the future? It's hard enough coming from an offshore school so I can only imagine how much more difficult it would be coming from a school that is officially unapproved by a major U.S. state.
JTP73
03-16-2005, 10:27 PM
Maybe it would be beneficial to call your prospective state's board and ask them what they think. Anyone have any thoughts on this matter?
Surge
03-16-2005, 10:38 PM
If SMU remains on the unapproved CA listing is it still possible to get a residency in other states?
From what I've heard and read the other schools on that list are/were scams or diploma mills so it is unfortunate that a legit school like SMU is now associated with them by appearing on the listing.
mo5225md
03-16-2005, 10:42 PM
if you are like me and work on the east coast, smu is good for ny, nj and pa...the tri-state area. It is, however, a shame that SMU is on that list. Let's just hope and pray that they don't stay there very long
Surge
03-16-2005, 10:50 PM
Does every med school that applies for CA approval and not get it automatically appear on that list for ever? Because if that is the case then I presume a lot of Caribbean schools will now be very hesitant to apply for CA approval.
I wonder if the other schools on that list applied for CA approval and got turned down or were they put on that list simply because of their shady practices.
billydoc
03-16-2005, 11:00 PM
While nobody knows for sure what the future holds for all IMG graduates, based on past experiences you will not be affected in most States.What's done is done and cannot be reversed. If SMU had never applied for Cali how would they have known if they can get it or not? The gutless Left Coast "Dream Team" sure showed their true collors by kicking a"guy who is down". Common folks: only 7 years in the making, comming out of the devastating blow of Ivan, recolated everybody safely, and continued operations. I wounder if Hollywood elitists noticed any of that? It really hurts to be associated with many other schools who have gotten on this Cali's exriment list (for a lack of a better term) for just reasons.
One thing is good for sure. SMU did the right thing by sticking it back to them, because both sides of the story are now matter of public knowledge.
It's a very political thing. I don't want to put fingers at anyone, but it's obvious to all other schools in the region, that once St Matts gets Cali and all of these other "don't think for yourself" States, it'll blow the doors off its competition in the matter of days. But Thank God most States in the Union have got enough brain power to figure out for themselves, and don't depend on a couple of stooges telling them what to do.
Anyways, it's only one man opinion! what's yours? :twisted:
Donno70
03-17-2005, 12:21 AM
Anyways, it's only one man opinion! what's yours? :twisted:
It seems to me that certain individuals among the MBC are just arrogant, power-hungry, tactless tyrants with a gross lack of integrity and a disregard for diplomacy. OK, allow me to elaborate: %*&%*@&$(&^@Q$%(&^@Q#$^%@Q&$%)%@Q!!! That's enough of this subject once again, I'm already overheating.
billydoc
03-17-2005, 12:57 AM
Does anybody know what's the deal for SMU draduates who want to practice in Arizona and/ or Nevada?
Thanks
robertvardaman
03-17-2005, 01:24 AM
Im thinking of applying for the September 2005 term and I was curious if there were any states in the south that have approved SMU. I see that you guys have been talking about CA, does that mean that the rest of the nation will begin to dis-credit SMU? I am also aware that the home office is near Orlando so I assume that FL accredits SMU? Any info would be great.
SMU_Information
03-17-2005, 08:59 AM
We are approved by the State of New York, which means that you can do unlimited clinical rotations, gain residency, and be licensed there. We have a regular license from the state of Florida, which means the same as NY (althoughthe license in FL primarily deals with clinical rotations). The only East Coast state that has an approval process that we have not been approved by is New Jersey. Their review team has the power to grant foregin schools the right to do clinical rotations, but the board was disbanded about twenty years ago and never reformed. So there is no one to apply to. However, you may still do your residency and be licensed in NJ as an SMU grad.
benjie
03-17-2005, 11:39 AM
I understand why SMU is trying to get CA approval--so that some of the other states will follow along. I agree with billydoc about the gutless CA wackoes!! Screw the Hollywood elitists and their affiliates...that's why I am going to practice in the Southeast!
ASIANDOC
03-17-2005, 11:57 AM
I was strongly support all schools that required to have CA site visit to apply and I give SMU credits for that,after I saw SMU name on a very short list with 6-7 schools from the entire world with half of them closed and the remaining are going downhill 180 miles an hour,I think other schools should not apply because that is disasterous list ,very unfair and unjust for school like SMU to be on it, Its better for schools like St james,st chris,or st something to say we do not believe in CA system and never apply than to be on such black list lable us as banned doctors in California [yes other unapproved grads from never applied schools will not be able to practice but they are not disapproved,they are never inspected and not on this list and is viewed by directors].
I believe SMU will have stronger reasons now to vigorously seek CA no matter what ,just to get out of this list isolating itself from other schools some with very bad reputation with state boards.
Again that is very unfair and sad to target hard working good doctors and ignore hundreds others from third world underdeveloped countries with automatic approvals and reject some on the basis of school of graduation [protecting the public starts by inspections of all and not only targeting few schools that import grads to CA and starting with non English programs because #1 cause of medical errors : miscommunications.].
teratos
03-17-2005, 12:01 PM
Even CA says SMU will likely continue to improve as time goes on. Says it in the report. SMU has appealed some of the findings as inaccurate. I think that next time around, they'll get it. I have had the pleasure of working with a few SMU students, and we have one SMU grad in our surgical residency, and think they have all been pretty good. G
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