where can i practice

[myturn]

sorry to bother all with this boring question but which states can i practice in the us

[T]

You can practice in all states except California and Kansas. Texas is also very hard to practice in as well. have a good day

[bts4202]

New mexico is also out, they use the Cali approval list.

[Junito]

New mexico is also out, they use the Cali approval list.

But they do have reciprocity (hope I spelled it correctly). In other words if you are licensed in another state, they will accept your credentials (after you apply of course).

Juni

[myturn]

im from cali. altough i wouldnt mind practing anywhere in the states but does that mean i will never ever be able to practice in cali. thanks for the reply

[SMU_Information]

I have posted repeatedly on NM. They will automatically accept your education if you went to a CA-approved school. They can however consider you individually if not, and you can transfer in a license after three years of practice in another state.

[myturn]

I have posted repeatedly on NM. They will automatically accept your education if you went to a CA-approved school. They can however consider you individually if not, and you can transfer in a license after three years of practice in another state.

interesting, i wish to know more details about this individually consideration thing or this three year deal. anything will help, thanks

[SMU_Information]

http://www.state.nm.us/nmbme/pdffiles/statewideMDapplicationNov04.pdf

It's under sections II and III on the secodn page.

[mo5225md]

hey jp...someone sent me this...i wanted to know if it was true. They said you can get lawyers to do this in CA:
"In the Commerce Clause of the US Constitution, it says that no priveledge can be withheld in one state that is allowed in another (paraphrased). Typically, Cali can claim that licensing you poses an undue risk to the community and therefore avoid having to comply with that portion of the commerce clause. "

[SMU_Information]

I don't know anything about that, but I can say that individuals have not met with great success in going the judicial route.

Again, we are exploring every option to gain access to CA for SMU.

[myturn]

http://www.state.nm.us/nmbme/pdffiles/statewideMDapplicationNov04.pdf

It's under sections II and III on the secodn page.

kool stuff. so from my understanding, if an individual fulfill all the requirements listed on section III then she/he is qualifed for licensure?

so is smu's recognized by ecfmg

[ASIANDOC]

I can share personal search,California no is no,no arguments.
New Mexico no but if you have 3 yrs residency,BC,no malpractice,ok
Indiana no but rarley they give waiver based on outstanding records
Vermont recently got its list[I think they follow CA]
KS NO no argument[15 yrs med school existance law]
CO very difficult to all carribeans
TN now they wanted med school equivalent to US standards
TX no ,school can't be disapproved in any state,and US equivalent


then
7 states outcome will be avilable by the end of the yrs: these states NC,OK,CT,KY,[I forgot the other 3], probably they will say the school must be in good standing in all states[that's my opinion.



Just sharing personal research,check with current state laws yourself to verify/updates.
good luck

[MartyJannety]

So in other words, there will be 12 states that SMU students can't practice in just because of California. This is getting ridiculous

[studentMD]

http://www.state.nm.us/nmbme/pdffiles/statewideMDapplicationNov04.pdf

It's under sections II and III on the secodn page.

kool stuff. so from my understanding, if an individual fulfill all the requirements listed on section III then she/he is qualifed for licensure?

so is smu's recognized by ecfmg

this applies to New Mexico only not to California, i think your question was in regards to cali?
This still means that at this time you will not be able to practice in california ever...

[ASIANDOC]

The only possible way for things to change is all of us writes to Dr Thompson the CEO of the FSMB expressing concerns about being targeted yet all the other 1600 med schools overseas protected in different laws,also prove the constitutionality of asking to be equivalent to US schools yet no other private schools asked to do the same,Oklahoma supreme court judges already stated opinion in this[all of the judges].

[MartyJannety]

The students shouldn't have to do that it should be the administration. I just really hope their relationship with california hasn't been botched to a point of no return

[SMU_Information]

http://www.state.nm.us/nmbme/pdffiles/statewideMDapplicationNov04.pdf

It's under sections II and III on the secodn page.

kool stuff. so from my understanding, if an individual fulfill all the requirements listed on section III then she/he is qualifed for licensure?

so is smu's recognized by ecfmg

Yes, SMU grads register through the ECFMG.

Also, some points:

As far as determining U.S. School equivalency, the NCFMEA has stated that our accreditation standards are comparable to the U.S.

Texas says equivalent to a Texas school. Also, there is a proviso that says that the disapproval rule doesn't apply if it can be shown that the disapproval was unfounded (we of course believe it was not).

I can't find anything here about CA, it just seems to say ECFMG for Vermont:

http://www.healthyvermonters.info/bmp/legal/chapter23.htm

[ASIANDOC]

States don't really care much to hear from foreign schools but as a citizen with rights and freedom of speech they listen ,UAG students and alumni were banned long time ago but with all parents and alumni protesting unfairness they were reinstated,the people in Ukrania forced the change,that's called democracy When the CNN painted bad image about the carribean medical schools its all of us who must respond before anyone else and say why us not the 1600 other international med schools importing more doctors to USA whom by US own statistics committ more malpractice than the offshore grads[listed in the CT article stats]?

[ASIANDOC]

Regarding vermont SMU might be ok,I called about my school in DR they say its not ,I assumed they are using CA list but I might be wrong,call and ask is the easiest way for fast answer,the reason I assumed they use CA list because they said Ross,AUC,and SGU approved.

