First Semesters please grow up

[AUCMD2006]

Had to start a new thread this is important

after witnessing last nights unprofessional behavior i must say that i hope some of you take the time off this break to and realize that you are in a professional degree curriculum and the days of drunken hazied parties, that probably landed you here to begin with, are to be put behind you.

i can understand wanting to let loose after a semester, beleive me, but last nights activities were an embarassment to your class. a group of you after the sunset party decided to check the anatomy grades and started yelling and screaming about a one grade, in one class, in your first semester, at a third tier medical school. the yelling and screaming, walking through the rotunda drinking out of whiskey and vodka bottles, throwing each other around like high school girls in a fight over who's baby's daddy it is was disappointing.

yes we are in the caribbean but this is still a professional school and it is because we are considered inferior to US students that we need to do it better and cleaner than them! what makes it truly disappointing is that i have gotten to know a few of you and some of the same people that act like animals, with connections at big time hospitals back home by the way :lol: , after a few drinks are quite intelligent and pleasant while sober.

heres a little reality check: great so you passed first semester.hooray for you on the two classes that you managed to do pass.......hate to break it to you but it isn't the pinnacle of achievement at this school so get a grip enjoy yourselves and learn to respect your classmates. the fourth semesters had exams today and tomorrow and the yelling apparently was enough to be heard by people with headphones.

again passing the two classes in first semester is a good accomplishment but it isn't that big of a deal in context. at least you still have over 60 exams in more than 14 classes, eight sepparate shelf exams, and a kaplan simulated exam that may provide you with adequate time to grow up.

peace

[Baditude]

I just want to say as first semester student who was not involved with the disgusting behavior Monday night there are some who do need to grow up and act more mature but it was not the entire first semester class acting like fools and disgracing themselves. Those of us who were not participating in the immature behavior would most likely not like being grouped with those who were.

Rant off (I am tired from flying all day)

[AUCMD2006]

when stuff like this happens its the entire class that suffers. everyone knows not the whole class was involved but trust me this is coming from the "cheater class". we had a few people using a review sheet for micro, supposedly it was a previous semesters post test review that someone scribed so it wasn't test answers, and we had two people 'suspended' for a term for cheating and my class was labeled.

then there are just labels like the new 5th semester class being whinners :lol:

[hb]

If next semester doesn't teach some fellow first semester (2nd semester now :D )class members some maturity then, well...
Lets just say for anyone that thinks benchmarks is a lot for a semester just wait till you see the notes just for Histo... and 3 other classes on top of that.

Next semester is going to be so much fun :twisted:

BTW, happy holidays to everyone and good luck to everyone on their last finals of the semester and to the 5th's on their upcomming Step 1.

[Scott1981]

im sorry to break the news to the 1st semester students. the 2nd semester is MUCH harder then the first semester.

those few 1st termers that were celebrating too hard better fess up. if you passed your classes first term, great.
but it aint over and to celebrate that hard and borderline juvenile is empty because you got hell waitng right around the corner in histo/physio/immuno/genetics. thats a four headed monster that your up against insted of a 2 headed monster.

save the hardcore celebrating for the last day on the island. you will need all the brain cells that you can save while here.

[beach bum]

Bottles of Whiskey and vodka in the rotunda? I mean really! Think People…

These 1st semester characters obviously have NO IDEA of what is appropriate at AUC. Getting drunk in the school lobby CLEARLY calls for “Goldschlager”…

BB

PS- My last exam is today and in keeping with this new tradition of post-test chaos- I’m looking for “extras” for the “snuff film” I’m going make tonight after breaking into the Dean’s office. I still need a “pizza delivery man” with an eastern European orgin accent, a busty red-head who owns her own Nun’s costume, and 2-3 people to help bury the body. See you at 9:15.

