St. Matthew's versus Sint Eustatius

[Surge]

I apologize if this topic has been brought up before but I would appreciate advice on the pros and cons of attending one of these schools over the other.

I'd like to know if graduates from one of the schools can be licensed in more states that grads from the other. Also which school has better clinical training during 3rd year.

I would also appreciate talking to a clinical student at SMU or a recent grad. Please PM me if you wouldn't mind having a chat. Thanks for the help!

[skc569]

I can't comment about the school but what I can tell you is that the island is horrible. I've been on the island and I could hardly live through my six hour visit. Some people do it and I guess what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. The campus was spread out through the island so you have to hike from building to building. I would go there only if it was the only option. They don't even have water, it's rain water that gets collected and then comes out through the pipes. The bathrooms have signs saying if it's yellow, it's mellow=no flushing!! I give Statia students credit for living through it. Good Luck

[wolfvgang22]

St. Eustatius vs. SMU...a good head to head comparison?

[LqdPls]

Well St. Eustatius forum is reporting 3 residency matches

[SMU_Information]

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[Junito]

St. Eustatius vs. SMU...a good head to head comparison?

I think not! Are you trying to ruffle some feathers again?

Juni

[MDTOB]

St. Eustatius vs. SMU...a good head to head comparison?

A good head to head comparison??? Are you serious?

Sint Eust. doesn't even have NY!

Do your research, then we'll talk!

[Junito]

St. Eustatius vs. SMU...a good head to head comparison?

Nah, I think Wolfvgang is smoking that green stuff. Dude, take your trolling to another forum. Stick to what you know, and stop stirring the pot.

Juni

[Siddman]

St. Eustatius vs. SMU...a good head to head comparison?


I totally agree and i am not smoking that green stuff.....i wonder if it did any brain damage........ :lol: :lol:


Siddman

[LqdPls]

St. Eustatius vs. SMU...a good head to head comparison?


I totally agree and i am not smoking that green stuff.....i wonder if it did any brain damage........ :lol: :lol:


Siddman

Apparently it did

[MDhero]

St. Eustatius vs. SMU...a good head to head comparison?


I totally agree and i am not smoking that green stuff.....i wonder if it did any brain damage........ :lol: :lol:


Siddman

i dont think youre a good source on this subject since you never been to either st. eustatius or st matthews, enjoy the green stuff! :lol:

[Junito]

What's up with these Sabatites? They keep coming to our forum to talk trash about SMU. I guess they are projecting their own insecurities about their own school. I guess I'll start giving them a taste of their own medicine and take it to their forum. Time to troll Saba.

Juni

[wolfvgang22]

Whoa, there! Seems like I put a burr under some saddles! Feeling a little threatened? :lol:

Show me where I put SMU down in my above post, or bragged about Saba. I did neither. What I actually meant was to question whether it is warranted to compare a non-NY school vs. a NY approved school, but since you are taking it so badly, how about this:

I think it's a legitimate question to ask if St. Eustatius vs. SMU is a good head to head comparison. Why not? People are always debating SGU vs. Ross vs. Saba vs. AUC. Why not do the same with the non-CA approved schools?
Tell me how asking the question is "trolling". Is it because I don't automatically concede that "SMU is the best!"? Maybe the ganja weed is making you paranoid...maybe all posts that aren't decidedly pro-SMU should be censored? :lol:

One good point I've read so far is that St. Eustatius doesn't have NY approval and SMU does. The other is that living conditions are supposed to be better on Grand Cayman than on St. Eustatius, though GC is reported to be more expensive post-hurricane. I think St. Eustatius has a better student-teacher ratio.

Happy "International Cuddly Kitten Day"! :D


p.s.- Never touched the green stuff, and never will, baby. 8)

[ol' man]

What's up with these Sabatites? They keep coming to our forum to talk trash about SMU. I guess they are projecting their own insecurities about their own school. I guess I'll start giving them a taste of their own medicine and take it to their forum. Time to troll Saba.

Juni

They gotta have something to do. A donkey knocked out their phone system by sitting on the phone wires.

[Siddman]

What's up with these Sabatites? They keep coming to our forum to talk trash about SMU. I guess they are projecting their own insecurities about their own school. I guess I'll start giving them a taste of their own medicine and take it to their forum. Time to troll Saba.

Juni


I think you need some Prozac ........




I think it's a legitimate question to ask if St. Eustatius vs. SMU is a good head to head comparison. Why not? People are always debating SGU vs. Ross vs. Saba vs. AUC. Why not do the same with the non-CA approved schools?