[MartyJannety]

As a future smu student, it would be nice to see more than a hand full of smu students participating on this forum that care about the cali issue. Its makign me quite paranoid. I personally don't see what is stopping just about every state from adopting cali rules or adopting rules saying a school has to be in good standing with every state for liscensure

[studentMD]

As a future smu student, it would be nice to see more than a hand full of smu students participating on this forum that care about the cali issue. Its makign me quite paranoid. I personally don't see what is stopping just about every state from adopting cali rules or adopting rules saying a school has to be in good standing with every state for liscensure


it would be nice for all students from all schools to participate..
problem is.. once prospective students get to the island and are buried under the enormous amount of material that needs to be covered in a short period of time (basic sciences) ppl end up finding very lil time to contribute because they have understandably more important things to worry about...

and then once students move on to clinicals.. well they get all wrapped up in that..

and then residency takes over..

u will see.. more times than not.. students that post here and ask questions as prospectives, their number of posts per day drops significantly once they start school...

and then of course.. theres a SIGNIFICANT number of students that don't even know the VMD forum exists..

not true for all ppl... but majority yes..

[T]

So can a person who wants to practice in Tennessee eventually practice in Tennessee.

[rifster]

Hi all,

This california issue is getting alot. I just wanted to know will this affect NY status at all? And what can and can't we do as SMU students in NY?

Thanks a bunch
rifster

[hyloran]

Hi all,

This california issue is getting alot. I just wanted to know will this affect NY status at all? And what can and can't we do as SMU students in NY?

Thanks a bunch
rifster

California is in well, California. New york is all the way on the other side my friend. As long as NY isn't invaded by CA, you can do anything u want in NY as an SMU student.

[shockandawe]

This still means that at this time you will not be able to practice in california ever...

If you are a "current" SMU, St. Chris, St. James, Spartan,... or any other "unapproved school" student, you will NEVER EVER be able to practice in CA, even if in a couple of years, things work out and SMU reapplies and they are granted CA approval, you will still not be able to practice in CA, because you are at SMU at a time when they are unapproved by the CA state boards.

If are an SMU student and absolutely must practice in CA because of personal reasons, you cannot just transfer out because CA will not honor your SMU credits and the only way for you to ever have a chance to ever practice in CA will be to drop out of SMU and start over again at a CA approved school such as Saba or sgu or Ross or AUC or Saddam University in Bagdad or the University of Siberia or the University of Ethiopia... They have their list of approved schools. -s&a

[rifster]

thanks hyloran,

when i was asking for NY, i just wanted to know whether we can do all our rotations there or not...

thanks anyway
rifster

[hyloran]

thanks hyloran,

when i was asking for NY, i just wanted to know whether we can do all our rotations there or not...

thanks anyway
rifster

Yes you can. Now whether or not you can FIND all ur rotations in NY is another matter.

HL

[charlottenian]

This still means that at this time you will not be able to practice in california ever...

If you are a "current" SMU, St. Chris, St. James, Spartan,... or any other "unapproved school" student, you will NEVER EVER be able to practice in CA, even if in a couple of years, things work out and SMU reapplies and they are granted CA approval, you will still not be able to practice in CA, because you are at SMU at a time when they are unapproved by the CA state boards.

If are an SMU student and absolutely must practice in CA because of personal reasons, you cannot just transfer out because CA will not honor your SMU credits and the only way for you to ever have a chance to ever practice in CA will be to drop out of SMU and start over again at a CA approved school such as Saba or sgu or Ross or AUC or Saddam University in Bagdad or the University of Siberia or the University of Ethiopia... They have their list of approved schools. -s&a

The fact that the Sadam Hussein school is ok along with schools in eithiopia are ok but a school like SMU which is making strides is not is ridiculous.

[LqdPls]

Oh but quite a few schools in Iraq are recognized by the sate of California:

University of Baghdad College of Medicine

University of Mosul College of Medicine

University of Basra College of Medicine

University of Al-Mustansiriyah Kufa College

University of Al-Mustansiriyah College of Medicine

University of Salahadin, Salahadin Medical School

Saddam University Saddam College of Medicine


Including 2 schools in good old Afghanistan:

University of Kabul Faculty of Medicine

State Medical Institute of Nangarhar Faculty of Medicine

I'm sure that between the occasional public hanging and backyard stoning, medical education was just thriving

[Bob2k]

It's not true that SMU students or students of other disapproved schools can never practice in Cali.....you can if you obtain a license in another state first.

[gebbils]

Oh but quite a few schools in Iraq are recognized by the sate of California:

University of Baghdad College of Medicine

University of Mosul College of Medicine

University of Basra College of Medicine

University of Al-Mustansiriyah Kufa College

University of Al-Mustansiriyah College of Medicine

University of Salahadin, Salahadin Medical School

Saddam University Saddam College of Medicine


Including 2 schools in good old Afghanistan:

University of Kabul Faculty of Medicine

State Medical Institute of Nangarhar Faculty of Medicine

I'm sure that between the occasional public hanging and backyard stoning, medical education was just thriving

Are those schools even there now? Come on, if Cali loses all these schools from their list of the approved, maybe there would be a spot for us (SMU) :lol:

[hyloran]

It's not true that SMU students or students of other disapproved schools can never practice in Cali.....you can if you obtain a license in another state first.

You need to do some serious research my friend. California has disapproved SMU; it doesn't matter you get a license in every one of the other 49 states; you will NEVER be able to work in CA. Med School is an investment; it's wise to be smart about it.