[kennethhur]

Had to start a new thread this is important

after witnessing last nights unprofessional behavior i must say that i hope some of you take the time off this break to and realize that you are in a professional degree curriculum and the days of drunken hazied parties, that probably landed you here to begin with, are to be put behind you.

i can understand wanting to let loose after a semester, beleive me, but last nights activities were an embarassment to your class. a group of you after the sunset party decided to check the anatomy grades and started yelling and screaming about a one grade, in one class, in your first semester, at a third tier medical school. the yelling and screaming, walking through the rotunda drinking out of whiskey and vodka bottles, throwing each other around like high school girls in a fight over who's baby's daddy it is was disappointing.




yes we are in the caribbean but this is still a professional school and it is because we are considered inferior to US students that we need to do it better and cleaner than them! what makes it truly disappointing is that i have gotten to know a few of you and some of the same people that act like animals, with connections at big time hospitals back home by the way :lol: , after a few drinks are quite intelligent and pleasant while sober.

heres a little reality check: great so you passed first semester.hooray for you on the two classes that you managed to do pass.......hate to break it to you but it isn't the pinnacle of achievement at this school so get a grip enjoy yourselves and learn to respect your classmates. the fourth semesters had exams today and tomorrow and the yelling apparently was enough to be heard by people with headphones.

again passing the two classes in first semester is a good accomplishment but it isn't that big of a deal in context. at least you still have over 60 exams in more than 14 classes, eight sepparate shelf exams, and a <a target=new href=http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=c97WUMRO5hY&offerid=47491.10002441&type=3 &subid=0 >Kaplan</a><IMG border=0 width=1 height=1 src=http://ad.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/show?id=c97WUMRO5hY&bids=47491.10002441&type=3&sub id=0 > simulated exam that may provide you with adequate time to grow up.

peace


Yes. I can attest to that it was very annoying and disappointing as I was studying for pharm final in histo. First semeseter is only transitional time to get you used of med school. Even second is also a gate way semester as Professor G said in histo class. He said that despite huge amunt of work in his course, it is a gateway to upper semester courses, which is true after gone over 3rh and 4th semester myself.

Also I wish to bring up the another annoying fact that some guys from 2dn semeseter and first acts very irritable and noisy in histo study area. Histo lab has always been our "beloved" quite study area and some of them just keep walking and talknig, sighning, and just sociallizing for good 2 hours or so inside and in immediately outside of histo lab and not to mention talking to cell phone right outside histo lab so loudly that the noise is bothersome for hours.

Fine. Talking to friends during and between study is encouranged to do so as I do too. But it should not interfere others who are doing intense study for exams in 12 hours or so..

Excericie good judgement , integrity, and professionalism all the time if you are really meant to be serious about being a MD.

have good breaks all.


Ken

[AUCMD2006]

appreciate your thoughts but i didn't want to start an all out complaint on everything that is inconsiderate here then we'd have to posta bout smoking on campus, etc.

the 'official' study desigantions are supposed to be:

library: no talking quiet study area
histo lab and fifth floor: quiet study area, although it doesn't specify that no talking its good to keep it to a short conversation and a whisper in consideration of your classmates

cafeteria: group study, talking etc.

i think we get so insulated in our own little world that we forget other students have differing schedules. as a RA i put a sign up reminding people of the test schedules and never had a problem.

dang i can't hit 1500....gotta keep posting

[Skipper]

i am really shocked that some people behaved as such....i guess this is going to be a common behavior due to the types of students we have in 1 semster......hopefully a few bit the dust next semster......

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

the skipper

[options]

That is too bad that my classmates were so inconsiderate of those studying in the histo lab. I am one that needs silence in order to really get into my studies, and I know that even loud talking outside of the doors to histo lab can be very distracting.

On the other hand...

All of this talk about how HARD it get when you get into 2nd, 3rd.. 4th semesters really upsets me. When I entered AUC last august, I found myself bombarded by, " Its going to be unbelievably hard", "the storm's coming".. I realize that maybe it is a service to the lower semesters to have fair warning that the class load is heavy, but after awhile it just becomes discouraging.

Because of all this negative commentary, during my first 3 weeks at AUC I found myself extremely stressed, even to the point of doubting my abilities as a student and wondering if I could even make it here. Since then, I've honored every test so far here at AUC. I'm not interested in impressing anyone by telling you this. I just want to make a point that telling us that the load is crazy hard, doesn't motivate any of these slackers that don't really care anyways, but only discourages people who are trully concerned with their performance.

I understand that it's going to get harder and I will continue to try my best. Now that I am in second semester, I'm going to try and offer my help to the new 1st semesters rather than gloat about how hard it will be for them and how I've already passed that stage.

[levator]

That is too bad that my classmates were so inconsiderate of those studying in the histo lab. I am one that needs silence in order to really get into my studies, and I know that even loud talking outside of the doors to histo lab can be very distracting.