One good point I've read so far is that St. Eustatius doesn't have NY approval and SMU does. The other is that living conditions are supposed to be better on Grand Cayman than on St. Eustatius, though GC is reported to be more expensive post-hurricane. I think St. Eustatius has a better student-teacher ratio.


I totally agree with that..........


They gotta have something to do. A donkey knocked out their phone system by sitting on the phone wires.


Hey ol man old budy how is it going? Yah that donkey thingy still gets me a good laugh.......... :lol: :lol:


ANd there is nothing wrong with smoking ganja .....weed.....
:lol: :lol: :lol:


Siddman

[woodbridgesp]

can people please post something relevent here...........i got into both of these schools and want to decide which one is a better choice. i like the clinical sites of eustatius. somebody please list pros/cons of each school.

[Siddman]

can people please post something relevent here...........i got into both of these schools and want to decide which one is a better choice. i like the clinical sites of eustatius. somebody please list pros/cons of each school.


Go for SMU.....


Siddman

[Donno70]

St. Eustatius vs. SMU...a good head to head comparison?

In Wolf-G's defense, I don't think he was trashing SMU. I'm going here and I didn't take it that way. I think what he meant was it wasn't a good comparison, to SMU's credit (not that it's of any consequence). Just my take on it.

Alternatively, it's a free country (world), but why spend your time in another school's forum? As witnessed, it usually leads to contention.

LASTLY WOODBRIDGE, TO ANSWER THE ACTUAL QUESTION ON TOPIC: CHOOSE SMU!

DM

[Junito]

Whoa, there! Seems like I put a burr under some saddles! Feeling a little threatened? :lol:

Show me where I put SMU down in my above post, or bragged about Saba. I did neither. What I actually meant was to question whether it is warranted to compare a non-NY school vs. a NY approved school, but since you are taking it so badly, how about this:

I think it's a legitimate question to ask if St. Eustatius vs. SMU is a good head to head comparison. Why not? People are always debating SGU vs. Ross vs. Saba vs. AUC. Why not do the same with the non-CA approved schools?
Tell me how asking the question is "trolling". Is it because I don't automatically concede that "SMU is the best!"? Maybe the ganja weed is making you paranoid...maybe all posts that aren't decidedly pro-SMU should be censored? :lol:

One good point I've read so far is that St. Eustatius doesn't have NY approval and SMU does. The other is that living conditions are supposed to be better on Grand Cayman than on St. Eustatius, though GC is reported to be more expensive post-hurricane. I think St. Eustatius has a better student-teacher ratio.

Happy "International Cuddly Kitten Day"! :D


p.s.- Never touched the green stuff, and never will, baby. 8)

Dude,
You just proved my point. Get a life, you keep throwing the cali issue whenever you can. Just because cali disapproved SMU doesn't mean it is not a good school. I recall other Carib schools not getting approval at first. Look what happened to Ross with Texas...eventually Ross was able to get approved in Texas. I see the same with SMU.

Your posts are trivial, and I see through your seemingly "innocent" intents. You can't compare St. E with SMU, for SMU has NY approval, St. E does not. Plus we have the MD/MHSA program. You must be really riding "HIGH" on the idea that Saba is the best bet in the Caribbean. Come on, so you guys got Cali, good for you. You guys still don't have staffords, don't have as much recognition (# of graduates) as Ross or SGU. We are in the same boat. Get off your high horse.

If you are going to post, try to be positive. I tried sending you a PM offering an olive branch, but I realize you are a charlatan. You try to stir strife between the schools. I seen your previous posts where you actually say "Saba is better than SMU...". I have no insecurities about SMU, my gripe is with trolls like yourself and the other sabatites who come to our forum in order to trash our school. Notice we are not trashing St. E. Yet when the opportunity presents itself you guys talk trash about our school. Get a life, Get a job, get jesus.

Juni

[Junito]

can people please post something relevent here...........i got into both of these schools and want to decide which one is a better choice. i like the clinical sites of eustatius. somebody please list pros/cons of each school.

If you have a sincere desire to find relevant info about St. E or SMU, then find a student that has attended both schools. Otherwise this thread will be useless. You can expect SMU students to be biased, as would any other student would be about the school they attend. These types of post are counterproductive and tend to stir strife among other schools (as I can testify). If you like, PM your email, and I will pass it along to a girl in my class who attended both schools and is most qualified to answer your questions.

