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scoobz1981
01-18-2005, 06:23 PM
I know that this post kinda doesn't belong here, but I think that it will kinda let you know how Saba prepared me.

I just wrote the USMLE Step 1 TODAY! WOW is all that I can say! I am still speechless.

What to expect for all of you who have no idea what its like. Okay, so in Canada the exams are held at Sylvan Learning Centers (they have a little Prometric sign in the window). So, I pulled in at 8:30 and my exam start time was suppose to be 9:00am. I came in showed em my ID and my orange ECFMG card saying I was suppose to be taking the USMLE. The people were very friendly, and they set the exam up. Then they get you to read over some rules. After that you sign in, and you sit down at your assigned computer and you are off! LOL... It was CRAZY!

On the whole, the exam was very hard. I would say that they went after the very very little details. All in all there was a fair distribution of everything on the test. Mostly Path as expected, but a bunch of biochem, and ethics (Dr. Patient relationship), very little statistics and anatomy. NOT A SINGLE EMBRYO QUESTION!!! LOL... I was sooo happy! All in all, I felt that Kaplan was NOT enough. It gave you the information, but it did not tie together the thoughts that the USMLE wanted you to have. Also, it was not detailed enough for the exam I got. I think the only way to get that is to do many many questions! I did QBank (2000Q's) and I think that on my test, ONLY 2 were from QBANK. However, I read the QBANK answers even for the wrong answers, and some of the wrong answers came up on maybe 10 questions (as correct answers on my test!).

The thing that I found odd was that the test was very very long, normally I could do the QBANK Q's in about 50 min (1 Q per minute) and on the Step 1 I was really taking the 72 seconds. I found that almost every question was at least 5 lines and out of my 350 Questions, maybe 10 were only 2 liners. Maybe 30 questions required scrolling down the screen. What else.... just in general, the stamina thing was not an issue for me, but honestly you do have to build up to it, cause you don't want to miss any questions.

As for SABA, I think they did a fair job with preparation for the USMLE. I will be the first to admit that I didn't pay attention in lecture so I MAY have missed some facts that the professors spouted out. HOWEVER, saying that, I think that there were things on there that we definitely did NOT cover (even though it was maybe only 5-10 questions) and for the most part I think SABA did a great job. Also the Kaplan course helped a lot, but again, you also need to do questions to get a hang of the material. Also the Kaplan questions from QBANk were easier then the ones I got on my exam. The ones from the USMLE CD were easier too! LOL... Umm... People to really pay attention to on Saba are:

Dr. Stewart (Physio)
Dr. Dykstra (Micro/Immuno)
Dr. France (PD)
No idea who the path people are now, but them too!

Also, all in all on the USMLE, there were not many questions where you were like, what is going on, it was more like, I have no idea what the answer is! The wording of some questions was also tricky! Ummm... just in general a very difficult exam. As you have all heard, people have NO IDEA how they did cause you can not judge how many Questions you really got right, so I will have to wait for my score in the mail. I feel okay about it... that is all I will say.

Val

Siddman
01-18-2005, 07:21 PM
Hey, good to hear your experience ...thank you for the post. I have heard that recently they have pooled out the old multiple choices and have updated with new ones to be more harder. Good to hear your experience with USMLE, i wish more students can give an update on their experience. Good Luck,

Siddman

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wolfvgang22
01-18-2005, 10:28 PM
Thanks for your post. Of course it belongs here!

Were Kaplan and QBank all you used? Did you use Goljan any? What books did you find the most useful, if any?

scoobz1981
01-18-2005, 10:54 PM
I used the Goljan audio tapes.... they were GREAT for RENAL and I scored highest on my path tests at SABA on the RENAL section. I would recommend Goljan if you have the time especially during the classes!!! Very usefull and lots of clinical info!

I didn't use any other books. Sorry. LOL... I think in hindsight, there would not be any book that would have helped. I think the only way to prepare anymore for it, is to go through Robbins, and also to look at Physical Diagnosis and Clin Med stuff and do questions! That is all I will say.

Val

ResearchingGuy
01-19-2005, 12:27 PM
Congrats on getting it out of the way and thanks for the info. I'm starting Kaplan on Monday and hope to do as many questions as possible before I take the test.
How much did you use First Aid in your prep? Do you think it was relevant? One person in the class ahead of us said he thought First Aid was right on the money and another person in our class - Kris - felt it wasn't very helpful.

I await your answer with (fish)baited breath.

P.S. What are you doing in the meantime?

hectorTR
01-19-2005, 12:59 PM
great post

scoobz1981
01-19-2005, 02:48 PM
Hey Chip!

Well, I personally thought that the MICRO from Kaplan was dead on. The Pharm from First Aid was dead on. The rest came from out in left field. And in general, I would say that none of the biochem was really enough. It would have been more useful to do the Lippencott probably.


