Chiropractors at AUC?

[handsondoc]

I'm a 5th trimester student at Palmer College of Chiropractic in Davenport, IA. I am actually considering a MD degree from AUC after completion of my DC. Does anyone know of any DC's @ AUC? If so i'd love to hear from them, thanks...

[rdecastro]

I'm a 5th trimester student at Palmer College of Chiropractic in Davenport, IA. I am actually considering a MD degree from AUC after completion of my DC. Does anyone know of any DC's @ AUC? If so i'd love to hear from them, thanks...

Just out of curiosity, why wait?

[handsondoc]

Valid question i suppose. First let me make it perfectly clear that it is not my goal to defend chiropractic on this forum; however, a fair question deserves a fair answer.
My education thus far has been nothing less than excellent. It is my personal belief that chiropractic, if applied correctly, is an extremly effective form of alternative treatment.
It is my ultimate goal to offer both chiropractic and medical care to my patients as I believe simply prescribing medications for the treatment of symptoms is not the answer.

[microphage]

Valid question i suppose. First let me make it perfectly clear that it is not my goal to defend chiropractic on this forum; however, a fair question deserves a fair answer.
My education thus far has been nothing less than excellent. It is my personal belief that chiropractic, if applied correctly, is an extremly effective form of alternative treatment.
It is my ultimate goal to offer both chiropractic and medical care to my patients as I believe simply prescribing medications for the treatment of symptoms is not the answer.

There are a few around at AUC who are licensed chiros. I'll ask to see if they will get in contact with you.

[handsondoc]

That would be Great!

[rdecastro]

Valid question i suppose. First let me make it perfectly clear that it is not my goal to defend chiropractic on this forum; however, a fair question deserves a fair answer.
My education thus far has been nothing less than excellent. It is my personal belief that chiropractic, if applied correctly, is an extremly effective form of alternative treatment.
It is my ultimate goal to offer both chiropractic and medical care to my patients as I believe simply prescribing medications for the treatment of symptoms is not the answer.

And it wasn't my intent to besmirch chiropractic. I occasionally use their services.

[Mehrdad1]

There were a few chiropractors at AUC when I attended, one of them was even an anatomy professor at a chiropractic medical school in the US. They all had one thing in common. They did VERY well at AUC. Most graduated with honors, and the aforementioned professor was the valedictorian of his class. Good luck in all of your endeavors. Take care.

[tRmedic21]

I believe simply prescribing medications for the treatment of symptoms is not the answer.

Well, then going to medical school would be a great way for you to learn that there is much more to it than that. :lol: Just as going to chiro school would be a great way for many physicians to learn more about that field.

Good luck! :wink:

[handsondoc]

I'm sure your right about that. It's funny, at Palmer we are learning how to diagnose hundreds of conditions and I seem to be the only student who is asking the professors how can chiropractic help them? It's like here's a bunch of stuff you can find and refer out, what a bunch of BULL! I want to fix it not send it across the street to you guys. Oh well "if you can''t beat em'..."

[kennethhur]

Valid question i suppose. First let me make it perfectly clear that it is not my goal to defend chiropractic on this forum; however, a fair question deserves a fair answer.
My education thus far has been nothing less than excellent. It is my personal belief that chiropractic, if applied correctly, is an extremly effective form of alternative treatment.
It is my ultimate goal to offer both chiropractic and medical care to my patients as I believe simply prescribing medications for the treatment of symptoms is not the answer.

I am starting 5th semester this january at AUC and was in chiro school for one year. In my opinion, there is no point to wait and try to finish DC degree with a huge sum of loan with little prospect of paying back. AUC does not even take any single credit hours from chiro or podiatry program.

Moreover, I have been told by a friend of mine who is also life graduate in 1970s and been practicing for decades but told me to leave chiro and sooner is better. She still struggls in finiancial term with her small practice in Atlanta.