Juni

[Siddman]

Dude,
You just proved my point. Get a life, you keep throwing the cali issue whenever you can. Just because cali disapproved SMU doesn't mean it is not a good school. I recall other Carib schools not getting approval at first. Look what happened to Ross with Texas...eventually Ross was able to get approved in Texas. I see the same with SMU.

Your posts are trivial, and I see through your seemingly "innocent" intents. You can't compare St. E with SMU, for SMU has NY approval, St. E does not. Plus we have the MD/MHSA program. You must be really riding "HIGH" on the idea that Saba is the best bet in the Caribbean. Come on, so you guys got Cali, good for you. You guys still don't have staffords, don't have as much recognition (# of graduates) as Ross or SGU. We are in the same boat. Get off your high horse.

If you are going to post, try to be positive. I tried sending you a PM offering an olive branch, but I realize you are a charlatan. You try to stir strife between the schools. I seen your previous posts where you actually say "Saba is better than SMU...". I have no insecurities about SMU, my gripe is with trolls like yourself and the other sabatites who come to our forum in order to trash our school. Notice we are not trashing St. E. Yet when the opportunity presents itself you guys talk trash about our school. Get a life, Get a job, get jesus.

Juni


Hey man cool down yooo.....so you want me to say you are right....okey ......i agree with you but i still think you need prozac.....just to be on the safe side.......to calm the nerves......etc......:lol: :lol: :lol:

Peace,

Siddman

[wolfvgang22]

Dude,
You just proved my point. Get a life, you keep throwing the cali issue whenever you can. Just because cali disapproved SMU doesn't mean it is not a good school. I recall other Carib schools not getting approval at first. Look what happened to Ross with Texas...eventually Ross was able to get approved in Texas. I see the same with SMU.

Your posts are trivial, and I see through your seemingly "innocent" intents. You can't compare St. E with SMU, for SMU has NY approval, St. E does not. Plus we have the MD/MHSA program. You must be really riding "HIGH" on the idea that Saba is the best bet in the Caribbean. Come on, so you guys got Cali, good for you. You guys still don't have staffords, don't have as much recognition (# of graduates) as Ross or SGU. We are in the same boat. Get off your high horse.

If you are going to post, try to be positive. I tried sending you a PM offering an olive branch, but I realize you are a charlatan. You try to stir strife between the schools. I seen your previous posts where you actually say "Saba is better than SMU...". I have no insecurities about SMU, my gripe is with trolls like yourself and the other sabatites who come to our forum in order to trash our school. Notice we are not trashing St. E. Yet when the opportunity presents itself you guys talk trash about our school. Get a life, Get a job, get jesus.

JuniI have a life, have a good job that gives me mobile high speed internet access, and probably know Jesus at least as well as you do, friend. 8)

I admit I don't know a whole lot about St. Eustatius. I'm guessing you don't either, since you'd rather vent your anger at SMU's CA issues towards me rather than answer the questions.
What happens to one caribbean med school affects the entire caribbean med school community. Do I think Saba is "better than SMU"...yes, for me it is. That's my bias, I'm sure you understand. Do I hate SMU? By no means; I would have applied there myself had things worked out differently.

p.s.-- Sending insults via PM is not considered "an olive branch" in Texas. Maybe it is in your neck of the woods? :lol:

Happy Easter, say Hi to Peter Cottontail for me!

[ol' man]

I have a life, have a good job that gives me mobile high speed internet access, and probably know Jesus at least as well as you do, friend.

Not on Saba yet, eh? High speed internet there is about 28kb when everyone is online.

Speaking of Jesus, I could not begin to question whether you know him or not. My hope is that you do (of course my hope would be that everyone does).

Didn't mean to turn into a preacher here. Guess its just the Mississippian in me.

[wolfvgang22]

Thanks ol'man, I appreciate that. Have a great day! :)

[LqdPls]

I think that this silly discussion is the result of some type of an inferiority complex that some of us have developed as a result of being rejected by US medical schools. I think many people on this forum who are either attending or were accepted by Caribbean medical schools that are "fully accredited by all 50 states" would like to believe that they were all meticulously and carefully selected by the admissions committee out of a pool containing thousands of applicants. Furthermore, the same group of students would like to believe that they are all somehow better, smarter, maybe even better looking than "those other people" who attend "those other medical schools".