On the other hand...

All of this talk about how HARD it get when you get into 2nd, 3rd.. 4th semesters really upsets me. When I entered AUC last august, I found myself bombarded by, " Its going to be unbelievably hard", "the storm's coming".. I realize that maybe it is a service to the lower semesters to have fair warning that the class load is heavy, but after awhile it just becomes discouraging.

Because of all this negative commentary, during my first 3 weeks at AUC I found myself extremely stressed, even to the point of doubting my abilities as a student and wondering if I could even make it here. Since then, I've honored every test so far here at AUC. I'm not interested in impressing anyone by telling you this. I just want to make a point that telling us that the load is crazy hard, doesn't motivate any of these slackers that don't really care anyways, but only discourages people who are trully concerned with their performance.

I understand that it's going to get harder and I will continue to try my best. Now that I am in second semester, I'm going to try and offer my help to the new 1st semesters rather than gloat about how hard it will be for them and how I've already passed that stage.

i understand that some of the upper classmen warnings cause some panic some time but its better that you have a heads up. some people like options adapted to their new environment and mastered the classes... others failed miserably. as far as the unprofessional behavior... this semester was the worst ever in the dorms as far as complaints... too much inconsideration for other students... maybe some of the people that caused probs this semester will get a little taste next semester when they are trying to study for their 2nd semester exams. the administration has been made aware of all the problems and people so next semester it should be taken care off. some people in the first semester class needed to realize that they are not in college anymore. anyways... the hard lessons will come for most.

later,

[anencephalic]

Oh well...some of them say med school is easy. That's great. We'll see how easy it is for some of these"future professionals" 3 weeks into next semester with four real classes (Physio, Histo, Genetics, and Immuno...er, Micro I) to stratify their class even further.

But hey, don't take my word for it.

As for the behavior that was exhibited by a minority of the soon-to-be second sem's class...ugh.

ALoha,

[Scott1981]

personally, i didnt find the classes in second semester hard. nor did i find the first semester classes hard. im probably not gonna find the 3rd semester hard either when i start it in january.

BUT as far as being uncomfortable and stressed from the load, the 2nd semester took the cake and i think 3rd will be just like 2nd. lets be honest here, there were really only 2 main courses in first semester.

options----

i think you will be fine, but you will just be a little more uncomfortable. you may honor all the classes again. there will be a little more stress when studying because there are now 4 main classes at the same time.

for those that slacked off in 1st semester and barely passed their classes or even failed some........... its only uphill from here. i think you will need to change your study habits bigtime before you start 2nd semester because what it took to barely pass classes in first semester will not work in 2nd. you just have too many classes to juggle around.

good luck to all and have a nice break......... by the way......... im sipping starbucks coffee right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AUCMD2006]

scott's right. the material is not difficult at all, i find it easier than orgo, analytical chemistry, or structural engineering...its the volume that gets you if you don't keep up.

4 classes is a lot different than two so like he said anyone that thinks cramming is a good strategy may still pass the classes but like a 5th semester told me when i got here "you aren't studying for these silly classes, you are studying for step one" with that in mind cramming may get you to pass a class but there is no long term retention...

[kennethhur]

That is too bad that my classmates were so inconsiderate of those studying in the histo lab. I am one that needs silence in order to really get into my studies, and I know that even loud talking outside of the doors to histo lab can be very distracting.

On the other hand...

All of this talk about how HARD it get when you get into 2nd, 3rd.. 4th semesters really upsets me. When I entered AUC last august, I found myself bombarded by, " Its going to be unbelievably hard", "the storm's coming".. I realize that maybe it is a service to the lower semesters to have fair warning that the class load is heavy, but after awhile it just becomes discouraging.

Because of all this negative commentary, during my first 3 weeks at AUC I found myself extremely stressed, even to the point of doubting my abilities as a student and wondering if I could even make it here. Since then, I've honored every test so far here at AUC. I'm not interested in impressing anyone by telling you this. I just want to make a point that telling us that the load is crazy hard, doesn't motivate any of these slackers that don't really care anyways, but only discourages people who are trully concerned with their performance.