It is simple math in terms of putting your money and getting back and I did not want to take a risk of a double loan after completing DC and MD. I did maintain 3.5 GPA in chiro so I did pretty well and I belive chiro has some vaild therapeutic effect however I have to tell you that those who stays in chiro from my class all now talk about uncertain future ahead of them as they near to graduate. Quite numer of them still works as receptionist or helper at chiro or other office set up.

having biochem and Anatomy from chiro helped here but thats all.

Best wish

[azskeptic]

I'm sure your right about that. It's funny, at Palmer we are learning how to diagnose hundreds of conditions and I seem to be the only student who is asking the professors how can chiropractic help them? It's like here's a bunch of stuff you can find and refer out, what a bunch of BULL! I want to fix it not send it across the street to you guys. Oh well "if you can''t beat em'..."

Talk to the folks at:

http://chirotalk.proboards3.com/index.cgi

in many ways, it appears to me as an outsider that chiropractic is imploding due to the bad actors in the industry. Indeed some of what DC's do helps but then you have those doing weird things that negates the good in many people's eyes.

azskeptic

[microphage]

Pharmacology was the course that I enjoyed so much here and did not find as difficlut at all. having biochem and Anatomy from chiro helped here but thats all.

Best wish[/color]


Maybe you were the only one that understood the prof
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I look around the entire room and find Ken being the only one laughing at the prof's joke... then I realized something, I am horrible at korenglish.

[MTpromises]

According to your thought of having value to the chiropractic approach, why not shoot for a DO? They are taught similar philosophy in the manipulation of the spinal chord as well as the other.

[levator]

Pharmacology was the course that I enjoyed so much here and did not find as difficlut at all. having biochem and Anatomy from chiro helped here but thats all.

Best wish[/color]


Maybe you were the only one that understood the prof
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I look around the entire room and find Ken being the only one laughing at the prof's joke... then I realized something, I am horrible at korenglish.

thats funny... it would take me a couple of minutes to understand the jokes... and then laugh too late.

[tRmedic21]

I never noticed, but then, I can count on one hand the number of sentences I understood out of his mouth in 4 months of class.... :oops:

[AUCMD2006]

there were four months of class?

[levator]

there were four months of class?

for some of us rrod..... :lol:

[microphage]

there were four months of class?

for some of us rrod..... :lol:

is rrod still in class?

Oh, how did the boards go for yall anyways? any exam experiences anyone like to share?

[djinbh]

Hi Handson,
I am a Chiropractor and I own a large P.T., M.D., D.C. clinic in California.I graduated Chiro school in the 90's, and worked in Italy for 5 years as a Chiro before opening my practice here in L.A. I will be starting Medical school at Saba in about six days(very excited).
Your recent observations are the same ones I struggled with for many years after graduating Chiro school. Additionally, our scope of practice is very limited ,you will see and treat the same conditions over and over.
A Chiropractor is a Chiropractor, nothing more and also nothing less. Your experiences with touching patients, the physical exams skills you will learn, and physical medicine knowledge you will accumulate will be helpful for certain types of Medical practice. If you plan to be a radiologist, I say don't waste your money on Chiro school. Think about what you'd like to be doing 10 years from now, and go from there.
AUC is a very good school and a great choice. Feel free to PM me.

[bookite]

I am a chiropractor and a student at AUC. I graduated from Life West in California and practiced for two years before starting here. I have enjoyed being a Chiropractor and am enjoying my life as a student again. As other posters have stated if you plan on using a mix of Chiropractic and Medicine you might look at the D.O. programs offered in the states. PM me if you have questions.

[azskeptic]

I am a chiropractor and a student at AUC. I graduated from Life West in California and practiced for two years before starting here. I have enjoyed being a Chiropractor and am enjoying my life as a student again. As other posters have stated if you plan on using a mix of Chiropractic and Medicine you might look at the D.O. programs offered in the states. PM me if you have questions.

I'm told the liability issues in terms of insurance make it difficult to practice both fields. But the biggest issue seems to be when you get a medical education and learn evidence based science, you just don't have the motivation to practice chiropractic.