What is even more amusing is when you follow the trend of some of the valueMD members who initially join by being friendly, humble, inquisitive, and curious, but as soon as they are accepted to a medical school that is "fully accredited by all 50 states" their attitude suddenly changes. They become experts on a range of topics, discussing boldly such issue as the quality of medical education across the Caribbean, what it means to be approved by the state of California, and how only "the good schools" receive such a privelage, and the best is when you read advice or rules by other students which determine who belongs and who doesnt belong in medical school, or who will be a good physician and who will not.

A recent post on the SGU forum decribes how some students are surprised :shock: by the dramatic drop in the admission standards. At one time, when the grass was greener, back in the year 2001 fine students with GPA of 3.3 and 26 MCAT were once the rule, now in the year 2004, 3 long years later the standards have dropped, making way for all those slackers with their 3.2 and 24 MCAT. One student thought that only Ross accepts those marginal people, you know those kids who didnt guess correctly on 2 more questions and therefore received a lower MCAT score, man I wonder how they'll do on the USMLE :( . Anyway, I feel like there is alot of negative energy on valueMD, many direct and subtle posts with the intention to undermine and discredit the integrity of not only some of the medical schools represented, but worst of all many of the students who are doing their best to fulfill a dream using the best means, options, and opportunities available to them.

[Siddman]

I think that this silly discussion is the result of some type of an inferiority complex that some of us have developed as a result of being rejected by US medical schools.


Now that is funny.............but true...... :lol: :lol: ...keep up the good work LqdPls.............Mr. Inferior...... :lol: :lol:

What is even more amusing is when you follow the trend of some of the valueMD members who initially join by being friendly, humble, inquisitive, and curious, but as soon as they are accepted to a medical school that is "fully accredited by all 50 states" their attitude suddenly changes. They become experts on a range of topics, discussing boldly such issue as the quality of medical education across the Caribbean, what it means to be approved by the state of California, and how only "the good schools" receive such a privelage, and the best is when you read advice or rules by other students which determine who belongs and who doesnt belong in medical school, or who will be a good physician and who will not.

True....but when people gain knowledge ....they usaully gain confidence too...i don't know about you.......... :lol: :lol:

Anyway, I feel like there is alot of negative energy on valueMD, many direct and subtle posts with the intention to undermine and discredit the integrity of not only some of the medical schools represented, but worst of all many of the students who are doing their best to fulfill a dream using the best means, options, and opportunities available to them.

Totally agree with that.....but that is how you learn to overcome all the stress.....you need that man....medical school and being a doctor is stressfull.....you better learn how to handle that from now..... :lol: :lol:

Hope this sets you straight,

Siddman

[LqdPls]

The difficult part is trying to decide between the knowledgeable and the one who thinks they are knowlegeable.

[sweetpea]

I absolutely agree with you LqdPls.
Juni, thanks for all the advise given on this website. Trust me, you do not need prozac. Depression is a serious subject matter and jokingly telling you that you need a antidepressant for a anxiety disorder is not funny.

[AUCMD2006]

"jokingly telling you that you need a antidepressant for a anxiety disorder is not funny"


yes it is

[sweetpea]

"jokingly telling you that you need a antidepressant for a anxiety disorder is not funny"


yes it is

:evil:

[DocShopping]

Whoa, there! Seems like I put a burr under some saddles! Feeling a little threatened? :lol:

Show me where I put SMU down in my above post, or bragged about Saba. I did neither. What I actually meant was to question whether it is warranted to compare a non-NY school vs. a NY approved school, but since you are taking it so badly, how about this:

I think it's a legitimate question to ask if St. Eustatius vs. SMU is a good head to head comparison. Why not? People are always debating SGU vs. Ross vs. Saba vs. AUC. Why not do the same with the non-CA approved schools?
Tell me how asking the question is "trolling". Is it because I don't automatically concede that "SMU is the best!"? Maybe the ganja weed is making you paranoid...maybe all posts that aren't decidedly pro-SMU should be censored? :lol:

One good point I've read so far is that St. Eustatius doesn't have NY approval and SMU does. The other is that living conditions are supposed to be better on Grand Cayman than on St. Eustatius, though GC is reported to be more expensive post-hurricane. I think St. Eustatius has a better student-teacher ratio.

Happy "International Cuddly Kitten Day"! :D


p.s.- Never touched the green stuff, and never will, baby. 8)



1: SMU Vs. St Eustatius = SMU By Far, not even on the same level.

2: Saba shouldnt even be muttered in the same sentence w/ SGU, Ross, or AUC. Saba is definantly an outlier in that sentence.

