which med. school in hungary or europe Cali approved and mor

[dr2004usa]

Besides, Charles , I noticed 2 california approved schools in Hungary :

They present the same web site:

University of Pecs

http://www.aok.pte.hu/englishprogram/

Semmelweis University of Medical Science

http://www.aok.pte.hu/englishprogram/

are they the same school???

also there is this other school...

http://www.szote.u-szeged.hu/

Which one would be a better choice for a transfer student seeking to get federal loans?? thanks a lot..

[dr2004usa]

Please just take a sec. o talk about whichever school you attend in europe.... and what about going to a russian school.. Will I be ok to practice in CA ? I appretiate the help of anyone who will put here a brief experience of how it is like to be in any school out there...thks again.

[m4ttjabz]

The only English language programs approved in Hungary are Semmelweiss and Szegad. Szegad used to have another name, Albert Szent Gyorgi or something like that, that's why it appears there are three. The website links you have must be wrong. As far as practicing in CA coming from Russia, good luck, none of the English language programs are approved. You may notice that there is a post on this board regarding whether the English language program and the Russian ones at certain schools are independent of each other, but ultimately that's up to the CA board to decide and it's anyone's guess. I wouldn't attend a school in Russia on someone else's speculation on whether you'll be elgibile for CA licensure.

-Matt

[cristagali]

If your considering Hungary, you should visit schools and ask questions. I think that Simmelweis and Szeged are Cali approved. However, I heard that Szeged is having trouble with the Stafford Loan program. It's just a rumor, so please verify with them. So make sure you ask lots of questions. I gave a tour last week for a student (DOTE) who was gung-ho Hungary, then found out we're all 6 years programs!!! He actually didn't ask before he came. He was absolutely shocked..he thought we were 4 years. so be sure to ask lots of questions. Good luck. 8)

[Miklos]

Besides, Charles , I noticed 2 california approved schools in Hungary :

They present the same web site:

University of Pecs

http://www.aok.pte.hu/englishprogram/

Semmelweis University of Medical Science

http://www.aok.pte.hu/englishprogram/

are they the same school???

also there is this other school...

http://www.szote.u-szeged.hu/

Which one would be a better choice for a transfer student seeking to get federal loans?? thanks a lot..

You've got the websites mixed up.

First, the Semmelweis website is at http://www.sote.hu/ Click on the English Language info on the left hand bar for more info.

Second, the Pecs program website is http://www.aok.pte.hu/englishprogram/

Of those two, Semmelweis is approved, as is Szeged. See http://www.medbd.ca.gov/Approved_Schools.htm#H and look for the English program label. As was correctly pointed out, Szent-Gyorgi is the old name for the Szeged program.

Debrecen and Pecs have both applied, but so far no word on whether or when they'll get approval.

Regarding transferring. Unless you are coming from within Hungary, I don't recommend transferring. Years 4 and 5, which are clinical must be completed in Hungary. Unless you speak the language, you are going to have major problems.

Miklos

[gawtti]

the stafford loan problem at szeged is NOT a rumor. this is what brought me to debrecen. i initially started at szeged and then found out 2 weeks into last semester that i couldn't receive any funding. they told me that the DOE was reviewing them because they were incorrectly distributing the stafford loan to unqualified students. my guess is that they were giving students without a undergraduate degree the full $18,500, instead of the $8,500 they suppose to get. any more questions don't hesitate to post on here or pm me. 8)

[Miklos]

the stafford loan problem at szeged is NOT a rumor. this is what brought me to debrecen. i initially started at szeged and then found out 2 weeks into last semester that i couldn't receive any funding. they told me that the DOE was reviewing them because they were incorrectly distributing the stafford loan to unqualified students. my guess is that they were giving students without a undergraduate degree the full $18,500, instead of the $8,500 they suppose to get. any more questions don't hesitate to post on here or pm me. 8)

As far as I know, you do not need an undergrad degree to get the full $18,500. (I know a fair amount of people who do so at more than one school.) The qualification is that you be enrolled in a professional-degree program (for instance M.D.).

I don't know why they are under review by the DOE.

Miklos

[gawtti]

miklos, they've changed the requirement for this. you should check it with your financial administrator. i went through this when i arrived at DOTE. they asked for my undergrad. diploma to be eligible for the full $18500. also, all the american students here straight out of high school are getting only $8500. the DOE recognizes the initial 3 years as undergraduate and the final 3 years are considered to be graduate. therefore, after completion of the first 3 years here. the student would be eligible to receive the full $18500. if there are any school that is giving more than $8500 to students straight out of high school in their first 3 years here should be reported to the DOE. 8)

[Miklos]

miklos, they've changed the requirement for this. you should check it with your financial administrator. i went through this when i arrived at DOTE. they asked for my undergrad. diploma to be eligible for the full $18500. also, all the american students here straight out of high school are getting only $8500. the DOE recognizes the initial 3 years as undergraduate and the final 3 years are considered to be graduate. therefore, after completion of the first 3 years here. the student would be eligible to receive the full $18500. if there are any school that is giving more than $8500 to students straight out of high school in their first 3 years here should be reported to the DOE. 8)

Interesting.

It is not reflected on http://studentaid.ed.gov/students/publications/student_guide/2004_2005/english/types-stafford.htm

[gawtti]

yes, it is quite a different situation here because an MD program is a 6-year undergraduate program. unlike back home where the MD program is a graduate program. the DOE changed the rule this year. the first 3 years that receive $8500. which are considered as undergraduate work by the DOE. and then the full $18500 for the last 3 years. which are considered as graduate work. 8)

[cristagali]

Gawtti is correct. ANY undergrad student (year 1-3)can only recieve $8500 per academic year. A grad student (year 4-6) $18,500. Of course for DOE, these are isolated cases of high school grad Americans going straight to medical school, so I don't find any printed DOE rule about the matter. But DOTE gets audited every year by DOE staff, to ensure compliance, so its official...somewhere. 8)