[handsondoc]

Thanks for all your replies. It seems to me that what i'am hearing most is that you guys seem to not be interested in practicing chiropractic at all after you finish your MDs. That is interesting to me as my primary motivation for persuing the MD is to advance my knowledge and add to not replace my chiropractic knowledge. It sounds like many of you do not believe that is possible which makes me face the realization that I may feel the same way eventually.
I am curious as to your feelings on chiropractic, do you feel it is a valid health care profession? I'am sure you did at one point or you would'nt have persued your DCs. Do you think you helped people through chiropractic? I guess my main question to you (DCs) is even though we don't really know why or how chiropractic works in many instances, do you believe it works? If so why would you not want to practice it anymore at all? It is my understanding that MDs can "adjust," will you never adjust your patients again once you obtain your MDs?
Thanks for all your replies, I really value your contributions as DCs in med school.

[djinbh]

Handson,
Although Askeptic has added alot of valuable information to topics on these forums,I don't think that he is a Chiropractor (If you are Aspeptic, I apologize) and frankly sounds more like Acynic.
I am sure you realize that the physiology,biochemistry,and anatomy classes, along with the pathology,and differential diagnosis classes you took in Chiro school were all science evidence based. Having a few M.D/D.C friends I can tell you that there are not any more liability issues with being a chiro/M.D. than their are with any medical speciality. Chiro is very low risk as exemplified by our malpractic insurance premiums( I pay $1600 per year)Billing issues are tricky for those not experienced, especially with medicare, but very reasonable once understood.
My reasons for wanting to become an M.D. include a desire to do more and learn more about helping people. Chiropractic was never a miracle cure to me. We treat people until their sx's are resolved and then off to physical rehab. I have been fortunate to have helped many people with Chiro careover the years both here and abroad.It's extremely rewarding.
I will pm you if you have other questions, as I don't want to start a debate on chiro ect. on the forum.

[azskeptic]

Handson,
Although Askeptic has added alot of valuable information to topics on these forums,I don't think that he is a Chiropractor (If you are Aspeptic, I apologize) and frankly sounds more like Acynic.
I am sure you realize that the physiology,biochemistry,and anatomy classes, along with the pathology,and differential diagnosis classes you took in Chiro school were all science evidence based. Having a few M.D/D.C friends I can tell you that there are not any more liability issues with being a chiro/M.D. than their are with any medical speciality. Chiro is very low risk as exemplified by our malpractic insurance premiums( I pay $1600 per year)Billing issues are tricky for those not experienced, especially with medicare, but very reasonable once understood.
My reasons for wanting to become an M.D. include a desire to do more and learn more about helping people. Chiropractic was never a miracle cure to me. We treat people until their sx's are resolved and then off to physical rehab. I have been fortunate to have helped many people with Chiro careover the years both here and abroad.It's extremely rewarding.
I will pm you if you have other questions, as I don't want to start a debate on chiro ect. on the forum.

you are correct..not a DC but have quite a few friends who are making the transition. They point out the same things you do..wanting a bigger scope of practice but it seems to me that the 'transition' also includes leaving behind some of the baggage of chiropractic i.e. not having to 'market' themselves and the indignities of 'screenings' in shopping malls.
'

[djinbh]

Very true.

[djinbh]

Very true.

[pkimm]

This is a repost from SGU tread,

I am a 3rd term student at chiro school in LA....
I'm contemplating whether I should drop out of my chiro school and head out to SGU.

Any SCUHS/LACC grad in AUG or SGU??

My question is:

Is basic science @ AUC pretty comparable to the basic science from the chiro school. I know education at some chiro schools are dumb down, but SCUHS has very solid science courses...so I would like to hear from people who grad from SCU....thanks a bunch!

If you are not a chiropractor but know of someone, how are they doing in class? I would like to hear a feed back!! Thanks

[Shasta McNasty]

Just posting to say that chiropractors seem to be pretty cool and helpful people.