3. SMU vs Saba = SMU hands down.

[Siddman]

I absolutely agree with you LqdPls.
Juni, thanks for all the advise given on this website. Trust me, you do not need prozac. Depression is a serious subject matter and jokingly telling you that you need a antidepressant for a anxiety disorder is not funny.

Are you trying to say Juni711 has anxiety disorder.....dude...i think you need Paxil for sure....if not for anxiety then for panic disorder for sure.......where in the world you decided by reading that Juni711 has anxiety disorder......now that is funny...i can't stop laughing......may be i need Lorazepam...to relax my self....or good weed will do.... .. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Siddman

[sweetpea]

Dude,
You just proved my point. Get a life, you keep throwing the cali issue whenever you can. Just because cali disapproved SMU doesn't mean it is not a good school. I recall other Carib schools not getting approval at first. Look what happened to Ross with Texas...eventually Ross was able to get approved in Texas. I see the same with SMU.

Your posts are trivial, and I see through your seemingly "innocent" intents. You can't compare St. E with SMU, for SMU has NY approval, St. E does not. Plus we have the MD/MHSA program. You must be really riding "HIGH" on the idea that Saba is the best bet in the Caribbean. Come on, so you guys got Cali, good for you. You guys still don't have staffords, don't have as much recognition (# of graduates) as Ross or SGU. We are in the same boat. Get off your high horse.

If you are going to post, try to be positive. I tried sending you a PM offering an olive branch, but I realize you are a charlatan. You try to stir strife between the schools. I seen your previous posts where you actually say "Saba is better than SMU...". I have no insecurities about SMU, my gripe is with trolls like yourself and the other sabatites who come to our forum in order to trash our school. Notice we are not trashing St. E. Yet when the opportunity presents itself you guys talk trash about our school. Get a life, Get a job, get jesus.

Juni


Hey man cool down yooo.....so you want me to say you are right....okey ......i agree with you but i still think you need prozac.....just to be on the safe side.......to calm the nerves......etc......:lol: :lol: :lol:

Peace,

Siddman

Siddman
LOL, I'm laughing at how easily it is for you to forget that you said that he needed prozac :oops: :shock: Oops! How easily we forget :D What kind of doctor will you be if you can't remember what you've said :P YOU ARE very SMART!! LOL READ IT A WEEP!!! How about this. Let me school you. Prozac is a prescription drug that is used for the treatment of depression. Prozac is used to treat psychological disorders- anxiety disorders. ¿usted entiende? If you have no idea what you are talking about...study more. How are you going to tell JUNI that he needs to take prozac when you don't even know what you are talking about. LOL. Why don't I give YOU some prescription drugs. How about some Numovil and loss memory zoloft for your problem(S)...YOU ARE A CHARACTER. :P 8) :lol: :o :D :shock: I can't contain myself. LOL

[opnr2k2]

Its seems the longer this thread continues the more brain cells are being forced to walk the plank. :roll:

[Optimus]

Both schools are good, and each has its own strenght, the question is which school edges out the other. In this case it is SMU, and here are a few points to consider.

SMU has obtained NY, that is an important achievement considering the age of the school, and the fact NY is very tough to get considering all their stringent rules. It shows that SMU has the competence to meet their guidelines a huge plus. Statia has yet to do so, despite having a board of directors in NYC, this is not to discredit them at the same time only that they have not been as effective procuring NY.

SMU as far has better amenities, by far, as per its building and location on Grand Cayman. Which also give SMU a wealth of potential considering how well developed the island is and the fact that it is well known. Statia is a crappy island, thats a fact. Locals try to rip you off, the cops try all sorts of stupid stunts with you. If statia moved to a better Island, it would fare much better.

However, with those points stated, SMU still has a long way to go. They need to improve on the quality of student they bring in. They need to have a minimum grade average that students have to maintain. And that is where is Statia is better, the students are tougher, and the course work is much more rigourous. SMU needs to note of that. In a sense they have since bringing in the SHELF exams, however they need to have a stricter policy of booting students who just are not making the cut. They need to invest in a better wet lab (anatomy and path). And yes they need to have a black Monday, where students have all their exams in a one day blitz, just like statia and saba, simply b/c it helps to train your brain for the big bad STEP 1.

And thats that. I dont mean to offend anyone but Im calling like see it. Your more then welcome to disagree.

[Siddman]

Dude,
You just proved my point. Get a life, you keep throwing the cali issue whenever you can. Just because cali disapproved SMU doesn't mean it is not a good school. I recall other Carib schools not getting approval at first. Look what happened to Ross with Texas...eventually Ross was able to get approved in Texas. I see the same with SMU.