Val
P.S. When did Chris write?

clinmedstud
02-03-2005, 01:39 PM
Kris wrote the day before you did, literally. I got his email, then yours, then felt that I was getting behind. (Of course, I don't intend to take a month off afterwards :)

scoobz1981
02-04-2005, 10:40 AM
It may be more than a month... it all depends on how I am feeling...


Val

scoobz1981
02-15-2005, 04:07 PM
Hello everyone,
Just writing to let you all know that I got my score back from the USMLE. Wow.... I am just shocked.... it came sooo soon. So just to let you all know, I did pass, and I scored 217, 88%. Anyways, this just shows you that you can start at SABA and not even know that Bones are alive, and still pass step 1. Good luck to all. Saba gives you the resources, but you have to take control, and put in the effort. GOOD LUCK AGAIN TO EVERYONE,

Val

TTUmed
02-15-2005, 04:58 PM
Congratulations Val! I get very happy when people post their USMLE experiences and especially their passing scores :-)

wolfvgang22
02-15-2005, 06:07 PM
congratulations! :D

howardhoavan
02-15-2005, 06:14 PM
:dance:

Audio
02-15-2005, 07:45 PM
Good stuff Val!

Could you guys tell me how the grading works for the USMLE? How many questions? All MC i guess. What score makes you a competitive candidate for a decent US residency?

Audio

ResearchingGuy
02-15-2005, 08:53 PM
Congratulations Val!

Great job on Step I.

Enjoy your time off before clinicals.

swinginislanddoc
02-15-2005, 09:45 PM
Congrats Val!

Who are all of these people who are posting suddenly?! hahah I'm confused - sounds like they're from your class...

Wait...I'm always confused.

Oh well. 8)

scoobz1981
02-16-2005, 10:39 AM
The grading on the USMLE is complex. The test has 350 questions, all multiple choice. However, 50 of those, are experimental, and are thrown out... but you obviously have no idea which ones. The exam is written in 7 blocks, each block has 50 questions, and you get 60 minutes MAX for each block of 50 questions. You also get a 1 hour lunch break. So basically you get 8 hours for the exam, and you can take a break at anytime, but it must be after you complete a block (i.e. no taking breaks during those 50 questions)... you have to manage your own time, so as NOT to exceed the 8 hour maximum.

The grading is right now, a 182 is a pass, at 75th percentile. 215 I believe is the US average. Thats all I know.

Val

Audio
02-16-2005, 01:57 PM
75th percentile is a pass? What exactly does that mean...that only 25% of test takers score a pass? It can't be....

scoobz1981
02-16-2005, 02:17 PM
Sorry, I think its actually your percent score. I think that 182 is a 75% on the exam... I think thats how its meant... it isnt explained very well on the sheet that the ECFMG sends you with your score


Val

Patrik Leonard
02-16-2005, 04:55 PM
Sorry, I think its actually your percent score. I think that 182 is a 75% on the exam... I think thats how its meant... it isnt explained very well on the sheet that the ECFMG sends you with your score


Val

Try checking out the info provided on the USMLE's official site:
http://www.usmle.org/bulletin/2005/scoring.htm

It says in there that the 2 digit score (75) is derived FROM the 3 digit score, so that their bare minimum passing 3 digit score, currently 182, gets converted to a 75. So when they change the passing 3 digit score from time to time, they somehow change the formula to make that 3 digit score a 75. I don't think any hard & fast percentages actually come into play. Personally, I don't think any of it makes much sense. I'm not sure who exactly knows how the scoring is peformed, but I kinda think that it's all just the product of some little computer churning away somewhere using some statistics & formulas to come up with some magic number that is the passing score. :)

A couple quotes:

"The two-digit score is derived from the three-digit score. It is used in score reporting because some medical licensing authorities have requirements that include language describing a "passing score of 75." The two-digit score is derived in such a way that a score of 75 always corresponds to the minimum passing score."

"On the examinations containing multiple-choice items, the percentage of correctly answered items required to pass varies from form to form. However, examinees typically must answer 60 to 70 percent of items correctly to achieve a passing score. A statistical procedure ensures that the performance required to pass each test form is equivalent to that needed to pass other forms; this process also places scores from different forms on a common scale."

I think what all of it means is that your test might be harder or easier than the person taking the USMLE sitting right next to you, and some statistical methods of interpretation are used to equalize the two different "forms" aka tests. So between the experimental questions that get thrown out, and the equalization between different people's tests, it's basically impossible to say what percentage you actually need to get on the exam to pass it!!

I don't know, I don't get it, anyone else out there speak legal-ese and can explain it to the rest of us. :D

Audio
02-16-2005, 06:52 PM
Damn, that's scary but I guess all one can do is STUDY!

mdme
02-25-2005, 04:34 PM
Hey Val,
That's awesome. Now you can have a party and finally relax a little. You can splurge and have "two" margaritas! Congrats, I'm soooo happy for you!! DD

swinginislanddoc
02-28-2005, 08:07 PM
I just dropped $685 on this beast.

I guess for that price you had better darn well study your hiney off.

It costs too much to become a doc! ;-)