...does that mean I get a free adjustment?

[microphage]

This is a repost from SGU tread,

I am a 3rd term student at chiro school in LA....
I'm contemplating whether I should drop out of my chiro school and head out to SGU.

Any SCUHS/LACC grad in AUG or SGU??

My question is:

Is basic science @ AUC pretty comparable to the basic science from the chiro school. I know education at some chiro schools are dumb down, but SCUHS has very solid science courses...so I would like to hear from people who grad from SCU....thanks a bunch!

If you are not a chiropractor but know of someone, how are they doing in class? I would like to hear a feed back!! Thanks

most chiros I know aren't ahead by any means when it comes to basic science classes. They might get a jump on anatomy but most else its an entirely different beast.

[MDXRS22]

I turned my back on my admission at NYCC...
I have many classmates there, and they are on their way out to allopathic or osteo...

[bikesinmud]

Hi everyone. I'm also a DC and have practiced in Alberta Canada for 7 years. To say the least it was a great choice in a profession and is still currently a very lucrative career, without ever standing in a shopping mall or wasting money copius amounts of cash on advertising why I'm better than the guy down the street. I'm choosing to attend AUC and then practice both as DC/MD when I finish, but we'll see how long the dual degree lasts. I can't comment on the difficulty of med school and if a DC will have an easier time but I did have 2 MD class mates in chiro school at WSCC that said it was harder than Med school. I look forward to future chit chats in this forum and should see many of you in '07!!

[pkimm]

How come so many DC's choose to go to AUC over any other caribb med school?? Are there any explanations for this?

[microphage]

How come so many DC's choose to go to AUC over any other caribb med school?? Are there any explanations for this?

there are DCs everywhere. AUC people are just more verble about it.

[pkimm]

Is that so!!
That gives me alot of motivations to head out to med school!!

:p

[LouieD]

im a chiropractor currently at AUC...Not a bad idea to want to expand in medicine and be able to treat more conditions. Also the stigma with chiropractic and all the crappy chiropractors out there make it difficult to remain in the profession...But going through the enitre chiropractic program and then medicial school is very tedious and stressful..But overall I think the benefits out weigh the costs...

[pkimm]

im a chiropractor currently at AUC...Not a bad idea to want to expand in medicine and be able to treat more conditions. Also the stigma with chiropractic and all the crappy chiropractors out there make it difficult to remain in the profession...But going through the enitre chiropractic program and then medicial school is very tedious and stressful..But overall I think the benefits out weigh the costs...

I know that it is tedious going through both programs back to back!
But it will be all worth at after your done with it!

My questions:

1. how comparable was chiro education compair to med program
2. why did you choose AUC? I'm planning on SGU
3. What residency are you planning, if any?

[DRJJ1]

I am a chiropractor and a student at AUC. I graduated from Life West in California and practiced for two years before starting here. I have enjoyed being a Chiropractor and am enjoying my life as a student again. As other posters have stated if you plan on using a mix of Chiropractic and Medicine you might look at the D.O. programs offered in the states. PM me if you have questions.

SO HOW MANY IN 2006 MADE IT TO MED FROM CHIRO?

[DrShikima]

there are DCs everywhere. AUC people are just more verble about it.

I'd like to think that the people on the AUC forum were more verbal about topics than sounding like a small rodent.

[swimguy23]

I'd like to think that the people on the AUC forum were more verbal about topics than sounding like a small rodent.


oh snap.....not only did you correct grammar but you did it from a post a year ago


:twisted:

[DrShikima]

oh snap.....not only did you correct grammar but you did it from a post a year ago


:twisted:

All is fair game I believe.... no statutes of limitation!

[DRDRWMD]

oh snap.....not only did you correct grammar but you did it from a post a year ago


:twisted:
And he keeps posting, and posting, and posting. . .

[bookite]

SO HOW MANY IN 2006 MADE IT TO MED FROM CHIRO?

Im still going. Im doing rotations now and should be done in just over a year. pm me if you have questions.