Your posts are trivial, and I see through your seemingly "innocent" intents. You can't compare St. E with SMU, for SMU has NY approval, St. E does not. Plus we have the MD/MHSA program. You must be really riding "HIGH" on the idea that Saba is the best bet in the Caribbean. Come on, so you guys got Cali, good for you. You guys still don't have staffords, don't have as much recognition (# of graduates) as Ross or SGU. We are in the same boat. Get off your high horse.

If you are going to post, try to be positive. I tried sending you a PM offering an olive branch, but I realize you are a charlatan. You try to stir strife between the schools. I seen your previous posts where you actually say "Saba is better than SMU...". I have no insecurities about SMU, my gripe is with trolls like yourself and the other sabatites who come to our forum in order to trash our school. Notice we are not trashing St. E. Yet when the opportunity presents itself you guys talk trash about our school. Get a life, Get a job, get jesus.

Juni


Hey man cool down yooo.....so you want me to say you are right....okey ......i agree with you but i still think you need prozac.....just to be on the safe side.......to calm the nerves......etc......:lol: :lol: :lol:

Peace,

Siddman

Siddman
LOL, I'm laughing at how easily it is for you to forget that you said that he needed prozac :oops: :shock: Oops! How easily we forget :D What kind of doctor will you be if you can't remember what you've said :P YOU ARE very SMART!! LOL READ IT A WEEP!!! How about this. Let me school you. Prozac is a prescription drug that is used for the treatment of depression. Prozac is used to treat psychological disorders- anxiety disorders. ¿usted entiende? If you have no idea what you are talking about...study more. How are you going to tell JUNI that he needs to take prozac when you don't even know what you are talking about. LOL. Why don't I give YOU some prescription drugs. How about some Numovil and loss memory zoloft for your problem(S)...YOU ARE A CHARACTER. :P 8) :lol: :o :D :shock: I can't contain myself. LOL


Laugh your head off man..... :lol: :lol: ...i mean't anti-psychotic ...how in the hell did you think i was talking about anxiety or depression ..unless you know Juni personally........didn't say nothing about anxiety or depression.... :lol: :lol: ..and as per knowing your stuff....i think its better to understand things first...you lack that my friend...read the post again and try to understand the situation before you make false conclusions.... 8) ..but as per having a panic attack you should still consider Paxil.....lol... :lol: :lol:


Siddman

[LqdPls]

Optimus, are you an SMU student? and if you are, how do you stack up in comparison to the other students at SMU?

[DocShopping]

Both schools are good, and each has its own strenght, the question is which school edges out the other. In this case it is SMU, and here are a few points to consider.

SMU has obtained NY, that is an important achievement considering the age of the school, and the fact NY is very tough to get considering all their stringent rules. It shows that SMU has the competence to meet their guidelines a huge plus. Statia has yet to do so, despite having a board of directors in NYC, this is not to discredit them at the same time only that they have not been as effective procuring NY.

SMU as far has better amenities, by far, as per its building and location on Grand Cayman. Which also give SMU a wealth of potential considering how well developed the island is and the fact that it is well known. Statia is a crappy island, thats a fact. Locals try to rip you off, the cops try all sorts of stupid stunts with you. If statia moved to a better Island, it would fare much better.

However, with those points stated, SMU still has a long way to go. They need to improve on the quality of student they bring in. They need to have a minimum grade average that students have to maintain. And that is where is Statia is better, the students are tougher, and the course work is much more rigourous. SMU needs to note of that. In a sense they have since bringing in the SHELF exams, however they need to have a stricter policy of booting students who just are not making the cut. They need to invest in a better wet lab (anatomy and path). And yes they need to have a black Monday, where students have all their exams in a one day blitz, just like statia and saba, simply b/c it helps to train your brain for the big bad STEP 1.

And thats that. I dont mean to offend anyone but Im calling like see it. Your more then welcome to disagree.


First and foremost, SMU and Statia students are ALIKE. One's not tougher than the next. Thats a pretty lame gesture to say that the island makes the doctor. Then you might as well say that the Windham students are better prepared than the Cayman students. You have your bright students in each campus, regardless of surroundings.

1.5 I have friends at Statia (St Eustatius), and they shouldve passed USMLE a while ago, yet theyre still taking review courses all across the country because they just havent passed it yet. In comparison to many SMU students I know who have passed Step 1 within 4 months of their fifth semester. And my friends from Statia tell me that theyre part of the majority (not the minority) of Statia students who feel that they arent prepared to take Step 1 until at LEAST a couple semesters (and $$$$$ on reviews and time as well) after they finish their 5th.