I understand that it's going to get harder and I will continue to try my best. Now that I am in second semester, I'm going to try and offer my help to the new 1st semesters rather than gloat about how hard it will be for them and how I've already passed that stage.

no one said that first semester is "unbelievably hard" and no one from here did not help first semesters nor gloat about it. We are all orientation advisors or TAs as myself. My point as well as rrod are simple and direct. Just be more considerate and be prepared for harder challenge ahead of you in next several semesters. It would be better be told worst than does of false sense of comfort and security. Nothing is further from the truth that first semester or so are gateway semester regardless what you have done so far.

Good luck

[JCBaller1]

regardless of whether or not it was some incredible achievement to pass 1st semester or not---there is no excuse to act so unprofessionally (drinking and jumping around the lobby?!!?!?!)--thats just stupid

[JCBaller1]

(sorry---double post)

[stateofequilibrium]

regardless of whether or not it was some incredible achievement to pass 1st semester or not---there is no excuse to act so unprofessionally (drinking and jumping around the lobby?!!?!?!)--thats just stupid

I agree, that's just downright stupid, inconsiderate, immature and stupid. Trying to get Loukas and Speros to the Platinum Room, now that's...

[lady_j]

Don't even get me started on the Plantinum Room...
grr...

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[microphage]

So what do we have for the 1st semesters?

Let's get back to the important things...


As it stands:(not updated to reflect the new semester changes)
5th="The Cheaters"
4th="The Whiners"
3rd="The Kiss Arses"
2nd="losers" (Yeah, you came close but still lost the food drive contest. Nobody else was really in it except for you and the 5ths).
1st="GROW up class? Or just the Immature ones?"

(How I love stereotypes and labeling)

[tRmedic21]

After watching the behavior of some of the 1st semester students in public this last fall, I am appalled and ashamed to be lumped in the same group with them. Remember, I said SOME, not ALL, so those of you who already have your panties in a wad, get over it!

I saw students racing at high speeds through Maho during the busiest times of night, puking in the elevators at the dorms (and leaving it!), leaving their trash outside their doors for someone else to pick up (what, is your mother on-campus now???), and even heard horror stories involving some students engaging in sex acts in full public view, numerous physical altercations with other students, locals, and even the local police!!!!

Sad.... I spent 6 semesters in SXM, and while there were lots of crazy things happen, the last 4 months have truly given students a black eye in the eyes of many of the locals.... and people wonder why we get little respect when we're out and about.... I don't blame them! I hope those few of you in this minority grow up or fail out. Period. If you can't learn to behave in a socially acceptable manner, you should go back to waving your Confederate flags and spitting tobacco juice down the sides of your pickup trucks. :roll:

[kennethhur]

After watching the behavior of some of the 1st semester students in public this last fall, I am appalled and ashamed to be lumped in the same group with them. Remember, I said SOME, not ALL, so those of you who already have your panties in a wad, get over it!

I saw students racing at high speeds through Maho during the busiest times of night, puking in the elevators at the dorms (and leaving it!), leaving their trash outside their doors for someone else to pick up (what, is your mother on-campus now???), and even heard horror stories involving some students engaging in sex acts in full public view, numerous physical altercations with other students, locals, and even the local police!!!!

Sad.... I spent 6 semesters in SXM, and while there were lots of crazy things happen, the last 4 months have truly given students a black eye in the eyes of many of the locals.... and people wonder why we get little respect when we're out and about.... I don't blame them! I hope those few of you in this minority grow up or fail out. Period. If you can't learn to behave in a socially acceptable manner, you should go back to waving your Confederate flags and spitting tobacco juice down the sides of your pickup trucks. :roll:

*****. First of all thanks for returning to this forum. Your opinions are appreciated and I would like to extend my best wish on your recent USMLE step 1 scores.

I did not aware that some of the first semesters behaviors have been detoriorated to that points as you descrived above. these are not acceptable nor respecting our honor codes. As Rich has already pointed out, Some of these people still dont get the idea of that this is not their undergrad dorm anymore but professional school beyond that old college years.

When I return to my 5h semester in january, I will discuss the issue with Jon the SGA president and we will go from there to reverse the situations or at least make some positive steps to recover from damaged reputaions of AUC.

Good luck on your clinical and keep postings! let us know the life with rotations..

