MY OWN PRIVATE IDAHO LICENSURE?

[bigguy]

Hello,
I've read on the forum that Idaho has no Sabans practicing there. Does anyone know if they are precluded from practicing there? Or is it just that no one has ever been desperate enough to practice there?

Also, it seems that practice is not an option for Carib graduates in Texas and a few other states. One question that I can't seem to find an answer for on the forum is, if you are previously licensed in another state, such as New York or California, can you then apply for licensure in these states by endorsement? Is the problem only initial medical licensure, or are you screwed as a Carib graduate regardless of what other licenses you hold?

Surprisingly, the states that don't seem to want to license Carib grads are the states that most desperately need them. Idaho and Texas are the poster children for underserved communities. Both are large states with huge rural areas that have a great deal of poverty. Growing up in Idaho, I remember that my pediatrician was the only one in town, and he was like 108 years old. I haven't lived there in 18 years, but I know that a lack of doctors is a big issue. My mom, who's an RN, suspected she had a malignant mole, she was unable to find a Derm within 100 miles who was taking new patients who would see her in anything short of 11 weeks. She ended up driving to Boise and going to an emergency room.....and she's was right, it was malignant.

I've decided that if I can't get all of my clinicals in NYC, I'll "pioneer" the Idaho territory (as my great grandparents did) and find clinical affiliations in Boise.

If anyone has any actual knowledge of what the real deal is with licensure in Idaho, I'd appreciate knowing it. If they are prejudiced against Saba students, my old girlfriend's father is an Idaho Senator, and I'm going to have a little chat with him over some beers about rewriting some statutes.

I went on the Idaho licensing board website. Of course, it's a disaster. I tried calling to get some questions answered, but I was told the only way they could provide an answer was if I filled out the pre-application for licensure. I explained that I hadn't even started medical school yet, but that I was just seeking information so that I could make decisions about potential areas of practice. I asked if there was a pubished list of requirements, and the person I spoke to didn't seem to know of one. I'm still waiting for a response to an e-mail I sent, and I have a feeling, I'll be waiting until the end of time for that.

Any insight would be appreciated!
Bigguy

[scoobz1981]

LOL

Okay, since I had a break in my study time I decide to look into this... I made some calls, did the dirty work... nah, I am just kidding... that would take too long... here is what i found in 2 minutes of googling.... WOOHOO GOOGLE!

http://www.bom.state.id.us/licensees/general.html

Okay if you go down to the part that says FOREIGN GRADUATES, you will find that the requirements are clear. IF you hold a licence in ANY state, you can apply for licensure in IDAHO! As for the doing residency in IDAHO, I can't see it being prohibited if they allow FOREIGN GRADS to apply for licensure after residency. This is more of a question you should ask someone from their office though (I know you have, but obviously that person was not capable of answering it, so you need to find someone else who is!).

Val

[wcb22]

not to touch on a sore subject, but if your pediatritian was 108 about 18 years ago, that would make him 126. there will probably be a vacancy soon, real soon. 8)

[bigguy]

Thanks once again Val,
I definitely owe you some drinks if we ever overlap on Saba, or elsewhere. Yeah, that was the site I looked at, and the sentence near the end, "The foregoing responds to commonly asked questions regarding Idaho medical licensure. It does not detail all requirements, regulations and policies" is what had me uneasy. It's what I tried to get clarified over the phone; where I could find a comprehensive list of "requirements, regulations and policies."

Their pre-application states "Not endorsed: Florida, 1969-80; Puerto Rico." If they won't even endorse Puerto Rico, it raises serious questions in my mind as to whether they would consider Saba. I'll nail down a concrete answer and post for future readers.

Knowing my home state of Idaho, they may just be taking pains to get the white kind of doctors in there. It is after all, the seat of the Aryan Nations....as well as home to a multitude of "off the grid" polygamous Mormons, including some of my own cousins. God forbid they'd get some foreign doctors in Idaho, they barely tolerate all the Californicators as it is.

And to answer the second reply post. Yes, Dr. Waltman died many years back, and he is missed by all. He always gave me a sucker and a balloon, seriously, until I was about 17. It was embarrassing. I guess when you're a 108, everyone looks like a toddler to you. When I was 14 he removed an ingrown pubic hair which I was certain was a malignant tumor. I told him I thought I was probably dying. He sliced it open, pulled it out, bandaged me up and said "never worry about dying, always worry about living" and then he handed me a balloon and a sucker. He was a cool old guy, I want to be that kind of doctor.

Thanks once again all,
Bigguy

Ps. The foregoing mention of polygamous Mormons is meant for informational and amusement purposes only; it's not intended as a slam against the LDS church in general. Please don't send a hoard of missionaries on bicycles to my house!

[scoobz1981]

LOL... I read your reply Big Guy 10 minutes ago, and I am still laughing.... Your doc was cool....

As for the licensure thing, from what I recall (this is what I have been told by many other physicians who graduated from US med schools and are licensed): If you get a license in one state, it is easy enough to get a license from another state. The only exception is where a specific state has announced that it WILL NOT take students with a degree from a CERTAIN school. Unlike Michigan, Ohio, and Cali which have these lists online, IDAHO doesn't. SABA is currently NOT on any banned school list for any state that I have seen - feel free to correct me if you have seen one with SABA on it. That surprised me cause St. Georges U and AUC and Ross have been on a few that I have seen!!!!


Val
P.S. Still laughing about your malignant pubic hair... I have a zit in my armpit so I know what you mean... that thing is huge.... LOL.... I like your doctors advice too - I think the other way I have heard that saying go is:

"GET BUSY LIVING, OR GET BUSY DYING" - The Shawshank Redemption

[dr.holbs]

As the only Idaho Mormon who is in the process of going to saba, I thought that your comment was hilarious. There are some odd ones up there. I am pretty sure that we are going to get along very well on the rock. What part of Idaho are you from?

[bigguy]

Dr. Holbs, my Mormon compatriate,

My family lived in Sun Valley (which was awesome), Moscow (where all my idiot White Power cousins are based), Star (the end of the world), Riggins (hell on Earth) and most recently Caldwell (which has locally made national news for all of it's drive by shootings involving Mexican gangs...unusual to find gang activity in a rural town of less than 9000).

Half of my family is Mormon, and the other half is Irish Catholic. Our family reunions are pretty interesting. Half of the group on one side drinking non-caffienated drinks, gossiping about family, schools, marriages, children, and assembling the family tree; the other half falling down drunk, cursing at each other, telling offensive jokes, and singing off key Irish folk songs.

Dr. Holbs, do you plan on doing clinicals in Idaho? I'll be sure to remember to bring the Idaho Spud Bars when I come in September. What about you, can I assume that you lived within 100 miles of Pocatello?

Bigguy

[dr.holbs]

I can't believe that you are from Caldwell. My parents live in Parma currently. I actually grew up in the midwest, but when I was a junior in highschool my family moved to parma to be closer to my grandparents in Boise. I have not decided if I want to practice in Idaho. I am really interested if you find out anything about licensure. See you in September