Secondly, black mondays are useless.
Having tons of material to study from, and just a small, tiny portion being tested is by no way a good way to prepare for USMLE. If anything, it'd be better to have full exams on each subject every week. Not just one exam with an X amount of Questions (usually small amount of questions in proportion to how much you actually studied). Thats similar to Ross's minis.
3rd, Pathology doesnt need a wet lab. Not at all. If anything, they need a day of powerpoint histological reviews, not actually microscopy or gross specimens. On USMLE theyre not gonna throw a chunk of a kidney at you and have you locate the Wilm's tumour. Doesnt make any sense.
Images yeah, actual wet lab no.

[Junito]

I absolutely agree with you LqdPls.
Juni, thanks for all the advise given on this website. Trust me, you do not need prozac. Depression is a serious subject matter and jokingly telling you that you need a antidepressant for a anxiety disorder is not funny.

Are you trying to say Juni711 has anxiety disorder.....dude...i think you need Paxil for sure....if not for anxiety then for panic disorder for sure.......where in the world you decided by reading that Juni711 has anxiety disorder......now that is funny...i can't stop laughing......may be i need Lorazepam...to relax my self....or good weed will do.... .. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Siddman

Why don't you take your negative energy elsewhere! Yeah, I might need some prozac everytime I see yo mama everynight. Chill with your "You need..." You guys are coming to our forum talking crap, so what do you expect? I used some restraint before, and got sick and tired of Wolfgang and Now siddman's pathetic attempts to undermine the school.

Wolfgang, I tried to be nice, and if you interpreted otherwise, that is your problem. What are your intentions if you continue to post on SMU's forum constantly talking trash? Any person in their right mind would see through your shallow, psuedo-altruistic posts. With this I end my input to this silly dispute.

Juni

[Junito]

For those of you seriously interested in finding out the difference b/w SMU and St. E, send me a PM either with questions, or an email, and I'll pass it on to a person who is qualified to make that comparison. There is a third semester student here in SMU who transfered from St. E. We shared stories about our experiences with the Caribbean (mine was for Dominica). My friend still thinks St. Eustatius is worse!! I don't know, Dominica was pretty bad.

Juni

[Mehrdad1]

DocShopping said it best in his last post. I have a freind who was done with basic sciences at Statia a while ago, and he is still studying for Step 1 because he doesn't "feel quite ready." In fact he just spent a lot of money on a hardcore review course in hopes that it will help him. As for Juni's friend saying that Statia is worse than Dominica, it isn't. However, it is pretty barren and desolate, but you don't have any crime to deal with (unlike Dominica).

[Siddman]

Why don't you take your negative energy elsewhere! Yeah, I might need some prozac everytime I see yo mama everynight. Chill with your "You need..." Juni

Ok juni711.....try to respect other's mama because from what i can see from your post that you certainly does not respect you own mama....and go chill out with own mama.....who knows you might be doing soo right now....and take some viagra or cialis with it...you will need it...... :lol: :lol:

Siddman

[SMU_Information]

Ok, posters from ALL schools please take a step back and try to realize what you are posting.

The SMU forum being the home of the first "Yo Mama" dialogue on VMD is not a distinction I would be particularly proud of. I have been very impressed in recent months with the number of current students that have joined to add their voices and experiences to those curious about SMU. I have also noted your posts when you could help out with general questions on a variety of other boards. I completely understand that some things posted here can make you see red (myself included), but an overreaction is exactly what they are fishing for. I would hope that you men & women of SMU would take the high road in these situations. If someone from another school makes what you feel is an unwarranted comment , by all means post your rebuttal, but let's keep it adult.

As has been stated time and time again, these "my school is better than your school" posts inevitably degrade into this kind of flame war. Each school has its plusses and minuses, the important thing is to find the right school for you individually. For many, but by no means all, that is SMU.

As Dr. Thornton says, being a doctor someday means acting professional today.

[Siddman]

Ok, posters from ALL schools please take a step back and try to realize what you are posting.

The SMU forum being the home of the first "Yo Mama" dialogue on VMD is not a distinction I would be particularly proud of. I have been very impressed in recent months with the number of current students that have joined to add their voices and experiences to those curious about SMU. I have also noted your posts when you could help out with general questions on a variety of other boards. I completely understand that some things posted here can make you see red (myself included), but an overreaction is exactly what they are fishing for. I would hope that you men & women of SMU would take the high road in these situations. If someone from another school makes what you feel is an unwarranted comment , by all means post your rebuttal, but let's keep it adult.