Ken

[stateofequilibrium]

Whoa, what is our class doing? I mean, okay.. throwing up is one thing (the stairwell still stunk by the time I left the island), but acting like a bunch of hooligans out in public is damaging not only to themselves but the rest of us. Perhaps you should report those activities to the Dean so they could have a little "talk" about professional behvaior, at least on the bloody campus.

I agree wholeheartedly about the trash outside of their doors. That is just childish, spoiled and stupid behavior. I'm often tempted to pound on the doors that the trash lies outside of, but I doubt the culprits are stupid enough to put the trash right in front of their own doors, or are they?

[anencephalic]

When I return to my 5h semester in january, I will discuss the issue with Jon the SGA president and we will go from there to reverse the situations or at least make some positive steps to recover from damaged reputaions of AUC.


Ken[/color]

Hi Ken,

Unfortunately, we are not these collective students' mothers. Second semester ought to straighten a majority of them out, if not fail a good number of them outright.

Aloha,

[YODA]

After watching the behavior of some of the 1st semester students in public this last fall, I am appalled and ashamed to be lumped in the same group with them. Remember, I said SOME, not ALL, so those of you who already have your panties in a wad, get over it!

I saw students racing at high speeds through Maho during the busiest times of night, puking in the elevators at the dorms (and leaving it!), leaving their trash outside their doors for someone else to pick up (what, is your mother on-campus now???), and even heard horror stories involving some students engaging in sex acts in full public view, numerous physical altercations with other students, locals, and even the local police!!!!

Sad.... I spent 6 semesters in SXM, and while there were lots of crazy things happen, the last 4 months have truly given students a black eye in the eyes of many of the locals.... and people wonder why we get little respect when we're out and about.... I don't blame them! I hope those few of you in this minority grow up or fail out. Period. If you can't learn to behave in a socially acceptable manner, you should go back to waving your Confederate flags and spitting tobacco juice down the sides of your pickup trucks. :roll:

IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, watch the stereotypes. Weather you realized it or not you just made a very strong derogatory statement about the South. Remember that there are a large number of students from the Southern US and I for one don’t like being depicted as an ignorant, poor mannered individual. I am usually a very easygoing person and can take a lot of crap from folks, but I could not let this slide.

I am in no way condoning the actions of the students that prompted this thread but I will not be insulted in such a way that suggested that my heritage is somehow backwards and that poor social skills and these acts are the norm in the South.

I am not looking for an apology from you, just that you consider what you said and you think before you make yourself sound as ignorant as those you are trying to insult.

[tRmedic21]

Since I'm from the South myself, I think I have plenty of experience in the area to draw from, and I really don't care if you like it or not. I didn't ask for your approval or anyone else's. I've got plenty of other stereotypes to throw out in the future, I'm just waiting for the right situation. :)

I've never been politically correct, and I'm darn sure not about to start now! :roll:

[dogcatcorp]

I've got plenty of other stereotypes to throw out in the future, I'm just waiting for the right situation. :)


Do you intend to use your vast plethora of stereotypes on your patients? See if thats the right situation.

[tRmedic21]

What's it to you?

Once again.... way too uptight. People just LOOK for reasons to get upset. Tell ya what.... call your lawyers, folks, because since I've offended you, I'm sure you're due for some cash outta the deal, right?

[Ditch Doctor]

Do you intend to use your vast plethora of stereotypes on your patients? See if thats the right situation.

Hefe, do joo know, whaaat a pleeeethora is? Because, I would not want joo to tell me I had a plethora of gifs, if joo did not know whaaat a pleeeeethora is....

[anencephalic]

Do you intend to use your vast plethora of stereotypes on your patients? See if thats the right situation.

Hefe, do joo know, whaaat a pleeeethora is? Because, I would not want joo to tell me I had a plethora of gifs, if joo did not know whaaat a pleeeeethora is....

Heheh,....would you say that I have a plethora of pinatas? :P

Aloha,

[teratos]

Do you intend to use your vast plethora of stereotypes on your patients? See if thats the right situation.

Hefe, do joo know, whaaat a pleeeethora is? Because, I would not want joo to tell me I had a plethora of gifs, if joo did not know whaaat a pleeeeethora is....

Heheh,....would you say that I have a plethora of pinatas? :P

Aloha,

You have too much free time....

[AUCMD2006]

three amigos anyone?

[stateofequilibrium]

three amigos anyone?

A plethora of amigos.