As has been stated time and time again, these "my school is better than your school" posts inevitably degrade into this kind of flame war. Each school has its plusses and minuses, the important thing is to find the right school for you individually. For many, but by no means all, that is SMU.

As Dr. Thornton says, being a doctor someday means acting professional today.

Thank you SMU_Information, you said it all.....i am just here to help out rather then cause problems or go against a school i myself think SMU is a good school and my good friend is going to attend it....from this post i end my dispute against juni711....who has no sence of respect.....

Peace....


Siddman

[acetre]

This topic has no substance whatsoever. The bottom line is this, and it goes all the way back to answer the original post. SMU is the school of choice and better judgement if statia is the only other option :!: Never in my time here at SMU have I ever heard of anyone from SMU transferring to Statia. It has always been the other way around. I can back that up because some of them(transfers from) are sitting in some of my same classes. There is something to be had from my post, and the moral is this, "Choose the right school the 1st time, so that you won't have to worry about the hassle of transferring to SMU or another school, like the other Statia students." For the statia supporters reading this post who don't like what's being stated, I believe there is a forum with your school's name on it where you all need to go so that you can explain to the prospective students of your school the reason why they transfer to SMU in the first place. So....with that being said...RUN ALONG :!:

acetre

[wolfvgang22]

A couple of posters here are so paranoid! They attempt to psychoanalyse and debunk people who don't even really disagree with them in the first place. God forbid anyone to be skeptical or have a critical eye for the issues that matter, like step 1 pass rates.
I think if I were to choose between SMU and St. Eustatius, I'd choose SMU...at least I did think that...if this is the prevailing attitude at SMU, I dunno.
Good luck

[Surge]

I'm the OP who started this thread. I wanted to get honest opinions and information about the 2 schools since I will likely be attending one of them. Unfortunatley it seems the thread has spun into personal insults. I would still appreciate advice on the schools. Please PM me if you think adding to the thread will only fuel more unhelpful arguments.

Specifically I am worried about SMU's recent troubles with CA and being put on that infamous unapproved list. I fear that I will have problems getting a residency and future licensing if my medical school is on a list with some real shady schools. In no way do I think SMU should be on that list and I hope it gets taken off soon. But there is no way of knowing if it will still be on that list by the time I apply for residency.

Secondly, some of you are saying Sint Eustatius is not NY approved but I've heard that a graduate of Sint Eustatius can still get a residency in NY. Can somebody please clear this up.

Thanks again for the help and I hope we can keep it clean.

[Siddman]

A couple of posters here are so paranoid! They attempt to psychoanalyse and debunk people who don't even really disagree with them in the first place. God forbid anyone to be skeptical or have a critical eye for the issues that matter, like step 1 pass rates.
I think if I were to choose between SMU and St. Eustatius, I'd choose SMU...at least I did think that...if this is the prevailing attitude at SMU, I dunno.
Good luck


I totally agree.....


Siddman

[mlfone]

Just out curiosity, how soon can SMU have the Californians back out for a new survey? Being a Californian, I read the panel's report to the state. It looks to me like the noted deficiencies were things that could be addressed in fairly short order.

I think I read on the general forum that only schools who were putting students into residency prior to 1993 were eligible for the Stafford Loan program. I don't know what the exact date was but, if it is true, then all of the newcomer schools are in the same boat regardless of excellence or odiousness.

From all appearances, SMU is doing things the right way. In light of this, I believe that CA approval is a case of "when" not "if".

Somewhere, a bored U.S. med school student is laughing his can off over our arguments for or against whatever particular carib schools we like.

oh yes...yo mama :lol:

mlfone

[wolfvgang22]

From all appearances, SMU is doing things the right way. In light of this, I believe that CA approval is a case of "when" not "if".

Somewhere, a bored U.S. med school student is laughing his can off over our arguments for or against whatever particular carib schools we like.

oh yes...yo mama :lol:

mlfone
I absolutely agree! I think SMU is a fine school to attend if you are not interested in CA or a few other "toughie" states. Hasn't it been around about the same amount of time as St. Eustatius, but has NY approval whereas St. E does not? So objectively, SMU offers a wider range of clinical rotation and residency opportunities. I haven't compared the price to see which is the best bang for the buck, or which has the better USMLE pass rate for first time test takers. Those should be valid questions, also, when shoppping for a school.